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retail is just not me but there's no other solutions. advice?

I'm thinking I am in the same boat my friend, I think I might just finish my engineering degree and cut ties with anything healthcare related. I know exactly how you feel.
 
This is what I'm doing:

1. When you're straight out of school, work hard in retail and pick up extra shifts. It's easy money for a new grad with no experience. Also get the company stock and options. They're for-profit companies so you may as well benefit on the capitalist side as well.

2. Use the money to pay off all your debts -- student loans, car, and mortgage. Everything!

3. From this point you can now work for fun, instead of working to pay the bills. Big difference in mentality. So get out of the retail trenches, and go hustle for some other gigs. Even per diem or prn is ok because remember, after you've paid off your mortgage and all your debts you won't need much money to live on. Jobs like:

- hospital
- specialty pharmacy
- long-term care
- remote verification
- mail order
- managed care/PBM
 
Problem with these other gigs is that the trend is to have you have to sign an quota agreement to verify so much per hour. If that's the case then the work environment has likely been gamed by the established pharmacists---in other words, they get the easy work to meet the quota and the new pharmacist scrounges for the single outs and is stuck with the labor intensive orders.
 
I'm thinking I am in the same boat my friend, I think I might just finish my engineering degree and cut ties with anything healthcare related. I know exactly how you feel.

Yea, I'm starting to burn out on retail too, but none of the other options in pharmacy sound appealing at all. Sitting in a cubicle at an insurance company working on prior auths sounds like hell to me, and the same with verifying orders at LTC or in a hospital basement. I can't complain though, I went into pharmacy for the pay and job security and it's provided well for me so far.
 
retail is just not me but there's no other solutions. advice?
med school or programming. but if your like me your IQ is too low to do these so just stick with pharm till you learn to hate yourself
 
med school or programming. but if your like me your IQ is too low to do these so just stick with pharm till you learn to hate yourself

Eventually it becomes a ball of bitterness and resentment...then after 30 years or so...you can say fk it and die.
 
Eventually it becomes a ball of bitterness and resentment...then after 30 years or so...you can say fk it and die.
Omg..30 years in retail, how do people do it?? correction, how do people do same one job for this long???!
 
Omg..30 years in retail, how do people do it?? correction, how do people do same one job for this long???!

Yeah that seems crazy to me. I'm the kind of person that starts looking for the next step every 2-3 years. It's a good way to gain experience in a variety of roles and increase your pay at the same time. I couldn't imagine staying in the same place my entire career, but know people that have done that.
 
Yeah that seems crazy to me. I'm the kind of person that starts looking for the next step every 2-3 years. It's a good way to gain experience in a variety of roles and increase your pay at the same time. I couldn't imagine staying in the same place my entire career, but know people that have done that.

I feel that it's very hard to do these days...especially if one cannot relocate. I am trying to move out of retail too but it's really hard to get your foot in the door in another setting when you don't have experience. You need a job to get experience but you need experience to get the job kinda thing.
 
Omg..30 years in retail, how do people do it?? correction, how do people do same one job for this long???!
Guarantee retail in '86 was not what it is today

People tell me that it really started to decline after the mid 2000s ...

30 years in today's retail is asking for trouble ...
 
retail is just not me but there's no other solutions. advice?

Hard to answer your question without knowing what else you're interested in or what your ideal job would be. Doesn't necessarily have to be in pharmacy, either. Also, while I recognize you're probably exploring all avenues of information, this forum really isn't the best to advise you on a life changing decision. Look to your family and friends. Just my opinion.

Good luck.
 
How hard is it to get into hospital pharmacy after working a decade or more in retail?
 
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