good nonmalignant prelim programs

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AndyDufrane

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Hi, So I am thinking about locations for good balanced non-malignant prelim med programs in the Cleveland, Columbus OH area and also in the Chicago area, as well as Philly, NJ, and NYC, I know the areas are wide but any input would be appreciated😕
 
I was extremely happy with my prelim program at Bassett Hospital in Cooperstown, NY. They have a transitional program, but I did the intern program, which I liked even better.

The inpatient months can be tough, but they are relatively easy by intern standards, and there are only 5 ward months. The other months are 1 month ICU, 1 month ER, and everything else was elective. I spent time in radiology, rheumatology, outpatient orthopedics, and neurology.

The one quirky aspect is that the hospital is in a rural location. Cooperstown is a cosmopolitan town as small towns go, but it's still small. I loved it- it is one of the nicest places I ever lived, but not everyone likes small town life. But if you like living in a small town, then I can't imagine a better intern year.
 
In PA I would recommend Lehigh valley, St Luke's, York Hospital, Abbington, and Reading hospitals. Pretty Cush, great pay in relation to cost of living, and nice ppl.

I think NYC - a lot of my friends liked st. vincent.
 
Winthrop hospital in Mineola, Long Island (just outside NYC) has a good rep as well
 
The Morristown Memorial/Summit Hospital TY is popular with the UMDNJx2 PM+R crowd. Don't confuse this program with the MM prelim medicine program. Rads-anes heavy for the trans year here.

A friend likes Mount Sinai in New York, though I don't think intern life there qualifies for the "breeze" category but neither is it truly malignant. University program.

During a drug rep dinner at a hibachi restaurant sponsored by a leading competitor of Lovenox, a PM+R resident who did an intern year at Cooperstown told me he liked it so much there he gave serious consideration to forsaking his PM+R slot in favor of medicine at Cooperstown.

Have also heard good things about Christiana in Delaware including the fact they have night float for the icu! Is popular with the UPENN med crowd + also with those who match to the NJ PM+R programs. Rad-derm-ophtho-anes heavy for 1 year people. DO friendly.

Also good things about the transitional year in North Dakota, something like 4 months of call and remotely suburban to Chicago.

I have to agree on Reading and Lehigh. They are awesome programs though remote and not for the true urbanite. Lehigh is such a good TY they had people coming out from California for interviews. And Reading has all you can eat food including ice cream. Unreal! Might get fat there though. Super cheap housing too.

Read about Reading here:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=3339579&postcount=17
 
jewish hospital in cincinnati... really cush, call is q6-7 on wards...4 months of electives... icu kinda sucks... other than that, lots of perks, golds gym membership, free latest and greatest palm (this year was a palm tx), every meal is free
 
For columbus try Riverside and Mount Carmel.

I interviewed at Riverside. They have a nice program, facilities, staff, benefits etc. Great education program. Plenty'o'food. They don't differentiate too much for TY's and prelim- if you match they let you choose which way you want to go. If you apply for a ty, they'll let you sign up from prelim when you interview, so don't apply twice.
 
someone mentioned st luke's hospital of bethlehem, PA...
i am a ty here now, 2 months + so far have been non-malignant.
faculty here love to teach, the dept of int med affiliated with temple U.
dept of surgery/trauma surgery was affiliated with upenn until recently? i am not sure.
many of the specialists completed fellowships at reknowned programs - columbia, brown, penn state hershey, etc. now I am on ID rotation getting a private
lecture daily since there is no senior resident on rotation, still the attending doesn't scut me and has controlled the amount of patients i am seeing each day even if he gets busy. the lack of fellowships works out nicely for the ty's since you get taught directly by attendings.

inpatient general med months (4) are extremely busy, more and more families are moving into the area of eastern pa from ny and nj daily. however, the breadth of inpatient and outpatient experience is very good. even when the services get busy, the faculty never take out their stress on the residents ( at least not that i have noticed)

some ty programs don't offer outpatient clinic. this prog does offer continuity clinic weekly no matter what rotation you are on, even for ty's so you can get good outpt experience for pm&r and step 3 too.

for do's there is continuing training and education in ostepathic manual medicine.

overall probably not the cushiest program out there, but very solid and non-malignant program. board pass rate for categoricals has been 100% for the past 7 years, and they treat you no differently than a categorical... my coat says dept of internal med resident, so no one knows unless they ask. ACLS training on-site at orientation so no course-hunting. ATLS training paid and offered on-site too if you do an ICU rotation. book money, food money, pda money... nuff said.
 
I've heard Mt Auburn in Cambridge, Mass is good. It's Harvard in the community.
In San Diego Scripps.
 
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