GPA and grades upon graduation

[shroomysoup]

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This may be a stupid question, but I'm curious. When you graduate and get your diploma, are grades and GPA important factors for employers? I am sure I will have at least 3 D's by the time I graduate...pharmacy school is hard.

 

[ButlerPharm.D.]

You are allowed to graduate with 3 D's!??! At Butler you'd have to remediate those, you are only allowed 5 hours of D.

This may be a stupid question, but I'm curious. When you graduate and get your diploma, are grades and GPA important factors for employers? I am sure I will have at least 3 D's by the time I graduate...pharmacy school is hard.

 

[shroomysoup]

You are allowed to graduate with 3 D's!??! At Butler you'd have to remediate those, you are only allowed 5 hours of D.

I go to Saint Louis College of Pharmacy and from what I know I need a 2.0 cumulative GPA and a 2.0 professional GPA to graduate.

 

[SomeGuy]

Ya, same here at UofToronto, number of D's you get is irrelevant, as long as you get a GPA of at least 1.7 (~60%). Some classes do require a higher mark to pass, but I presume they're that much easier.

 

[28657]

I had one interview...and one offer...so I only know a limited bit. However, no one cared what my grades were...don't worry about it.

 

[sdn1977]

No - for most jobs grades & GPA is not considered as long as you passed your board exam. Academic employment is a bit different though.

 

[ButlerPharm.D.]

Shroomysoup....you might want to check into that, there are a number of COPs that have regulations on the number of hours of D a student can receive. I understand that all you need to graduate is a 2.0 however this might be one of those exceptions.

 

[Trancelucent1]

At UF you must maintain a 2.0 GPA and can only get 3 D's before remidiating. Once you've received your 4th D you must retake all those classes in which you've received D's. Also, if you get a D in a class that has a second part, I believe you cannot take the second part (ie, Cology I and II) until you retake the 1st part. I'm not sure exactly how it works and I hope I never have to!

 

[imperial frog]

At UF you must maintain a 2.0 GPA and can only get 3 D's before remidiating. Once you've received your 4th D you must retake all those classes in which you've received D's. Also, if you get a D in a class that has a second part, I believe you cannot take the second part (ie, Cology I and II) until you retake the 1st part. I'm not sure exactly how it works and I hope I never have to!

And if you get a 5th D you can forget about graduating.

 

[LiveLoveFartRepeat]

At UT Memphis I believe that after your second D your have to take all your D classes over again...and that's if a comittee decide that you are worth a second chance..they will look at how hard you seek help after bad grades...did you go see the prof after exams..did you use the ressources available to you..tutors..counselling..and many other things that the school makes available to guide and help us..

 

[ButlerPharm.D.]

I never knew STLCOP had the above mentioned 3 D policy, makes you wonder.

 

[shroomysoup]

I never knew STLCOP had the above mentioned 3 D policy, makes you wonder.

Huh?? I think you're referring to UF...not STLCOP.

 

[golf299]

funny...i've never heard a good word spoken about STLCOP, and I know several people that attend and/or have attended...

anyway, at the university of colorado we are allowed one D per semester. if you get 2 D's, you get to take the rest of the year off. you have to repeat the courses that you got a D in and you must get C's in both. if you get D's again, you can repeat one last time, but you must get B's that time. overall, you have to maintain a 2.0 to graduate. i'm pretty sure that's how it goes anyway... there have been a handful of people in that situation, unfortunately.

 

[ButlerPharm.D.]

Actually I was referring to STLCOP because you mentioned that by the time you graduate it is likely that you will have received 3 D's. Is there a limit to the number of hours of D a STLCOP student can receive before they are required to remediate? I've heard things about STLOP from people at UMKC as well as other schools.

 

[shroomysoup]

Actually I was referring to STLCOP because you mentioned that by the time you graduate it is likely that you will have received 3 D's. Is there a limit to the number of hours of D a STLCOP student can receive before they are required to remediate? I've heard things about STLOP from people at UMKC as well as other schools.

There is no limit to the number of D's you can get at STLCOP...which is good because some of the classes are impossible.

 

[ButlerPharm.D.]

Perhaps it’s the students because essentially the curriculum is the same no matter what school you attend...it could be the faculty as well. I was always under the impression that anything lower than a grade of C was not considered a passing grade; I guess this doesn't hold true at STLCOP. A pharmacist I work with went to STLCOP for his first 2 years and then transferred to MWU-CCP, because he couldn't stand it there and that the school essentially sucked. The pharmacist I spoke of earlier who attended UMKC said that the only reason STLCOP still exists is because it is associated Barnes. Just some food for thought.

 

[letjin]

There is no limit to the number of D's you can get at STLCOP...which is good because some of the classes are impossible.

Not really. You can't have more than 1 D in each semester during first and second year. Then you cannot have more than 2 D (total) before you are allowed in to the professional program.

 

[shroomysoup]

Not really. You can't have more than 1 D in each semester during first and second year. Then you cannot have more than 2 D (total) before you are allowed in to the professional program.

Well, that's true. I survived 1st and 2nd year and am in the professional program now. The reason why 99.5% of people hate STLCOP is because of the faculty and the way some classes are structured. A popular saying here is "STLCOP...ruining lives and killing dreams since 1867."

 

[ButlerPharm.D.]

Just a quick fact: most schools that have a 0+6 program require that all pre-pharm classes be completed with grades of C or better. You're just making your school look bad...