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I have heard recently of pain physicians performing blocks, and then ablation, of the gray rami at L1 and L2 for suspected discogenic pain.
Is there any justification for this?
 
The use of radiofrequency lesions for pain relief in failed back patients. Sluijter ME. International disability studies 1988;10(1):37-43.

If conservative measures fail in the treatment of the failed back patient and if there is no indication for further surgery, interruption of nerve pathways conducting noxious stimuli may be attempted. The indication for such treatment is made on the result of a series of prognostic blocks analysing the conduction pattern of noxious stimuli. A new technique is described to interrupt the grey communicating ramus, conducting afferent fibres from the anterolateral and anterior parts of the annulus fibrosus. Results indicate a discrepancy between the result of radiofrequency lesions and the outcome of prognostic blocks. The discrepancy is more pronounced in failed back patients. Treatment with radiofrequency lesions is well tolerated and it has few adverse effects. It has a measure of success in a group of patients who are very difficult to manage otherwise.


A randomized controlled trial of radiofrequency denervation of the ramus communicans nerve for chronic discogenic low back pain. Oh WS, Shim JC. Clin J Pain. 2004 Jan-Feb;20(1):55-60.

OBJECTIVE: The objective of this study was to determine the efficacy of percutaneous radiofrequency (RF) thermocoagulation of the ramus communicans nerve in patients suffering from chronic discogenic low back pain. METHODS: Forty-nine patients who suffered chronic discogenic low back pain at only 1 painful vertebral level, and whose pain continued after undergoing intradiscal electrothermal annuloplasty (IDET), were randomly assigned to 1 of 2 treatment groups. The lesion group (n = 26) received RF thermocoagulation of the ramus communicans nerve. Patients in the control group (n = 23) received an injection of lidocaine without radiofrequency. Visual analog scale (VAS) pain scores, analgesic requirements, SF-36 subscales, and the overall patient satisfaction with the procedure were tabulated. RESULTS: The average follow-up period was 4 months. The patient-reported VAS pain scores were significantly lower (P < 0.05) in the lesion group. The scores of the RF lesion group improved by a mean increase of 11.3 points (P < 0.05) on the SF-36 bodily pain subscale, and by a mean increase of 12.4 points on the physical function subscale (P < 0.05). In a follow-up analysis within the RF lesion group, VAS pain scores improved by a mean reduction of 3.32 (P = 0.001). The scores improved by a mean increase of 14.5 points (P = 0.005) on the SF-36 bodily pain subscale and 15.2 points(P = 0.002) on the physical function subscale within the RF lesion group. One patient in the lesion group complained of mild lower limb weakness, but he completely recovered at postoperative 15 days without any serious problems. DISCUSSION: In patients with chronic discogenic low back pain, percutaneous RF denervation of the ramus communicans nerve should be considered as a treatment option.


Gray ramus communicans nerve block: novel treatment approach for painful osteoporotic vertebral compression fracture Chandler G, Dalley G, Hemmer J Jr, Seely T. South Med J. 2001 Apr;94(4):387-93.

BACKGROUND: Osteoporotic vertebral compression fracture (OVCF) is a common complication of osteoporosis in the aging population. Refractory chronic pain may develop, and few effective treatment options exist. METHODS: We retrospectively analyzed 52 cases in which gray ramus communicans nerve block was used for painful OVCF after failure of conservative analgesic therapy. All were office-based, fluoroscopically guided procedures; a combination of 2% lidocaine and 2% sterile triamcinolone diacetate (Aristocort) was injected on the gray ramus tract of the somatic nerve root corresponding with radiographically documented OVCF. Patient-reported and physician-reported pain scores, analgesic medication use, and overall patient satisfaction were measured. The average follow-up period was 9 months. RESULTS: A 1-point improvement in pain scores was reported by 92% of patients and 88% of physicians; a 4-point improvement was reported by 63% and 58%, respectively. No patients reported increased pain scores; physicians reported increases in two cases. Decreased analgesic requirement was documented in 42%. Patient satisfaction was "high" in 50% and "medium" in 25%. No procedural complications occurred. CONCLUSION: Prompt and sustained improvements in all parameters, especially pain scores, support widespread clinical application of this safe effective and cost-effective therapy.
 
Technique?

Is there consistency in location of the grey rami?
In the illustrations I have reviewed, it appears to be at the mid-pedicle level in the cranio-caudad plane and 3/4 position posteriorly along the vertebral body.

Are there adequate anatomical studies or reliable techniques to RF this area?
I have not read the article as mentioned above and do not know if their technique is included.
 
MATERIALS AND METHODS from Oh & Shim
Participants for this study were recruited from a group of
patients who had chronic discogenic pain for more than 1 year.
Each had a history of failed conservative treatment of several
months’ duration, and IDET had been performed on them only
after confirming discogenic pain with provocative discography
at low pressurization. Concordancy was defined as reproduction
of the patient’s typical symptoms. For each patient, the
pressure-controlled provocative discography also determined
the symptomatic disc, established the location of annular tears,
and categorized the sensitivity of the disc annulus to pressurization.
From January 2001 to September 2001 we enrolled 49
patients who had no significant improvement in pain during
the 9 months following IDET. We had enrolled our first 137
consecutive patients who had undergone IDET from March to
November 2000 and patients’ satisfaction with the procedure
and its outcome were examined using the 4-point NASS Patient
Satisfaction Index (PSI). The PSI results indicated that
46% of the samples (63 patients) were not satisfied with their
outcome and would enroll in this study. These patients underwent
a diagnostic block of the ramus communicans nerve to
clarify the relationship between ramus communicans nerve
and discogenic pain. Only patients (49 patients) with at least
50% temporary pain relief were selected for the study. Patients’
MRI scans did not demonstrate a herniated IVD, which
can compress the neural element. Patients with clinical radiculopathies
and other neurologic abnormalities, as well as those
with combined facet joint or myofascial pain, were excluded
from this study. Patients underwent a diagnostic block of the
medial branch of the primary dorsal rami of the segmental
nerves of L3, L4, and L5 first to exclude facet joint induced
pain, and patients with a positive response were excluded from
this study. In addition, plain spine AP, lateral, oblique x-ray
were examined to exclude facet joint abnormalities. Myofascial
pain, paraspinalis muscle spasm induced pain, with a positive
response to trigger point injection and physiotherapy was
also excluded. Other exclusion criteria were: (1) verbal decline,
(2) failure to provide written informed consent, (3) spinal
stenosis, (4) spinal instability, (5) a multilevel (2 or more)
disc lesions, (6) previous spinal surgery, (7) history of excessive
bleeding or coagulopathy, and (8) obvious psychologic
problems. We evaluated the patients with psychologic problems.
Firstly, we examined the study group with MMPI and
excluded the patients with psychologic factors, such as the
presence or severity of depression. If patients were found to
have serious psychologic problems, they were interviewed by
staff psychologists, then reevaluated and excluded from this
study. Secondly, the patients who took antidepressants or antianxiety
drugs were excluded. In addition, 9 women of childbearing
potential were excluded.
Diagnostic Block of the Ramus
Communicans Nerve
To confirm the correlation between ramus communicans
nerve and discogenic pain, a diagnostic local anesthetic block
of the ramus communicans nerve was conducted prior to performing
RF lesions.
Patients who were NPO on the day of the procedure were
transferred to the operating room after intravenous access was
obtained. No preoperative medications were given. Throughout
the procedure, the ECG, O2 saturation, and blood pressure
of the patients were monitored. Patients were given intravenous
sedation with midazolam, but consciousness was maintained
so they could provide accurate verbal responses during
the electrostimulation portion of the procedure. With the patient
prone on the operating table, C-arm fluoroscopy was directed
cranially or caudad so that the end plates of the intervertebral
disc and the vertebral body could be well visualized.
The fluoroscope was then positioned at a 15° to 25° oblique
angle, with the position adjusted until the lateral tip of the
transverse process and the anterior margin of the vertebral
body were in alignment. The skin and subcutaneous tissue
overlying the entry point were anesthetized with 2% lidocaine.
A 150 mm RF curved cannula (cannula 415/10 mm, Stryker
Leibinger GmbH & Co. KG, Freiburg, Germany) with a 10
mm active tip was introduced at the caudad third aspect of the
vertebral body, parallel to the fluoroscopic beam, and advanced
until the periosteum was contacted (Fig. 1). At this
point, the cannula was advanced until it was positioned at the
lateral third aspect of the vertebral body under lateral fluoroscopic
view (Fig. 2). With the needle in proper position, a mixture
of 2 mL 2% lidocaine and 1 mL contrast medium was
injected. After 30 minutes, pain relief was assessed at the recovery
room by using a 4 point Likert scale: no relief, <30%
pain relief; moderate relief, <30–50% pain relief; good relief,
<50% pain relief; and no pain, 100% pain relief. A positive
response was estimated as good relief or no pain state, and
patients underwent RF lesioning of ramus communicans nerve
the next day.
Radiofrequency Lesioning Procedure
The approaching technique of the cannula for the RF lesioning
procedure was identical to the diagnostic block. With
the tip of the cannula in proper position, the stylet was replaced
by the RF probe (Stryker Leibinger GmbH & Co. KG,
Freiburg, Germany) and then connected to the RF thermoco-
Oh and Shim Clin J Pain • Volume 20, Number 1, January/February 2004
56 © 2003 Lippincott Williams & Wilkins
agulator (Neuro N50, Stryker Leibinger GmbH & Co. KG,
Freiburg, Germany). Electro stimulation was applied at 50Hz,
0.8–1.0 volt. The location that provoked a deep aching pain
identical to the usual pain of the patient was confirmed. After a
point at which no motor stimulation of the lower extremity was
noted with a 2 Hz, 1.0–2.0 volt stimulation, 1% lidocaine was
injected followed by RF thermocoagulation at 65°C for 60 seconds.
If motor stimulation was seen, we adjusted the tip of the
RF cannula until there was no stimulation of the motor portion
of the lumbar nerves. RF cannula was gently redirected underneath
the pedicle to rest slightly anterior to the superior aspect
of the intervertebral foramen. The cannula should be 0.5 cm
anterior to the foramen. From the fluoroscopic anteroposterior
(AP) view, it should be at the lateral portion of the vertebral
body as evidenced by fluoroscopy. If the needle is guided carefully,
exactly under the inferior aspect of the pedicle, it will
less likely make contact with the somatic nerve root. In addition,
contrast medium was then injected to confirm the lack of
spinal nerve root. After RF thermocoagulation, 2 mL of preservative-
free 1% lidocaine (Xylocaine®, Astra Co., Korea)
was injected along with 40 mg of sterile triamcinolone acetonide
(Tamcetone®, Hanol Inc., Korea) for the purpose of preventing
postoperative neuritis. RF lesioning was performed
above and below the vertebrae of the affected disc, but, for
patients with bilateral discogenic low back pain, it was carried
out on both sides of the target vertebrae.
 
lobelsteve said:
Now that's good technique write-up. Thanks PAZ.

Steve

Just tried my first GRC block at L1. Patient has had T11-L3 fused and rather than try and perform a multilevel discogram with less than satisfactory PDD, I thought this may help. Pt will call me tomorow and if effective I'll zap it with RF hoping for good results.
 
lobelsteve said:
Just tried my first GRC block at L1. Patient has had T11-L3 fused and rather than try and perform a multilevel discogram with less than satisfactory PDD, I thought this may help. Pt will call me tomorow and if effective I'll zap it with RF hoping for good results.

Are you going to heat it? or go with a pulsed leasion? (now don't go blowing a gasket for my merely ASKING, Algos!)
 
paz5559 said:
Are you going to heat it? or go with a pulsed leasion? (now don't go blowing a gasket for my merely ASKING, Algos!)

If the pt has decent relief I'll zap it as per the technique in the article. I'm no superman.
 
lobelsteve said:
If the pt has decent relief I'll zap it as per the technique in the article. I'm no superman.

How else would you know to go for L1 alone? Were you combining techniques? Did you do it bilaterally? Oh's article performed the GRC block above and below the level of a provocation positive disc. Why not the GRC at L2 as well?
How would you code this procedure, or would you?

Thanks for the postings.
 
kmart said:
How else would you know to go for L1 alone? Were you combining techniques? Did you do it bilaterally? Oh's article performed the GRC block above and below the level of a provocation positive disc. Why not the GRC at L2 as well?
How would you code this procedure, or would you?

Thanks for the postings.

I have no clue what level her pain is coming from, but if it makes a difference at all I'll pick the caudal and cranial levels based more on the MRI findings and zap them. If it doesn't help, we tried. We can always add on adjacent grey rami. I see this as palliative and not therapeutic (my rationale, as the literature is not that vast, but the alternatives all stink and carry a greater risk). And that- is on my informed consent for this procedure.
It may be billable as a paravertebral nerve block or a LSB. I'm not sure, I coded it as other peripheral nerve block (not sure of the CPT, just circeld it on my superbill).
 
ok, don't leave us in suspense - what was the final outcome, both of the block and the RF, if you did, indeed, go forward?
 
paz5559 said:
ok, don't leave us in suspense - what was the final outcome, both of the block and the RF, if you did, indeed, go forward?


Almost a week of relief from the gey rami. RF set up for later in the month. My schedule is too packed to get things done in a timely manner.
I've got 29 patients on the schedule tomorrow- only 9 are for procedures.
 
Hope it turns out well. Keep us posted.
 
With the last patient still awaiting her RF, I just blocked another patient.
Right side L4 and L5 GRC with 1cc 2% lidocaine. I made the mistake of trailing out with the lido and gave her a "heavy leg" for 15 minutes.

Hey PAZ, is it true the heavy leg is AKA the Zimm?

Just kidding.

The patient did have pain relief immediately after the procedure and while walking out of the building.

She'll call me in 5 days and we'll go from there.
 
just my 2 cents...

make sure the patient doesn't have any underlying diabetes, before doing the RF...
 
Saw a patient in follow-up. She had 5 days of "good" relief after the GRC.
I presented all options to her and she would rather schedule a discogram and then decide on PDD vs surgery. She has had prior L4-5 microdisk.
 
lobelsteve said:
Saw a patient in follow-up. She had 5 days of "good" relief after the GRC.
I presented all options to her and she would rather schedule a discogram and then decide on PDD vs surgery. She has had prior L4-5 microdisk.

Yah, but isn't that cause you didn't do the standard Windsor series of 5? 🙂
 
Saw a patient in follow-up. She had 5 days of "good" relief after the GRC.
I presented all options to her and she would rather schedule a discogram and then decide on PDD vs surgery. She has had prior L4-5 microdisk.


Hi all,
Any updates to this?

I find the commicans RF to be an interesting option but have not seen many done. I have seen the Oh and Shim paper quoted above and one or 2 others, but no further studies. some questions:

What has the "real world" efficacy turned out to be for those who are doing them regularly? How much pain relief do patients actually get? (in other words, are effects damped by the fact that there is such a complex network carrying pain signals)

Any major risks? What is the chance of inadvertantly zapping a nerve root or giving a partial or full sympathetomy with the RF?

What is the duration of effect? Only 4-6 months or so as with facet RF?

Tristan
 
Do you think that this block is substantially different from a standard lumbar sympathetic block?

Not the block, it is same thing I think. But the RF of it is supposedly specific to the communicans nerve.
 
If I'm interpreting it correctly, with the GRC procedure, it sounds like the needle tip is advanced to the lateral third of the vertebral body. With LSB, the needle is advanced until flush with the lateral (anterior) margin of the vertebral body. Is that correct?
 
Paz ,

can you explain the position of the needle tip in lateral position. I cant visualize how on the lateral view it was positioned in the lateral third ( sentence in bold below)
A 150 mm RF curved cannula (cannula 415/10 mm, Stryker
Leibinger GmbH & Co. KG, Freiburg, Germany) with a 10
mm active tip was introduced at the caudad third aspect of the
vertebral body, parallel to the fluoroscopic beam, and advanced
until the periosteum was contacted (Fig. 1). At this
point, the cannula was advanced until it was positioned at the
lateral third aspect of the vertebral body under lateral fluoroscopic
view (Fig. 2).

thanks
 
Just tried my first GRC block at L1. Patient has had T11-L3 fused and rather than try and perform a multilevel discogram with less than satisfactory PDD, I thought this may help. Pt will call me tomorow and if effective I'll zap it with RF hoping for good results.



no one has asked the most important real world question, "How are you going to code it".....
 
Any updates on how those patients did? Any updates on how to code the GRC block and also how to code the RFA? Is there any difficulty getting these approved?
 
Gentlemen,
Any reports on outcomes with GRC lesioning?
I have one scheduled tomorrow after very good relief from block.
Many thanks.
 
Gentlemen,
Any reports on outcomes with GRC lesioning?
I have one scheduled tomorrow after very good relief from block.
Many thanks.
Porter:

Great to "see" you - hope all is well with you and yours (please say hi to Helen, Lilly, and Grace for me).

I have tried GRC lesioning several times, with less than stellar outcomes. Could be cause I have never been able to localize the structure with sensory stim prior to creating the lesion (the variability of the location is, in my mind, the limiting factor of the procedure).

From a practical standpoint, I am also not sure it is legitimate to bill this as a sympathetic block, leaving either 06499 or 64640 as your only two legitimate billing options. I would suggest running it past a CPC before billing it as a sympathetic block, as to me that seems downstream to the GRC, and thus not an accurate description of what you actually did.
 
In my experience:

GRC has a role but it is undefined. I have performed dozens of double diagnostic blocks and about 20 RF's. Success rate is 60% and out of that 2 are still in the placebo effect period (3 months).

Indications:

1. Severe DDD with pain unrelieved by MBB, SIJ, or ESI and not candidate for discogram, PDD, or surgery.

2. DDD with adequate disc height for PDD or IDET, pre-discogram and wishes to avoid PDD, IDET, surgery. Has had ESI, MBB, SIJ

3. Discgram proven pain but not surgical candidate or PDD or IDET

My methodology:

1. L2 GRC with 0.5cc 2% lidocaine more painful side injected
2. L2 GRC with 0.5cc 0.5% bupivacaine
3. If 1,2 both with 70+% relief lasting 4-12 hours then RF same location as single 90 second lesion.

During RF sensory stim I would often get tingling radiating to the buttock, and motor stim would often get pulsation in the gracillis/medial hamstring/adductor region. This would force me to move anteriorly/medially until stimulation subsided. I was too bothered to lesion there thinking I may be getting some root stim, but it did not make anatomical sense. Judgment call not to burn it (DO NO HARM).

Initial position obtained by straight AP and advancing paramedian to posterior third of vertebral body at junction of inferior third of body. I move from AP to lateral a bit to land on os at just anterior to posterior third of body and just superior to inferior third of the body. I keep the inferior endplate squared with the beam.

As I have just relocated offices/jobs/equipment, I will begin a case series in january and write a manuscript after 30 consectuive patients enrolled.
 
From a practical standpoint, I am also not sure it is legitimate to bill this as a sympathetic block, leaving either 06499 or 64640 as your only two legitimate billing options. I would suggest running it past a CPC before billing it as a sympathetic block, as to me that seems downstream to the GRC, and thus not an accurate description of what you actually did.

This falls in a real "grey area" :laugh:

My better half has her CPC and when I reviewed the anatomy with her, she said you could make a good argument for using the 64520 (sympathetic nerve block) code to describe the block portion of the procedure, BUT since you don't typically do a LSB for back/disc pain, it would probably get rejected by the insurance company as not medically necessary with those diagnosis codes, and that doesn't get you anywhere...

I would NOT use 64640 for the RF procedure. First because the $reimbursement$ is way less for the work you are doing (30% less than a lumbar medial branch RF, which is more comparable in work required). Second, because this is NOT a peripheral nerve by any stretch of the imagination.

And for those using pulsed RF with this procedure, the AMA has issued a position statement that you have to use 64999 when pulsing, NOT the destruction codes.

This leaves 64999... 🙁
Having research studies, a case report or prospective trial report to send with the claim would go a long way toward getting it paid well. Line 19 says "similar to 64622" (unless the carrier doesn't cover 64622 😱 ). Write a brief letter stating the great *increase in function* the patient has achieved from your procedure, what treatments the patient has failed previously, how much less medicine they are taking, and send with the op report.

Thanks again for the bad news, Mrs. Ligament...
 
resurrecting an old thread - have a pt with discogenic pain - there was a component of facet (pain w extension) which went away with RFA but still with axial back pain. doesn't want surgery, ESIs in the past (not by me) only effective for 1-2 weeks.

Was contemplating GRC block but wanted to know what kind of outcomes u were seeing (see if lobelsteve had more N) and if u were able to get paid for them and if so which codes. I had an attending who did them during fellowship but he was cash only so he didn't worry about coding. i didn't spend enough time with him to know if the long term outcome was as good as he said it was.
he thought u could technically call it a symp block because they do contain symp fibers but like Mrs. Ligament said, the ICD-9 code is probably not going to go over well...
 
LSB for the block, and PV nerve for the RF.
SIngle level at L2, though I had one guy come back for an L4 after L2.

Results are 65% success at 6 months (compared to 785 reported success in some literature (in one of these threads) based on my patient data.
Better than I haad expected. n=42 at this point.
 
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