Happy Holidays to PD's?

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what do you think about sending a happy holidays card to PD's...wish them a merry xmas, hanukah, etc and the same time indirectly mention how much u love their program

good idea???

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Ass kissing if you ask me. Better to send an email after interview season to give them notification of your strong interest (back this up with some substantive reasons why). I think holiday cards would turn me off if I was a PD and it was from an applicant. It will be different once you are already a resident, than a holiday card to your PD would be more meaningful IMO. Just being honest.
 
I concur with above, you are trying too hard. A simple thank-you note after the interview would suffice. And wouldn't it suck to guess wrong and send an orthodox Jewish PD a Christmas card?
 
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send a holiday card in general not representing christmas or hannakuh. After all with the increase of internal medicine applicants, you want to stand out a little bit.
 
With all due respect, I disagree. You are a professional, not a 16-yo college applicant kiss-ass. The PD is not your best buddy or your uncle.
 
I agree with those people who say this is a bad idea. There is just too much room for it to be seen as a negative. For example, some people don't even celebrate Christmas or Hannukah and this would be an insult. Even if they are Christian, they may despise the commercial nature of Christmas and be offended. Think about it, no one mails Christmas cards to people they don't really know personally except businesses. You mail them to friends and family. The PDs are neither of those. Just send a thank you card and call it a day.

FYI: To the poster who advises "you need to separate yourself" I would say, I hope someone warned you about the dangers of standing out too much. For example, I was told it is better to have a "somewhat" boring personal statement because being too over the top can hurt you. You want your academic record and accomplishments to stand out. Medicine is still a conservative field --- if you don't believe me, notice that all applicants are very similarly dressed (suits are black, gray, brown, blue, occasionally ivory, sometimes pin striped). The most "unique" item one may wear may be a snazzy tie (men) or bright colored blouse (women). Usually men remove earrings and women have very tiny nose earrings if they have nose jewelry.
 
Really? I did send my holiday greetings to some professors and chiefs that presented with great manners at my interviews...And, I just got some of replies.

We are humans. I feel happy even receiving holiday greetings from some commercials...so...
 
Some people are so paranoid and think so negatively....put yourself in the shoes of a program director who happen to be real people and have families and kids and a life outside the hospital. I wouldn't mind receiving xmas or any other holiday cards...ofcourse you're not gonna send a happy xmas card to a jewish P.D....but nothing wrong with sending something that says Happy Holidays or something of that sort.

MD class of 2007= Future Grinches of Xmas
 
The problem is simply you don't know what the person's religious preferences are. I had a PD who had a Jewish last name and during the course of the interview, he told me that he actually celebrates Christmas not Hannukah because his wife is Christian and he does not practice Judaism. So, my point, is it is just a risk if you guess their faith wrong. Some people are more sensitive and are staunchly Muslim, atheist, agnostic, or Christian (against the commercialization of the holiday). Again, why not just send a thank you card if the goal is simply to convey interest? This is just my opinion -- please send the card if you feel it is a good idea. I am not a grinch and think we should all be old enough to understand professionalism and not name call if people disagree with our opinions.

Some people are so paranoid and think so negatively....put yourself in the shoes of a program director who happen to be real people and have families and kids and a life outside the hospital. I wouldn't mind receiving xmas or any other holiday cards...ofcourse you're not gonna send a happy xmas card to a jewish P.D....but nothing wrong with sending something that says Happy Holidays or something of that sort.

MD class of 2007= Future Grinches of Xmas
 
Well, if you're so sure of the answer already and are just going to call anyone who doesn't agree with you a "grinch", why did you post the question in the first place? Just go ahead and send the card if that's what you want to do.

Some people are so paranoid and think so negatively....put yourself in the shoes of a program director who happen to be real people and have families and kids and a life outside the hospital. I wouldn't mind receiving xmas or any other holiday cards...ofcourse you're not gonna send a happy xmas card to a jewish P.D....but nothing wrong with sending something that says Happy Holidays or something of that sort.

MD class of 2007= Future Grinches of Xmas
 
i wouldn't send specifically an elaborate "merry xmas" or "happy holidays" card; a simple thank you card but at the same time w/ pictures resembling the holiday season i think would not hurt. i think a pd getting offended by a holiday season thank you card would be a little too extreme
 
Some people are so paranoid and think so negatively....put yourself in the shoes of a program director who happen to be real people and have families and kids and a life outside the hospital. I wouldn't mind receiving xmas or any other holiday cards...ofcourse you're not gonna send a happy xmas card to a jewish P.D....but nothing wrong with sending something that says Happy Holidays or something of that sort.

MD class of 2007= Future Grinches of Xmas

It's not like you're doing this out of the goodness of your heart alone, though, right? In your original post, you talk about sending a holiday greeting as an indirect way to mention how much you love the program, etc. But, I am posting here, because I am confused on something....

Does it really matter to a program how much interest you have? I mean, obviously it would be implied that you have interest. Otherwise, why would you apply and then spend money on travel, etc. to get there for interview day. Will a program really rank you higher if you seem to have even more interest in the form of a phone call or generic holiday card?

I mean, I get the idea of sending thank you cards to be polite, but I don't understand the value of calling a program to say that they are your #1, for example. Can someone explain this to me? I know that some PD's in other specialties pick up the phone and do this for applicants, so there must be something to this. But I guess I just don't know what... I thought you simply rank the best on down and it sorts itself out from there. Thoughts?
 
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