happy in med school

[NRAI2001]

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Exactly, you haven't been accepted yet, so how can you presume to know what people who are in medical school are going through and how it correlates to where they've been?

Please, don't pretend to know/be able to analyze what you haven't yet experienced.

All i did was give my input and this is how ms1finally and ms1/4barely started to critize me.

 

[ez073323]

Yea you must be right, bc you know me and all.

If i m so undeserving to enter the medical field bc of my "hurtful comments" (which aren't one sided dip$hit) wouldn't the fact that your ill wishes towards me make you less deserving also? You need to get off her jock and back to your harry potter club.

My ill wishes towards you are generated by the fact that you have attacked people close to me. A sense of closeness and loyalty can be an impediment at times, but sheer ignorance and hurtfulness like yours has no place in the healthcare field (or any field).

Brian

 

[ez073323]

Hey Brian, long time no see. Haven't seen u (or a couple other people) online much since Vegas.

what's up dude.

School is just crazy like that...

Hope all is well with you...

Brian

 

[maxflash04]

That person has made an ass of her/himself. I can't believe one would rant on and on about something s/he knows nothing about! I'm still doing undergraduate studies and even though I love reading the Allopathic section of SDN, I keep quiet when it comes to an experience I haven't experienced myself.

I respect every one of you medical students who devote their lives to studying and medicine so they can be great doctors!

I can't wait until I'm in your position and get to attend medical school. I'll be a junior after this semester and I'm so anxious it's not even funny! I guess I'm sort of anal... really anal about that type of stuff. Anyway, I just thought I'd give my $0.02.

Have a good day everyone!

maxflash04

 

[Rendar5]

All i did was give my input and this is how ms1finally and ms1/4barely started to critize me.

aka
"You got a new haircut".

 

[NRAI2001]

aka
"You got a new haircut".

Keep your to yourself. They hurt my feelings 🙁

 

[Elysium]

First of all, Brian, baby, thanks for the virtual smack down! This clown is pretty weak, though, so no worries. You know how I love getting into fights with people on SDN! That's why I was the blue falcon, if you recall.

NRA, you're just so sad. Everyone on this forum knows you're a dipsh1t, so I don' see why I need to keep dishing out abuse to your bitter med 0/4 self (or is that "not even in the running since I haven't gotten any acceptances"?). If you could read english (is english your second language?) I made the comment about my SO going into intv cards because I was going to work full time while he was in residency so we could live on more than $30,000. I don't really see how taking care of your spouse is being a gold digger, but you're the relationship expert, not me! And as far as "abandoning my dream for some guy", well, again, we have a language barrier. I think I stated quite succinctly that I left med school because I hated every single minute I was there. If you want proof, ask ez073323, who was roommate and friend throughout that entire horrible year. I cried almost every day, I was angry, depressed, sad, humiliated, lost, bitter, lonely, and dissapointed. I hated it so much I just couldn't justify going on one more minute. I had 2-3 migraines a week, muscle spasms in my back, panic attacks, and more. Med school nearly killed me. I've never felt so bored and claustrophobic in my life - there is absolutely 0 creativity in medicine, and I just couldn't live without having some kind of passion. I realized my passion for being a doctor had dwindled to nothing - med school, in essence, cured of my desire to be a physician. It had nothing at all to do with sacrament. I figured out that I wanted to eventually have kids and needed to be around for their upbringing. Doing that in residency would be IMPOSSIBLE. That has everything to do with what I've found to be important in this life, regardless of who I'm with. If sac and I don't last, I will someone who wants the same things out of life I do (to have a family and make them a priority).

I'm not really saying this for your benefit, by the way, since you're such a limp dick you probably won't even understand what I'm talking about. But, rather, for everyone else who hates school and wonders if anyone else has the courage to leave and not look back.

 

[thewebthsp]

I felt like I wanted a year off so badly towards the end of my first year. Still feel very very lost and very let down by what I thought would be a fun, collegial thing to do. It seems everyone (and I myself am guilty of this) has made caricatures of each other and few know one another for the real person (with all their true interests, intellectual pursuits and artistic talent) and instead have made others little tokens of which to judge each other. Second everyone's lives seems now to revolve and involve themselves about the most petty of things. Such as how warm or cold the rooms are, or about how bad just about everything is, or how quickly everyone has got to just "get through" so we can leave (I'd rather sit down and figure out what's going on in histology for example-- but looks of death are intimidating). Or what a good crossword puzzle we should be doing during lecture -- instead of either just not attending or going and respecting the lecturer.

Do I say anything? Hell no. I don't want to be "that guy" who thinks he should change everyone else. I also am a little bitter because of a particular person that stabbed me in the back repeatedly last year ....

Last-- most importantly -- why does everyone take themselves so f|_|cking seriously? Life is not going to collapse because we missed a dot on our i's doing a presentation. In any event Elysium, I feel for you. Maybe reconsider leaving altogether, just take this year off-- supposedly the wards are better.

Let's stay on topic and refrain from answering people who are purposely inflaming other people...

 

[NRAI2001]

I felt like I wanted a year off so badly towards the end of my first year. Still feel very very lost and very let down by what I thought would be a fun, collegial thing to do. It seems everyone (and I myself am guilty of this) has made caricatures of each other and few know one another for the real person (with all their true interests, intellectual pursuits and artistic talent) and instead have made others little tokens of which to judge each other. Second everyone's lives seems now to revolve and involve themselves about the most petty of things. Such as how warm or cold the rooms are, or about how bad just about everything is, or how quickly everyone has got to just "get through" so we can leave (I'd rather sit down and figure out what's going on in histology for example-- but looks of death are intimidating). Or what a good crossword puzzle we should be doing during lecture -- instead of either just not attending or going and respecting the lecturer.

Do I say anything? Hell no. I don't want to be "that guy" who thinks he should change everyone else. I also am a little bitter because of a particular person that stabbed me in the back repeatedly last year ....

Last-- most importantly -- why does everyone take themselves so f|_|cking seriously? Life is not going to collapse because we missed a dot on our i's doing a presentation. In any event Elysium, I feel for you. Maybe reconsider leaving altogether, just take this year off-- supposedly the wards are better.

Let's stay on topic and refrain from answering people who are purposely inflaming other people...

Yea, lets get back to the topic. Sorry you had a bad experience Elysium.

 

[ajnak182]

Yeah... what he said. It's a lot of work, but every time I get a bit stressed or frustrated, walking through a hallway in the med center and realizing the opportunity I have to make a real impact on the world around me evaporates any negative thoughts. I still know next to nothing about what's in store for me as a lowly MS1, but it is very apparent that I won't have much trouble finding a career that I will be enthralled with when my formal education has been completed. I do miss having contact with the outside world on a more regular basis, but that's something you sacrifice when you get out of college and try to build a career regardless. Good luck!

AJ

PS-Alex, how are things down in Dallas? I hope all is well bro, best regards.

I'm happy, I enjoy school (though I hate biochem), I enjoy my classmates, and I enjoy being around people working in a field I love. The workload is managable, it is more than I had in undergrad, but still not so much that you don't have any time. I go to class everyday, which eats up a lot of my time, and I preread everything, so I do work essentually from 9-9 5 days week, and about 6-8 hours on weekend. If I have a test it's obviously a lot more the weekend before. I find plenty of time to go out to eat with friends or chat during the day. Actually, I am much happier now that I was in college (though I did enjoy college very much). This is partly because I am done with applying for med school and know I will get my M.D., and partly because of all the reasons I mentioned before. Sure, it is stressful and a lot of work, but there is honestly no other way I would want to spend my time.

 

[synapse lapse]

Yeah... what he said. It's a lot of work, but every time I get a bit stressed or frustrated, walking through a hallway in the med center and realizing the opportunity I have to make a real impact on the world around me evaporates any negative thoughts. I still know next to nothing about what's in store for me as a lowly MS1, but it is very apparent that I won't have much trouble finding a career that I will be enthralled with when my formal education has been completed. I do miss having contact with the outside world on a more regular basis, but that's something you sacrifice when you get out of college and try to build a career regardless. Good luck!

AJ

PS-Alex, how are things down in Dallas? I hope all is well bro, best regards.

Things are great, I love it! Did you end up goiing to Baylor? If not where are you at now? Glad you are also enjoying your time.

 

[Simonster]

I have only been in for a few weeks. I couldn't ask for a better school, and my classmates are a friendly, down-to-earth group. I got a top score on my first exam, so I should be happy, right?

But I'm miserable. I left a lot of loved ones behind (I think a lot of us made that sacrifice)...and it feels like I aged another year in the past five weeks. I am definitely turning into an alcoholic, even drinking WHILE i study...

Of course, I just started in august! I keep hoping I'll feel differently soon, beforat least for the sake of my liver. It doesn't seem like anyone else is having these problems. Can't tell if i'm weak or if the others just have great fronts.

 

[Cashew]

Can't tell if i'm weak or if the others just have great fronts.

The others just have great fronts.

 

[nylee]

I am VERY HAPPY.
extremely glad that I chose to come to Hopkins. then again, I'm a fourth year and it would be very difficult to find an unhappy fourth year... 😀

 

[Rendar5]

The others just have great fronts.

No, I think that there's more going on than that here 🙁.

Simonster: You might want to talk to someone if u're miserable and boozing it up everyday. (Don't know about ur school, but our school has someone who's great to talk to about these things in one of the offices. Most people aren't feeling that great starting med school, and they do tend to put up fronts, but it isn't usually that bad.

 

[PreMedAdAG]

so I know this conversation has slightly been led astray, but going back to the original point, I have some questions, some statements, etc. that I'd like to write down... mainly because SDN is my salvation when I need my feelings validated, when I need to let go of anger, or when I need to FREAK out ... so this doesn't leak out into my family's, boyfriend's and friends' lives:

Med school just started this week and I'm naturally a paranoid person. For example, I have a hard time thinking I"m good enough to be in medical school, like I'm going to score real high on the "stupid" scale in all my classes. Anyway, it's day 4.... why am I already exhausted. I like what I"m learning, I'm thrilled that I'm in school, it makes me feel like a cool kid... but my emotional state has already changed. MY eyes are bloodshot by the end of the day, I'm not eating very well (actually i'm just consuming mad quantities of caffeine) and I'm not exercising. I also find myself looking at the clock when I'm hanging out with friends... and I can't see my boyfriend but once or twice a week. ANyone have advice on how to adjust as quick as possible and learn to accept what I'm doing and be happy regardless?

There are people in my class that are married, have kids, have lives! I try to think of them when I'm struggling cuz I can't imagine dealing with that at all. They are amazing in my eyes!! Well anyway, just needed to get that off my chest. Thanks for listening even if you choose not to respond 🙂

 

[Kazema]

My advice is to schedule everything, and to stick to the schedule. For example, on Thursdays my schedule is class until 12, gym and then lunch until 2, then study until 7, then I go home and don't touch ANY books, unless I realize that I forgot to do/study something absolutely critical.

Same with weekends. I schedule my study time so that when I'm out having fun, I know I already did what I was supposed to do that day study-wise so I can just enjoy myself without worrying.

Don't overdo the studying. If you're spending hours staring at the same stuff and not comprehending it, you're probably doing something wrong; get help immediately. If you're not getting enough sleep at night because you're studying too much, your brain is not going to work as well. Plus you'll be more likely to get sick. Two things you absolutely should not sacrifice for studying are eating and sleeping. You know how much sleep you need to get through the day - make sure you get at minimum that amount of sleep. And always schedule in time for you to eat. If you don't get enough sleep or you don't eat, you're not going to learn as effectively anyway. Think of sleeping and eating as investments if you have to - you're investing several hours each day in your body's ability to study effectively. Corny, I know.

I think you'll find that when you compartmentalize studying and don't let it take over your entire life, your stress level will go down. I personally also like to compartmentalize school location-wise; I try not to do much (if any) studying at home. That way, when I get home, I know I can just relax and not worry about anything. School is at school, home is at home.

Hope that all made sense.

 

[HeavyA]

My advice is to schedule everything, and to stick to the schedule. For example, on Thursdays my schedule is class until 12, gym and then lunch until 2, then study until 7, then I go home and don't touch ANY books, unless I realize that I forgot to do/study something absolutely critical.

Same with weekends. I schedule my study time so that when I'm out having fun, I know I already did what I was supposed to do that day study-wise so I can just enjoy myself without worrying.

Don't overdo the studying. If you're spending hours staring at the same stuff and not comprehending it, you're probably doing something wrong; get help immediately. If you're not getting enough sleep at night because you're studying too much, your brain is not going to work as well. Plus you'll be more likely to get sick. Two things you absolutely should not sacrifice for studying are eating and sleeping. You know how much sleep you need to get through the day - make sure you get at minimum that amount of sleep. And always schedule in time for you to eat. If you don't get enough sleep or you don't eat, you're not going to learn as effectively anyway. Think of sleeping and eating as investments if you have to - you're investing several hours each day in your body's ability to study effectively. Corny, I know.

I think you'll find that when you compartmentalize studying and don't let it take over your entire life, your stress level will go down. I personally also like to compartmentalize school location-wise; I try not to do much (if any) studying at home. That way, when I get home, I know I can just relax and not worry about anything. School is at school, home is at home.

Hope that all made sense.

I'm jealous. I wish I only had class until noon.

 

[Hoya11]

My advice is to schedule everything, and to stick to the schedule. For example, on Thursdays my schedule is class until 12, gym and then lunch until 2, then study until 7, then I go home and don't touch ANY books, unless I realize that I forgot to do/study something absolutely critical.

Same with weekends. I schedule my study time so that when I'm out having fun, I know I already did what I was supposed to do that day study-wise so I can just enjoy myself without worrying.

Don't overdo the studying. If you're spending hours staring at the same stuff and not comprehending it, you're probably doing something wrong; get help immediately. If you're not getting enough sleep at night because you're studying too much, your brain is not going to work as well. Plus you'll be more likely to get sick. Two things you absolutely should not sacrifice for studying are eating and sleeping. You know how much sleep you need to get through the day - make sure you get at minimum that amount of sleep. And always schedule in time for you to eat. If you don't get enough sleep or you don't eat, you're not going to learn as effectively anyway. Think of sleeping and eating as investments if you have to - you're investing several hours each day in your body's ability to study effectively. Corny, I know.

I think you'll find that when you compartmentalize studying and don't let it take over your entire life, your stress level will go down. I personally also like to compartmentalize school location-wise; I try not to do much (if any) studying at home. That way, when I get home, I know I can just relax and not worry about anything. School is at school, home is at home.

Hope that all made sense.

Good advice.

I found the first few months of ms1 to be the absolute worst. I heard this somewhere about common worries in med school:

FIrst years think: Am i smart enough for this?

Second years think: Do I really want to do this?

I think both are true. Am i smart enough goes away about half way through first year, and am i still waiting for Do I really want to do this? to go away... but it makes me feel better that these are common worries.

 

[dr_siba21]

it was hard to enter into this stream . it is hard now for others to enter into it . many who have actual aim to be a doctor is not the way they are becoming a doctor as there remains a tough competition 4 getting into..


but the life of a medical student is worst. he has lot to read . many things to be done . i am a doctor . but restless to be a good doctor.

 

[NRAI2001]

it was hard to enter into this stream . it is hard now for others to enter into it . many who have actual aim to be a doctor is not the way they are becoming a doctor as there remains a tough competition 4 getting into..


but the life of a medical student is worst. he has lot to read . many things to be done . i am a doctor . but restless to be a good doctor.

😕

 

[21JumpStreet]

“You will become part of a select few. no other school (law school, chem grad school, math grad school, etc.) is generally more challenging [i will not waste time responding to any objectors of that comment.”

Seriously get over yourself. I have a doctorate in one of these sciences and currently a med student. Med school is very challenging. But, i'd say it is not nearly as challenging as a math/physics phd program. The curriculum is tougher and your responsibilities are not only to your education. In addition to your coursework, dissertation and research, a great deal of your time is being responsible for ugrad students. Unless you have a doctorate in one of those programs or have spent years in one (knowing people doesn't count) than stop making sweeping generalizations. Otherwise you know absolutely nothing, kid.

 

[Rendar5]

“You will become part of a select few. no other school (law school, chem grad school, math grad school, etc.) is generally more challenging [i will not waste time responding to any objectors of that comment.”

Seriously get over yourself. I have a doctorate in one of these sciences and currently a med student. Med school is very challenging. But, i'd say it is not nearly as challenging as a math/physics phd program. The curriculum is tougher and your responsibilities are not only to your education. In addition to your coursework, dissertation and research, a great deal of your time is being responsible for ugrad students. Unless you have a doctorate in one of those programs or have spent years in one (knowing people doesn't count) than stop making sweeping generalizations. Otherwise you know absolutely nothing, kid.

haha,gotta agree w/ u here. personally, I find math and chem grad school (as well as most other really in-depth ones) are intellectually harder than becoming a doctor. Might not be nearly as much course work or nearly the breadth that you have to learn, of course. But the level of the material taught is definitely higher than that in med school. Thank god too If med school tried to teach at that level, it'd be years longer before residency and 90% of us would be clinically insane.

 

[21JumpStreet]

haha,gotta agree w/ u here. personally, I find math and chem grad school (as well as most other really in-depth ones) are intellectually harder than becoming a doctor. Might not be nearly as much course work or nearly the breadth that you have to learn, of course. But the level of the material taught is definitely higher than that in med school. Thank god too If med school tried to teach at that level, it'd be years longer before residency and 90% of us would be clinically insane.

The coursework is VERY in depth especially in mixed fields like Geophysics. I'd still say that the coursework is just as detailed let alone having to conduct research, complete a juried dissertation, and deal with ugrads.

 

[mucha]

I'm a 4th year student, and I liked med school as much as undergrad.
It's a like job, not my hobby.
I am comfortable and peaceful with it, it's been a good experience.
I decided to be an average student and stick to it, including for usmles.
I don't volunteer for exta time on rotation, I don't seek high grades (except for my specialty, which I really enjoy).
Just concentrate on knowing enough to be a decent doctor.
It is a risk to be average, but I am not burned out like many of my friends.
And I enjoy many things outside medicine.
I am a professional "pass" person, but I am very happy and relaxed with my life. 😀

 

[dr_siba21]

this was a horrible thread to read before my first day of class tomorrow

wish u a good day in medical school . dont forget to reply back how u feel.


correct worng diagnosis

 

[PreMedAdAG]

I'm a 4th year student, and I liked med school as much as undergrad.
It's a like job, not my hobby.
I am comfortable and peaceful with it, it's been a good experience.
I decided to be an average student and stick to it, including for usmles.
I don't volunteer for exta time on rotation, I don't seek high grades (except for my specialty, which I really enjoy).
Just concentrate on knowing enough to be a decent doctor.
It is a risk to be average, but I am not burned out like many of my friends.
And I enjoy many things outside medicine.
I am a professional "pass" person, but I am very happy and relaxed with my life. 😀

you are my hero!

 

[Chief Resident]

Just a thought: never take a 4th year med student's advice about med school (no offense mucha). They've already been through the thick of it and are now coasting in 4th year. People tend to downplay/forget about the bad and emphasize the good when looking back in hindsight.