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Currently a pharmacy student... Just curious to see what I should be extra prepared for haha
On the contrary, school isn't that horrible. Just have an outlet unrelated to pharmacy and your classmates- You'll be pretty miserable if it engulfs you 24x7.
How did you guys find time to study?
How did you guys find time to study?
hardest part? douche bags in my class.
For me, it was to maintain the best possible combination of academic achievements and internship experience possible. If one or the other, it would be relatively easy. But keeping a 3.8 GPA while working both a retail and hospital internship made it rough. Waking up at 7, work and study until 11 every night, 7 days a week, 4 years of it. Dating my wife, who was my classmate at the time, did soften the edges when times got tough. But you might not want to date a classmate in case it doesn't work out.
Just like studying hard during K-12, during undergrad, hard work gets you ahead. There are hard classes and easy classes, different ones for different people. But it all boils down to having a sound plan on how to achieve your goals, and then have the conviction to do whatever it takes to follow through.
I'm honestly a bit surprised at all the talks of self medicating and having PTSD from pharmacy school. Pharmacy school might be a bit rough when you are shoot for all A's, but it's not as hard as Med School. One might dream about a midterm or final during school, but certainly shouldn't be having nightmares after graduation.tl;dr
I'm on adderall bro.
If anything, I saw during my internship how the madness of the walgreens/CVS was stressing out the pharmacists.
I was at work every day at 6:30 - worked or went to class until 6:00 pm (and 6:30-3 every other weekend)- studied for an hour or two between classes - beers with buds after work - then a little studying before bed.How did you guys find time to study?
I'm honestly a bit surprised at all the talks of self medicating and having PTSD from pharmacy school. Pharmacy school might be a bit rough when you are shoot for all A's, but it's not as hard as Med School. One might dream about a midterm or final during school, but certainly shouldn't be having nightmares after graduation.
I'm honestly a bit surprised at all the talks of self medicating and having PTSD from pharmacy school. Pharmacy school might be a bit rough when you are shoot for all A's, but it's not as hard as Med School. One might dream about a midterm or final during school, but certainly shouldn't be having nightmares after graduation.
I happen to remember it, and even the crazy 80 hr/week residency, with fondness, because these were well defined challenges with clear goals, rules and competition. If anything, I saw during my internship how the madness of the walgreens/CVS was stressing out the pharmacists. Compare to that, studying at Barns and Nobel, with a tall cup of delicious coffee, take a break by chatting with my wife to be, was practically cozy.
I really envy you Mr.Have-It-All !!!
Some people, like me, got it rough man!!
I probably had it rougher than most of my class. The difference is how challenge of pharmacy school is viewed: for the competitive type, studying/working 80 hr a week isn't a traumatic experience, but a time when we brought our A game and hence a time of fond memories. I get that many people don't enjoy school and the competition, they just wanted to be handed a diploma. But even then, it's a drag and something they like to complain about. But having PTSD like symptoms for years afterwards? That's gota be exaggerating it a bit.
How did you guys find time to study?
I don't particularly care about academic achievement since getting As does not translate to future success in life. I did half of these and still maintain a decent GPA. But, if I want to get all As, this is what I'd do.
- Review the material before you sleep. Every night, 1-1&1/2 hours before I sleep, I review all the material that is going to be covered on any upcoming quiz or exam. Research shows that if you study right before you sleep, you'll have a greater retention rate.
- Read the books for the class at least 3 times. I read the textbook/s for the class at least 3 times. Each time, I find more important things to highlight or underline. Reading the book just once doesn't store all the information in your long term memory (only some geniuses can do that). When you read the book more than once, you don't risk skimming over anything and you retain important details, whether it's history, English, or Cs, this should be your rule.
- Know your basics. I can't stress how important it is to have a strong base, or else you fall behind not only in the class, but several classes behind. You might think that those basics aren't that important, but if you know your basics then the difficult topics won't be that bad.
- Record and transcribe your lectures. I record mostly all the lectures, listen to it as soon as possible, and write down almost everything the professor has said. My logic is that your professor is the one who makes the exams. If you have in writing his or her entire lecture, you now know what he or she stressed, what is important to them, what wording they'll use, and a lot of other hints that one doesn't usually catch during the lecture.
- Go to class. Try not to skip class. (Reason above^)
- Practice math problems out of many books. For math classes, don't do problems just out of one book. Do every single problem out of 3-4 books, and ask your TA about any problems you don't understand. Also, don't look at the solution manual too often. Attempt math problems 8+ times, and then if you absolutely have no idea how to do it, check the solutions.
- Start studying before the semester/quarter begins. In either case you have 1-3 weeks of break. Instead of JUST partying (by the emphasis on just I'm implying to have fun too), study for your classes before they even begin. Get ahead at least half the course outline.
- Find a place where your most productive studying takes place. For me, it's usually places where other students are studying too. I feel focused to a higher degree when people around me are focused as well. Not everyone is like that. I have a friend you doesn't like studying outside at all, she feels most productive while studying at home. Find your place.
- Do many sample exams. 5 days before any exam, go online and find as many midterms you can about that subject matter from many universities.
- Study more than one subject a day. Don't spend the entire day studying one subject. Keep switching every 3-4 hours.
- Exercise at least 1 hour a day. When you exercise, blood rushes to your brain and you gain a ton of knowledge in your next study session faster than before.
- Make friends with most of your class. They will be a huge support during study sessions, problem sets, and it's always fun to have friends studying with you.
- When you're studying, be happy. Genuinely feel thankful and excited that you have the opportunity to gain all that wonderful knowledge from that magnificent book and from that amazing professor. Enjoy every moment that you have to learn something new. You'll truly thrive then.
- Eat healthy. If you're up till 2 am studying, skip eating a chocolate bar or drinking a red bull. These products will only make you slower in the long run. Eat a fruit, cereal, or something else healthy whenever you have the urge to eat some processed foods to gain back some energy. Also, eat fish. The DHA is great for your brain. Another thing, don't diet. Your brain can't work if it's starving.
- Desire it. If you really want A's, then no curve in the world can prevent you from getting them. If you desire it enough, it'll take over your mind, body, brain until it'll be all that you think about. And statistics show that successful people think about their goals most of the time.
- Work hard, but enjoy your college experience too. Unless you're planning on going to Harvard Medical or Law, have some fun every week. Visit the beach, go to the mountains, throw a party.
- Read the syllabus and visit your prof during office hours to figure out exactly how to get an A: This one was the Secret Sauce for me. Common wisdom is: do all of the reading, go to class, study and you'll get good grades. You'll find that this approach is not optimal for every class. Some classes you should focus mainly on the reading, others you can all but ignore the reading, others still you should put nearly all of your effort into the essays. The prof won't directly tell you this though, the clues will be in the syllabus or freely given to you just by asking. View all of this information as your roadmap from day 1 for each course, don't just mindlessly follow the other steps.
- Start studying a week before your exams. Start writing your essays a week before they are due: The alternative is the night before like most people. Doing it at a reasonable pace for a week and simply reviewing the night before is far more productive. Also less stressful.
- Relax
I support most of this. However, studies have shown that memory retention correlates with blood glucose. You DO want to eat healthy most of the time, but I recommend eating candy while studying.I don't particularly care about academic achievement since getting As does not translate to future success in life. I did half of these and still maintain a decent GPA. But, if I want to get all As, this is what I'd do.
- Review the material before you sleep. Every night, 1-1&1/2 hours before I sleep, I review all the material that is going to be covered on any upcoming quiz or exam. Research shows that if you study right before you sleep, you'll have a greater retention rate.
- Read the books for the class at least 3 times. I read the textbook/s for the class at least 3 times. Each time, I find more important things to highlight or underline. Reading the book just once doesn't store all the information in your long term memory (only some geniuses can do that). When you read the book more than once, you don't risk skimming over anything and you retain important details, whether it's history, English, or Cs, this should be your rule.
- Know your basics. I can't stress how important it is to have a strong base, or else you fall behind not only in the class, but several classes behind. You might think that those basics aren't that important, but if you know your basics then the difficult topics won't be that bad.
- Record and transcribe your lectures. I record mostly all the lectures, listen to it as soon as possible, and write down almost everything the professor has said. My logic is that your professor is the one who makes the exams. If you have in writing his or her entire lecture, you now know what he or she stressed, what is important to them, what wording they'll use, and a lot of other hints that one doesn't usually catch during the lecture.
- Go to class. Try not to skip class. (Reason above^)
- Practice math problems out of many books. For math classes, don't do problems just out of one book. Do every single problem out of 3-4 books, and ask your TA about any problems you don't understand. Also, don't look at the solution manual too often. Attempt math problems 8+ times, and then if you absolutely have no idea how to do it, check the solutions.
- Start studying before the semester/quarter begins. In either case you have 1-3 weeks of break. Instead of JUST partying (by the emphasis on just I'm implying to have fun too), study for your classes before they even begin. Get ahead at least half the course outline.
- Find a place where your most productive studying takes place. For me, it's usually places where other students are studying too. I feel focused to a higher degree when people around me are focused as well. Not everyone is like that. I have a friend you doesn't like studying outside at all, she feels most productive while studying at home. Find your place.
- Do many sample exams. 5 days before any exam, go online and find as many midterms you can about that subject matter from many universities.
- Study more than one subject a day. Don't spend the entire day studying one subject. Keep switching every 3-4 hours.
- Exercise at least 1 hour a day. When you exercise, blood rushes to your brain and you gain a ton of knowledge in your next study session faster than before.
- Make friends with most of your class. They will be a huge support during study sessions, problem sets, and it's always fun to have friends studying with you.
- When you're studying, be happy. Genuinely feel thankful and excited that you have the opportunity to gain all that wonderful knowledge from that magnificent book and from that amazing professor. Enjoy every moment that you have to learn something new. You'll truly thrive then.
- Eat healthy. If you're up till 2 am studying, skip eating a chocolate bar or drinking a red bull. These products will only make you slower in the long run. Eat a fruit, cereal, or something else healthy whenever you have the urge to eat some processed foods to gain back some energy. Also, eat fish. The DHA is great for your brain. Another thing, don't diet. Your brain can't work if it's starving.
- Desire it. If you really want A's, then no curve in the world can prevent you from getting them. If you desire it enough, it'll take over your mind, body, brain until it'll be all that you think about. And statistics show that successful people think about their goals most of the time.
- Work hard, but enjoy your college experience too. Unless you're planning on going to Harvard Medical or Law, have some fun every week. Visit the beach, go to the mountains, throw a party.
- Read the syllabus and visit your prof during office hours to figure out exactly how to get an A: This one was the Secret Sauce for me. Common wisdom is: do all of the reading, go to class, study and you'll get good grades. You'll find that this approach is not optimal for every class. Some classes you should focus mainly on the reading, others you can all but ignore the reading, others still you should put nearly all of your effort into the essays. The prof won't directly tell you this though, the clues will be in the syllabus or freely given to you just by asking. View all of this information as your roadmap from day 1 for each course, don't just mindlessly follow the other steps.
- Start studying a week before your exams. Start writing your essays a week before they are due: The alternative is the night before like most people. Doing it at a reasonable pace for a week and simply reviewing the night before is far more productive. Also less stressful.
- Relax
I don't particularly care about academic achievement since getting As does not translate to future success in life. I did half of these and still maintain a decent GPA. But, if I want to get all As, this is what I'd do.
Dang man, Respect ✊Dealing with the nutty power structure. You pay them and they torture you. I could never reconcile that.
Also, the stress without a support network. If you don't drink or otherwise self medicate yourself, figure something out. I didn't. I just "dealt" with the stress and it almost did me in my P3 year (I also worked 32 hours a week to support myself and my wife...dumb idea in retrospect). Now keep in mind, I literally grew up with crack users for parents...and I consider my time in pharmacy school to be the most traumatic of my life. I used to come home from elementary school and see random dudes laying on the couch, passed out, crack pipe on the table. I actually went into live crack dens to get my car keys after my stepdaddy stole my car for the 40th time. All that **** doesn't even bother me today.
But I sure as **** had nightmares about pharmacy school for a solid 2-3 years after I graduated. But not my bizarre childhood. That's how PTSD that **** can be. I wish I was exaggerating.
It's something pharmacy schools should look at. I'm not alone. A lot of people get overstressed and shut down. I just stopped caring. And I told no less than a dozen classmates and 4 or 5 professors that I just didn't care about school anymore. Nobody thought...oh, hey, maybe this dude is suffering from some crazy anxiety.
Instead, they determined I had behavior problems and force fed me Adderall.
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tl;dr: Pharmacy school is worse than living in a crack house. If you get stressed out to the point where it affects you, seek help.