What does it take to land that harvard/yale residency? grades? or networking?
Harvard/Yale residency
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just tell them you secretly want to be an MD and once you complete your dpm degree if you can get 4.0 gpa and board passes then they might even give you your very own backdoor MD! FROM HARVAD/YALE omg
just tell them you secretly want to be an MD and once you complete your dpm degree if you can get 4.0 gpa and board passes then they might even give you your very own backdoor MD! FROM HARVAD/YALE omg
Ok come on really now??? 😡 ... this is a serious question ... like your cool and everything man ( despite the hatred people have for you on this forum lol)... but you should be able when to differentiate between fun and serious times..
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LOL god forbid "the forum" doesnt think im cool because you know, i find my identity here!, just kidding I was trying to get a rise out of you and boom mission accomplished...another day at the forums...god i love this place haha
in all seriousness I do not know the answer to this question because I am a prepod...so I will not answer(air weed you are welcome) ....so to the rest of the forum and you sir godfather...carry on...
in all seriousness I do not know the answer to this question because I am a prepod...so I will not answer(air weed you are welcome) ....so to the rest of the forum and you sir godfather...carry on...
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It's no different than landing a spot at Henry Ford Macomb, DMC, West Penn, East Orlando or any of the other 250+ residency programs out there. Yale has a fairly good reputation, I have a couple of friends/classmates that are headed there, but I think the general consensus on the Cambridge ("Harvard") program is that it's not as top notch as most others. I've heard, and this is ENTIRELY SPECULATION AND HEARSAY, that podiatry is sort of second rate around there due to the fact that it is one of the most prestigous allopathic schools in the world and one of the most academic health care systems in the country.
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Lesson you should take out of the above is that you should strive to achieve the best grades you can in Podiatric Medical School and you should be a well rounded, considerate person. I've heard of more people not getting a residency spot because of their personality than the fact that they are "stupid." Stupidity or lack of knowledge is something that can be overcome, being a prick or an a-hole is something that's a lot tougher to change about yourself. But a minimum amount of smarts are needed to get by, mind you.
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Lesson you should take out of the above is that you should strive to achieve the best grades you can in Podiatric Medical School and you should be a well rounded, considerate person. I've heard of more people not getting a residency spot because of their personality than the fact that they are "stupid." Stupidity or lack of knowledge is something that can be overcome, being a prick or an a-hole is something that's a lot tougher to change about yourself. But a minimum amount of smarts are needed to get by, mind you.
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Okay, so we have grades in podiatry school? For some reason, I thought it was pass/fail and you landed residency based on your board scores, interview, and LORs.
So.. do you receive grades in MD school as well?
So.. do you receive grades in MD school as well?
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I believe at most schools you do... At some, I know you don't ie- Case Western
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Well from my knowledge (and it is just hearsay) you need around a 3.8 gpa at Yale , but if you are really sharp when you extern you might be able to get in with slightly less. Again this is just what i've heard.
Although these are prestigious names that doesn't necessarily mean they are the best training in Podiatry (although i hear Yale is really solid). There are various programs that are listed as top notch, many of which have been discussed ad nauseum on this sight.
Although these are prestigious names that doesn't necessarily mean they are the best training in Podiatry (although i hear Yale is really solid). There are various programs that are listed as top notch, many of which have been discussed ad nauseum on this sight.
Gpa is really a hard thing to compare between the pod schools, though. A 3.8gpa and above at your school might mean top 10-15ppl. At my school, maybe only top 3-5 students will have marks that high. At DMU, maybe no students have a gpa that high. Different grading systems, different curves, class sizes, etc. Class rank and school reputation (not so much gpa) may get you the clerkship rotation or the interview, but with most programs, your externship performance and interview are probably what will get you ranked for a residency spot.
Like all residencies, selectivity varies year to year based on applicant interest and preferences. I'm sure it's no different for Yale and the 3 Harvard affiliated pod residency programs (Cambridge, Man's Greatest Hospital, and House of God). Most of those programs have some well known attendings who are on the ACFAS lecture circuit and/or publish a fair amount.
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http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=572712
thnx for the input soon to be doctor lol!! keep it up feli!
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Just remember that your GPA gets you an externship at a program. It is how well you perform during your externship that gets you a spot at the program. Now that the number of students to spots is essentially 1:1 it will be very hard to get a spot at a program that you didn't spend time externing at.
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I can assure you that the 3.8 GPA requirement is not set in stone, if it exists at all. I know 2 residents at the tail end of their first year and 1 future resident (in July) from my school who go there. All 3 of them are smart and competent but they'll be first to tell you that its not necessarily the grades that would get you the program.
I agree with Feli's and gustydoc's posts regarding the value of performing during externships. I recall discussing this extensively at a topic in the podiatric residents and attendings section. It is definitely worth a read.
On another note, just because the program gives you a certificate from Yale or Harvard, that does not necessarily mean that they guarantee you the best training. Don't get me wrong, they're both quality programs as I have nothing but respect for their attendings and residents. However, when you guys (pre-pods and pre-clinical pod students) get out there on rotations and clerkships, you'll begin to see the big picture and appreciate what you want out of your training. Not all programs are created equally - so it is important to dissect the curriculum of each residency program that you visit to make sure that they best fit YOUR needs prior to investigating your qualifications to compete for that program. Look at things like the quality of the podiatric surgery attendings/facculty, publications, off-service rotations (bigger institutions like the aforementioned ones tend to excel in that department), wound-care (if interested), resident clinic time, academics (ACFAS, Journal club, Workshops, Cadaver labs, etc), trauma, amount and quality of the reconstructive foot/ankle cases, limb-salvage, and other personal factors of course.
The key is to again identify what you want out of your training, investigate which programs offer this training, and spend time at these institutions. I think gustydoc hit the nail on the head with emphasizing this point as the number of spots to applicants ratio approaches 1:1, face time becomes an essential must.
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Many med schools have gone to the pass/fail system but it is still separated in to high pass, pass, fail and somewhere someone is keeping track of grades because you can still graduate w/ summa and magna cum laude and there is a validictorian and saluditorian at almost every school. Also, For MD's and DO's the boards are scored w/ a number and so each student is compared by board scores when it comes to residency placement. It is much more common for an MD/DO student to match with a program based on board scores and a 1-2 day interview w/out a clerkship/externship than for a DPM student.
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