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Ok here's the confusion:

What exactly is the harvard extension school??

would taking classes there before going to an actual smp be helpful?espcially if u dont meet the 2.8 that most smp's require??

if u have done all premed req in under grad and go to the harvard program, what classes should you take to prove that you are doing well and deserve to be in an SMP?

Do you have to be there for a certain amount of time or could you just take a few classes to prove yourself worthy of a real SMP?
 
Ok here's the confusion:

What exactly is the harvard extension school??

Harvard Extension School is part of Harvard University. HES offers a number of classes in various subjects, mostly in the evening, on-line, or, in some cases, on weekends. Most of the classes are considered to be equivalent to typical college undergraduate level (or, in some cases, graduate level), and are recognized by most universities as being eligible for undergrad credit.

The Health Careers Program (HCP) is a program offered by HES geared specifically for those students looking to complete their prerequisites for further professional studies in health care (aka, medical or dental school). They offer the full suite of the typical pre-reqs, including Chemistry, O-Chem, Biology, Physics, Calculus, and even more advanced classes such as Biochemistry, Physiology, et al.

would taking classes there before going to an actual smp be helpful?espcially if u dont meet the 2.8 that most smp's require??

if u have done all premed req in under grad and go to the harvard program, what classes should you take to prove that you are doing well and deserve to be in an SMP?

Do you have to be there for a certain amount of time or could you just take a few classes to prove yourself worthy of a real SMP?

I am not sure why you would consider doing both HCP and an SMP. That seems to be redundant. If you do well in the HCP classes at HES, and score well on the MCAT, you are eligible for sponsorship by HCP's premedical committee on your application to medical school. That essentially accomplishes the same thing as an SMP.

However, it appears you may have a specific situation, so I would suggest contacting the HES HCP program directly. Alternately, there is an information session on the HCP program in September sometime; check the HES web site for details.
 
thank you so much for the great response 🙂 Im gonna take your advice and contact the program!
 
This may be OT, but I am interested in the Harvard Extension in hopes of boosting my GPA. I entered college with no intention of taking graduate courses, but over the years I have gradually accepted my inclination to enter the medical profession. My current major is Chemical Engineering, and I have a 3.395 GPA (slightly less for sciences). From reading these forums I have gathered that my GPA is nowhere near impressive for MD programs in America. Additionally, I need to take a year of biology, and possibly retake (?) the other premed prereqs (I received AP credit for Chem, Calc, and Physics---Is it true that med schools don't like to see AP courses even if subsequent courses are taken?).

Anyway, I understand that for an undergrad degree, Harvard is a pretty good 🙂)) school, but how reputable is their post-bacc program?

And on another note, how reputable is any post-bacc program? Is it actually possible for me to change my career goals this late in the game and come out successful?

Any information would be helpful---I have a meeting scheduled with my school's pre-med office in a few weeks, but I'd like to gather as many opinions as possible----Thanks!
 
This may be OT, but I am interested in the Harvard Extension in hopes of boosting my GPA. I entered college with no intention of taking graduate courses, but over the years I have gradually accepted my inclination to enter the medical profession. My current major is Chemical Engineering, and I have a 3.395 GPA (slightly less for sciences). From reading these forums I have gathered that my GPA is nowhere near impressive for MD programs in America. Additionally, I need to take a year of biology, and possibly retake (?) the other premed prereqs (I received AP credit for Chem, Calc, and Physics---Is it true that med schools don't like to see AP courses even if subsequent courses are taken?).

Anyway, I understand that for an undergrad degree, Harvard is a pretty good 🙂)) school, but how reputable is their post-bacc program?

And on another note, how reputable is any post-bacc program? Is it actually possible for me to change my career goals this late in the game and come out successful?

Any information would be helpful---I have a meeting scheduled with my school's pre-med office in a few weeks, but I'd like to gather as many opinions as possible----Thanks!

So, to answer your questions as best as I can (and I'm no expert):

First, many students enter medical school from post-bacc programs. Med schools have found that students who, regardless of major, do well in undergrad, do well in their post-bacc studies, and do well on the MCAT, are prepared academically for the rigors of medical school.

Harvard Extension's HCP has a very good reputation among post-bacc programs. I cannot say exactly how it is ranked compared with other programs, or how much of an edge it gives you compared with doing it at other universities. However, at roughly $900/course, HCP is undoubtedly cheaper than many other similar programs.

One bit of advice: make sure your pre-med advisor is aware of HES. The term "extension school" can have many different meanings, not all of which correspond to academic rigor. Again, HES is well regarded among medical school admission folks.

I don't think the AP credit will be an issue given your major, especially with regards to Chem and Calc. However, you should check with your advisor and the various med schools you may be considering. Some schools do sometimes have quirky rules with regards to pre-reqs. On a related note, some also have rules with regards to the "aging" of your pre-reqs.

It is possible to improve your chances by retaking some of your earlier classes in post-bacc. Med schools, particularly DO schools, do give weight to post-bacc performance. Plus, you will have your MCAT; a good score there, along with a solid post-bacc GPA, will go a long way to helping your cause.
 
my question really is tho:

if i have already completed my pre-med stuff at a university and my undergrad gpa blows, should i still go to harvards program and work hard and then apply for their sponsorship? if I retake all my premed with them and do better, how will that average in with the premed stuff i have already taken? or should i not even bother that and just go there and take harder upper levels to show I can do it? will those add to my undergrad gpa? im so confused....
 
At DO schools, your new grades would replace your old grades. For MD schools, they both will count.

If you have a C+ or below in any pre-reqs, I suggest you retake them. After that, start taking upper level biology courses until your GPA gets to where you want it to be.
 
At DO schools, your new grades would replace your old grades. For MD schools, they both will count.

If you have a C+ or below in any pre-reqs, I suggest you retake them. After that, start taking upper level biology courses until your GPA gets to where you want it to be.


All this should be done where? at the harvard program or just all in undergrad? Did you say earlier that you had a sponsorship from harvard? How hard is it to get them to sponsor you after you take their classes?
 
I do not have a sponsorship from Harvard - I do not even attend Harvard. I am seriously considering attending next year for their upper level stuff.

And you can do it at any four year school you like. I advise you to do it where you think you have the best chance to pull off that 4.0.
 
I do not have a sponsorship from Harvard - I do not even attend Harvard. I am seriously considering attending next year for their upper level stuff.

And you can do it at any four year school you like. I advise you to do it where you think you have the best chance to pull off that 4.0.


That makes sense. I read on here that their program really prepares you very well for the MCAT because it is taught so well...that was my main attraction to it to be honest. I want to retake premed stuff because I did not take the time to really learn it I just did enough to get by (hence why my gpa blows) so I want to go somewhere where I will raelly learn it and be dealing with awesome professors who really know how to teach the material in the best way possible. I have heard very good things about their program so yeah, I have been heavily considering it and then afterwards either trying for their sponsorship or getting to a SMP.
 
Maybe I didn't read it correctly, but are you still eligible for the HCP if you have already taken the core courses? Or are you just eligible for the HES?😕
 
Maybe I didn't read it correctly, but are you still eligible for the HCP if you have already taken the core courses? Or are you just eligible for the HES?😕


from my understanding, yes u are eligible. u have to have taken the premeds to get harvard's sponsorship...in addition to the courses you have to have taken ur mcats too...
 
Maybe I didn't read it correctly, but are you still eligible for the HCP if you have already taken the core courses? Or are you just eligible for the HES?😕

You are not eligible for the diploma program if you have taken any of the core pre-reqs before. You are eligible for sponsorship even if you've taken some or all of the pre-reqs - the specific criteria for sponsorship depends on your gpa coming in (for more details on that go look at the hcp site).
 
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