Has anyone ever faked an illness to make up for attendance?

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Well I got behind in a class, and I didn't have my homework or anything done and dreaded going in empty handed so skipped thinking I would have had time to catch up by next meeting. I have been overworked at my job basically every day and didn't have any time to so skipped another, then got more behind and skipped another.

Now I am up to 4 absenses in a row so I am going to call into work tomorow because screw them I need to catch up on school and if this ridiculous scheduling continues I'll probably quit without notice because I am exhausted.

This class has an attendance policy and I'm sure the professor is getting annoyed and won't be happy to help me catch up at this point. I'm thinking about just saying I was extremely sick and supply an old doctors note I just change the dates on photoshop.

I know everyone will probably say thats so unethical, you shouldn't have skipped, blah blah blah. But can they really ever tell since it's protected patient info anyway?

As expected I got crucifued for asking.
 
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Don’t fake it then. Commit. By that I mean go to the hospital you volunteer/work at and just lick the floors of different rooms and I’ll bet you get pseudomonas. Then get a doctors note. Profit???

If that wasn’t an obvious joke, don’t do it.
 
In all honesty I have done this before, but just for one day, a couple semesters ago. I had a GI bug and knew the doctor would be useless so just changed the dates on an old note and it worked, did the same at my job.

I guess I am struggling a little with the ethicacy of this one but I am so behind in this one class from work. It has so much work and is just a dumb gen-ed I need to transfer.

I'm wondering if they really wanted to if they could call?
 
This is an extremely dumb idea just take time off from work / quit if you have to and do what you need to do to catch up in class. Or drop the class and take the W if leaving the job is not an option.

Even if it’s worked before, stop doing this. Getting caught once May end your career forever depending on what the discipline is.
 
This is an extremely dumb idea just take time off from work / quit if you have to and do what you need to do to catch up in class. Or drop the class and take the W if leaving the job is not an option.

Even if it’s worked before, stop doing this. Getting caught once May end your career forever depending on what the discipline is.

Not an option.
 
1 day is one thing but this class meet Tues/Thursday and its like wth am I gonna say has kept me sick for 2 weeks? I would feel bad making up something drastic.
 
1 day is one thing but this class meet Tues/Thursday and its like wth am I gonna say has kept me sick for 2 weeks? I would feel bad making up something drastic.

Give yourself pneumonia like I said and you should be good for a month.
 
"I have HIV and get really sick sometimes." sounds realistic but pretty disrespectful to that community I feel, and also pretty embarrassing lol.

"I got liposuction and caught an infection." is just as much if not more embarrassing lolololol
 
"I have HIV and get really sick sometimes." sounds realistic but pretty disrespectful to that community I feel, and also pretty embarrassing lol.

"I got liposuction and caught an infection." is just as much if not more embarrassing lolololol

Alright now you’re not even trying to keep this troll reasonable.
 
It looks like you have already made up your mind about what you're going to do. I know it's wrong, you know it's wrong, everyone else who commented know it's wrong. Do it if you really want to, but know that you, and only you, are going to have to accept the consequence if caught. The consequence would most likely put your entire career at risk forever.
 
It looks like you have already made up your mind about what you're going to do. I know it's wrong, you know it's wrong, everyone else who commented know it's wrong. Do it if you really want to, but know that you, and only you, are going to have to accept the consequence if caught. The consequence would most likely put your entire career at risk forever.

That sounds like a huge exagerration.

It seems like it's pretty impossible to get caught unless it looks obviously fake. I'm not sure if doctors offices can verify their notes?
 
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That sounds like a huge exagerration.

It seems like it's pretty imossible to get caught unless it looks obviously fake. I'm not sure if doctors offices can verify their notes?

You're right in thinking that the doctor will not be able to release patient's information to a third party if asked (i.e. your professor). However, the doctor would likely answer their question in the affirmative, that is, have you been in their office at X date. And confirm if the note was actually written by them.

It is certainly not an exaggeration to say an academic dishonesty from faking a doctor's note to skip classes (that taken attendance) would affect your medical aspiration.
 
You're right in thinking that the doctor will not be able to release patient's information to a third party if asked (i.e. your professor). However, the doctor would likely answer their question in the affirmative, that is, have you been in their office at X date. And confirm if the note was actually written by them.

It is certainly not an exaggeration to say an academic dishonesty from faking a doctor's note to skip classes (that taken attendance) would affect your medical aspiration.

OK
 
When you lie about your health to academically benefit yourself, you do so at the expense of people who have legitimate health-related excuses. When feigning illness becomes a common practice at a university, instructors become more skeptical and put a heavier burden of proof on students. In this sort of environment, a hospitalized student with pneumonia who might've otherwise been taken at his word instead has to send in documentation and maybe even ask a nurse to email the instructor.

You may think that feigning illness is just a harmless way to catch up with classes, but when you contribute to the deterioration of a community of trust, the innocent people around you always incur a cost.

Also, just so you know, when you change important information on a doctor's note and submit it as if it were legitimate, you are committing forgery. It's an extremely serious offense, and if you're caught, being barred from medical school would be the least of your worries.

I hope you grow up and make better choices in the future.
 
I need it to transfer to a 4-year university this fall.

Then quit the job and focus on this class. Grow up and catch up. The pace will be faster in med school if you get that far, here’s your chance to audition. Don’t risk ur career on something as silly as this.
 
Then quit the job and focus on this class. Grow up and catch up. The pace will be faster in med school if you get that far, here’s your chance to audition. Don’t risk ur career on something as silly as this.

u right u right
 
This class has an attendance policy and I'm sure the professor is getting annoyed and won't be happy to help me catch up at this point. I'm thinking about just saying I was extremely sick and supply an old doctors note I just change the dates on photoshop.

I know everyone will probably say thats so unethical, you shouldn't have skipped, blah blah blah. But can they really ever tell since it's protected patient info anyway?

No, they probably won't be able to tell that the note is forged. Furthermore, this is so unimportant in your professor's life s/he would probably never care enough to even look into this. If this is actually not a troll post, then I urge you to make good judgement. Take a second to consider the risks (huge) vs benefits (minimal).
 
No, they probably won't be able to tell that the note is forged. Furthermore, this is so unimportant in your professor's life s/he would probably never care enough to even look into this. If this is actually not a troll post, then I urge you to make good judgement. Take a second to consider the risks (huge) vs benefits (minimal).

Risks = Remote
Consequences = Moderate to severe depending what enforcement descretion they exercised.*
Benefits = I basically have to come up with something at this point for the already missed 4 days.

*Very doubtful thy would pursue legal action, it just sounds ridiculous. Like cmon now.

If it makes any difference - I see how some people could do this to benifit by gaining unfair time for a big exam, or even waiting for people to take it so they can ask what's on it, etc. This is not one of those cases at all.
 
Risks = Remote
Consequences = Moderate to severe depending what enforcement descretion they exercised.
Benefits = I basically have to come up with something at this point for the already missed 4 days.
Your signature is quite ironic 😛 "Inspiration is for amateurs. The rest of us just show up and get to work."

Best of luck to you.
 
Ok so I just opened my emails from him (which I have been avoiding because I was too scared) and the last one sure enough says how I have missed a lot of class but he is taking into account how I have taken the class before and wont penalize me per the syllabus (yes, I withdrew from it last spring because of a lot of personal issues)

So it seems I overreacted. It's not that bad.
 
Well I got behind in a class, and I didn't have my homework or anything done and dreaded going in empty handed so skipped thinking I would have had time to catch up by next meeting. I have been overworked at my job basically every day and didn't have any time to so skipped another, then got more behind and skipped another.

Now I am up to 4 absenses in a row so I am going to call into work tomorow because screw them I need to catch up on school and if this ridiculous scheduling continues I'll probably quit without notice because I am exhausted.

This class has an attendance policy and I'm sure the professor is getting annoyed and won't be happy to help me catch up at this point. I'm thinking about just saying I was extremely sick and supply an old doctors note I just change the dates on photoshop.

I know everyone will probably say thats so unethical, you shouldn't have skipped, blah blah blah. But can they really ever tell since it's protected patient info anyway?
Stay classy
 
Former TA here.

Yes, it happens. It's not common, but there are certain times during the semester where everyone is too sick to come to class (i.e. the morning after Halloween). Same goes for having a grandmother pass away unexpectedly. Premeds also will lie and say they didn't see assignments X, Y, and Z due on D2L/Blackboard/Whatever your school uses, despite the rest of the class seeing it. When we look at their account activity, we see they haven't even logged in for the past two weeks...

Edit: Just saw that this is for work. My bad.
 
I did this in high school....
But i never once forged a note.
 
Risks = Remote
Consequences = Moderate to severe depending what enforcement descretion they exercised.*
Benefits = I basically have to come up with something at this point for the already missed 4 days.

*Very doubtful thy would pursue legal action, it just sounds ridiculous. Like cmon now.

If it makes any difference - I see how some people could do this to benifit by gaining unfair time for a big exam, or even waiting for people to take it so they can ask what's on it, etc. This is not one of those cases at all.
You can cheat which is what forging a doctors' note is when it is done for a class. It goes in the "academic dishonesty" bucket. You can get an IA for academic dishonesty. Now a med school adcom will ask itself, "what would we do if one of our medical students did this? What if someone forged a doctor's note to get out of attending class sessions or clinical assignments?" Well, we sure wouldn't want someone who does that in our house. It is such a headache to deal with a person who is dishonest. You begin to wonder if they will fake other documents and even put patients and other practioners in jeopardy by lying to cover something they did or didn't do. So, the consequences are pretty severe if you are issued an IA in this instance. It is severe enough that you may never be admitted to any medical school worth the name.
 
I mean, only you know what's in your heart and what this means for what kind of person you are, your integrity, and if you are really doing the best you can for your own survival with work, as well as working towards medical school. Basically, how fair or justifiable it might be to do this. Sorta like someone who steals bread when they are starving. But was this unavoidable? Is this the only way to cope with the problem? What will you do in the future not to repeat this offence?

I mean, some people have lied for medical insurance or food stamps, because they truly needed those things and working more than they already were would not solve those problems for them.

The main issue as I see it, is it doesn't sound like you are in the "perfect storm" of things.

The big issue, is that you're on a slippery slope. You have to use good judgement for when you're going to break rules, rules that could have big consequences, acts that are not entirely ethical even if there might be some sort of ethical argument for (like the example I gave). As someone noted, you have to answer to yourself, you are the only person to know when and why you do these things, unless you're caught. That judgement is what determines if you are in fact caught, like if you do this too much too often too stupidly. That judgement is the only thing protecting you from harm, ultimately. What does this say about your judgement?

Getting into a pattern or starting to think this is going to be a way for you to deal with balancing things to meet requirements, when the road just gets harder, is only going to bite you one day. It's Russian roulette. So sure, you've pulled the trigger a few times. But the more you pull that trigger, the more likely it is one day that you catch a bullet.

When you break the rules, when you feel like you have to do what's wrong, when you are taking a chance like this, the big thing to ask yourself before doing something like this, is are you going to be able to never do this again? If you can't say that and keep to that, then best not do it now. If you do allow yourself to do this, I really hope that it hurts your soul a little and that this will mark the beginning of a lesson learned and a change in behaviour, a promise to yourself not to do this again, a promise that isn't empty, that you will be able to keep.

I guess in my mind, I'm only able to absolve myself for lapses when they are in fact lapses. That means making sacrifices in the future not to do it again. To do my best so this sort of thing is rare, and that I've honestly done all I can to avoid it in the future. What will you do for this to be the last time you ever do this?

I'm not going to judge you for what you've done or what you plan to do. But, you are not doing yourself any favours. I hope that you can do better in the future, for your own sake.

ETA: And yes, if this is ever found out or you do anything similar in the future and are caught, your career could be over before it starts. This is true for SO many things. You need to be as upstanding as you can be, in every way. So many reasons for that to be true. Everything you do that is breaking rules can ultimately destroy a career in medicine. Dishonesty above all. You can be forgiven SO many things that could otherwise destroy you, despite what I just said, if you are honest.

The hope for any future physician, is that you carry a sincere desire for honesty, integrity, responsibility. And everyone on the road to being a physician makes mistakes and does things they are not proud of. Yes, really. No one is perfect. However, you need a strong moral compass for so many reasons, not the least of which is for patients, but also yourself. Don't you want to do your best so that you never have to lie if you did so? So you never have to put everything you've ever worked for on the line? So that you can feel proud of your conduct, so that others can trust you with their lives? Imposter syndrome is real, and it hurts, it happens to and hurts even people that are a step above psychopath and even have tendencies towards being laissez faire.

This has to stop happening in your life.
 
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"I have HIV and get really sick sometimes." sounds realistic but pretty disrespectful to that community I feel, and also pretty embarrassing lol.

"I got liposuction and caught an infection." is just as much if not more embarrassing lolololol

You deserve to get caught for cheating and get an IA on your record. You're not only dishonest but also insensitive. Definitely not someone I'd ever want to have as a colleague.
 
Go to the professor and be honest. Tell them you’ve been busy and stressed with work. Otherwise, just accept the grade deduction and try to focus on this class.

Don’t lie. Why risk your career for something as silly as this?!
 
Seriously, just tell the professor that your work has been unreasonably stressful and that you've fallen behind and you're very sorry about that. And then express to the professor that you still want to try in the class and ask for help on how to catch up. It's still roughly the first half of the semester, so I am sure the professor will be inclined to help if you genuinely seem like you want to make up for your absences and properly learn the material. Nearly every college student has skipped classes before for non-health reasons, so it's not this huge shameful act that needs to be covered up by fabricating a doctor's note. Just own up and figure out a way to make up for it.

Also, I highly doubt your professor notices your absences on any personal level, they have better things to think about.

It also sounds like you really need to scale back your work commitments.
 
If your job prevents you from doing homework for 2 weeks and your goal is to get into med school you need to quit that job.

Calling in sick could be considered a little more ethically ambiguous, but forging a doctor's note? Are you serious?
 
How do some of you guys end up in situations like these and then you say you want to go to medical school where you will be competing with people who are squeaky clean?

Just trying to be real here for a moment but these types of threads are cute and funny to answer but 99.99% of medical school matriculants in this country at least do not engage in this type of behavior or find themselves in precarious situations that are in danger of being documented.

So if you have to ask a question like this, chances are the only advice you're going to be needing is how to say "paper or plastic."
 
True story:

In 1988, I'd missed so many BORING English lit classes, that my professor pulled me aside and said that if I missed one more day (I'd been feigning sickness, illness, etc.), he'd fail me for the course. I was past the drop deadline.

I kid you not, the next day... my grandmother died, the only one I ever knew. He failed me. Despite that I had the obit and copy of the death certificate.

Lesson learned? Don't skip class.
 
How do some of you guys end up in situations like these and then you say you want to go to medical school where you will be competing with people who are squeaky clean?

Just trying to be real here for a moment but these types of threads are cute and funny to answer but 99.99% of medical school matriculants in this country at least do not engage in this type of behavior or find themselves in precarious situations that are in danger of being documented.

So if you have to ask a question like this, chances are the only advice you're going to be needing is how to say "paper or plastic."

Yikes I must keep bad company. I don't think that statistic is even close to true though. So many underage drink, smoke weed (or take molly) at parties, etc.
 
What do you mean? By posting it on SDN?

I was going to answer by telling you to not apply to medical school but it's late and I will instead explain the earlier response.

"Danger of being documented" was referring to doing something stupid, like the activity you are currently engaged in, and then getting caught where the act can be documented and put on your record. You had also brought up the idea that some pre-meds engage in illegal activity for which most of them don't get caught.

The idea here is to be as squeaky clean as possible because those are the students who actually get an acceptance letter.

A lot of you guys need to simply attend an all-afternoon open-house at some medical school and mingle with some real medical students. I have a feeling that will open your eyes a little as to what a successful applicant looks like. If you're coming onto SDN and asking about institutional actions, then medical school is not in your future.
 
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