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My next module is on Anatomy, Pathology and histology 😱 I am sought of preparing ahead, and wanted to know what others reccomend. Like which texts to use? Nitrile vs Latex gloves, is it worth the price? Basically what you found helpful, when taking this subjects.

Thanks.
 
Nflow said:
My next module is on Anatomy, Pathology and histology 😱 I am sought of preparing ahead, and wanted to know what others reccomend. Like which texts to use? Nitrile vs Latex gloves, is it worth the price? Basically what you found helpful, when taking this subjects.

Thanks.

Anatomy: Must use nitrile, don't even THINK about not using them... I use Netter's and grants dissector, netters flash cards, and CD, and several good websites including the U-Mich anatomy site, and the loyola site which were helpful.

Some people would rather have an actual anatomy textbook to readfrom, netter's really is just 500 pictures....

Practice, practice, practice, watch prosections online before even going to lecture, and figure out how you learn. Some people learn more in lab, others just pour over there notes, I use the flash cards and the CD to just drill drill drill.

Good luck!
 
I've got the Moore Daily textbook which I basically only use to look information up and look at the tables and pictures (our school is very objectives based learning)... for the other stuff I use:
NITRILE GLOVES!!!! (and double glove, it really helps with the smell on your hands)
Clemente Atlas (love the muscle tables), Netter note cards, Netter CD (handy when I want to compare to clemente), and get a rohen, it's nice to see the real pictures.

I would agree with the previous post. Just practice practice practice. Go into lab a LOT and look at other bodies. The people who are doing the best in our class are in there at least every other day outside of scheduled lab looking at other bodies. Try to read the dissector before hand so you know what's going on.

Also, try to find a bunch of people to buy nitrile gloves from a supply store (www.buyemp.com) and they'll be considerably cheaper by the case rather than buying online... just an idea from what some of us did... oh yeah, remember Oh Oh Oh To Touch and.... 😉 I'll let you finish that when you get to head and neck 🙂 good luck, you'll have a great time!
 
Nflow said:
My next module is on Anatomy, Pathology and histology 😱 I am sought of preparing ahead, and wanted to know what others reccomend. Like which texts to use? Nitrile vs Latex gloves, is it worth the price? Basically what you found helpful, when taking this subjects.

Thanks.

Nitrile gloves.

Netters atlas for Anatomy. I've heard Grant's atlas is good. Moore's anatomy textbook is good but lots of details. Good reference book. Learn to live in the lab. Learn off of different cadavers. It's amazing the variation among cadaveric subjects. Find a study partner. medicalmnemonics.com is a good site. Don't leave your gloves in the anatomy lab, or others will use them. When you think you've gotten rid of the smell off your body, think again.

Wheater's Histology atlas is about all you need for Histology.

Path grid book. Baby Robbins is the bible for Path. I use it for reference mostly. Again, lots of details that aren't covered in class.
 
we double-glove with some kind of cheap non-latex and they work fine - don't need nitrile. I use a coat of vaseline first (before the first glove) - no smell at all.

get scrubs or old clothes that you will never use for anything else again
find an old pair of shoes
use your oldest underwear, throw them out after lab
you will go through lots of scalpel blades in the first couple of weeks - start with 20 (10 small, 10 large)

I personally don't learn anything during the dissection itself - I have to go back later and look at everything. Doing this with one other person works better than four.

Rohen for sure - order it now
U Michigan gross anatomy web site is excellent
I couldn't really understand Moore until I had already dissected the structures. But the intro chapter is good.
 
Thanks Guys. I just got the Netters Atlas and Rohen's Text, but didn't get the CD. So I might go out and buy that. Definitely will be getting the nitrile gloves also. I just hope I have the time to spend in the lab, since I will be taking Pathology and Histology also.
 
Nflow said:
Thanks Guys. I just got the Netters Atlas and Rohen's Text, but didn't get the CD. So I might go out and buy that. Definitely will be getting the nitrile gloves also. I just hope I have the time to spend in the lab, since I will be taking Pathology and Histology also.


Ummm I may get flamed for saying this... but maybe you could burn or "share" the CD from someone? If this is breaking some SDN rule to mention I apologize. Or you could, I suppose, literally share it.

i think with purchase of a NEW netters, you should be able to get a deal on the CD>
 
Rohen is key...also look at many different bodies (as someone else mentioned.) also, memorize and draw the brachial plexus over and over and over again.
as for histology--spend a lot of time with the slides, and even look at other ppl's slides. the more time you spend with the slides and cadavers, the better. the thing about both anatomy and histology is they are "imprecise." nothing is going to look like what you studied, so forget about "clear and distinct knowledge." that is, its not like other science classes where you are certain of the answer. think of these subjects in the same way that you think of the verbal mcat...you have to think creatively/artistically (ie "what could this be...")
good luck!
 
i think the regular latex gloves are fine... i use them, no vasoline, no double-gloving, and i dissect for 2 hours at a time, and i've never noticed the "tingling" that some have noted or the smell. (if you're as obsessive compulsive as i am about washing hands, you won't notice much of the smell after leaving the lab.)

as for textbooks, i wouldn't buy the dissector. the instructors walking around tell you what to do anyway, and you really don't need more than 1 dissector (Grant) per group. the Netter atlas is ok; it's bright and colorful, but i find it a little too comical and difficult to flip through to find a specific structure (b/c it's so thick). i don't like the Grant atlas; there's too much shading and the pictures are dark, and so can be difficult to read. there are some of the photo dissection atlases that you might consider. obviously, they would be more "realistic" than the cartoons in Netter or Grant. instead of getting an atlas, you might also consider the Netter flashcard. now, i don't know the details that the cards have, but it's much easier to bring a stack of cards (and you can pick out just the ones you want) into the lab than carrying the regular phonebook-sized atlas. there are some websites for dissection and radiological imaging that you can look at, and the school will probably tell you more about it later. last thing about anatomy i would suggest is to not fall into the trap of comparing your cadaver to the pictures in the atlas; no one's body will look like that... sometimes you just have to rely on the relationships (e.g., ulnar nerve off the brachial plexus runs anteriorly and along median nerve, then courses behind medial epicondyle, resurfaces between flexor muscles, etc.). if you know that, then you would be able to easily identify the structures on other cadavers as well.
 
I don't like Rohen at all, especially in the lab. Way too many things are labeled. Think of your atlas as a guide. Netter is clearer so then you can look at the body and figure things out. Look at various cadavers and spending some quality time in there before the practical will pull everything together. You will know much more anatomy than you think you do. Overall, I think it's one of the easier classes.

I used Latex at first, and then switched to nitrile. Post lab hand smell went down from 6 hours to virtually none. Definitely double glove. I like nitrile under and latex over. UMich website is good and UW Madison has decent dissection videos.

For Histology, BU has a pretty good website, but I don't use it since our school has their slides online now. U Iowa has a great website as well.
 
What is the difference between Baby robbins and the new Pathologic Basis of Disease?
 
Nflow said:
What is the difference between Baby robbins and the new Pathologic Basis of Disease?

baby robbins is a condensed version of big robbins...not as much detail... but detailed enough to do very well on the boards. still it's 800 pgs...so it's a big baby.

i've been reading big robbins and it's long, boring, but informative. it's what the whole nation is using...so i use it, but you don't have to.
 
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