MA/MS HELP! Desperately need some guidance/advice please

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Sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong location but I seriously could use some help and guidance from you all. I'm halfway through my first year in a terminal masters program in general psychology. The first semester was a bit of a transition but I made it alright and got all A's. I also established a good relationship with my PI/mentor. However, I noticed that I wasn't as happy or content as I thought I would be in this program and/or at this particular university. It wasn't my top choice for a number of reasons but I was glad to be back in school, learning new things, and finally making a step towards my future. I came to believe that things would get better, i.e. my mood and happiness would improve and I would just be able to deal with things better.

Some background: I come from a really horrible family situation where a lot of bad things happened to me. I experienced a lot of trauma and one of the mistakes I made in picking this program was selecting a program that is so close to home. It has caused more problems and more stress for me ever since I've been here. I desperately needed to get away from here but I didn't get into the PhD programs that I was interested in (which were all far away) and this was really my only option if I wanted to continue my education. I have tried to stay away from that bad home environment but the same people that I'm trying to get away from are making getting out (or breaking away) incredibly hard.

I didn't have anywhere to go for Winter Break so I reluctantly went back home and unfortunately endured a very, very traumatic experience that has been hard for me to recover from. It was a horrific life-threatening situation and that caused a lot of emotional and psychological pain that only made the feelings of unhappiness and stress even worse. That was the tipping point in a very bad, dysfunctional, and dangerous situation and family environment and I'm desperately trying to make it so I never have to experience anything like that again.

After experiencing that, I returned to school but I'm finding it near impossible to concentrate on my work and commit myself to doing a thesis. My advisor, while great and very helpful (though he doesn't know about what I experienced because I didn't want him to think that I couldn't handle the responsibilities and opportunities that he has given me), is not really using the population that I want to study and use in my thesis and future work. We recently worked on a poster together and it was really hard to get motivated but I powered through it, submitted it, but I made some mistakes that I think may have hurt my relationship with my advisor. That, along with the fact that my project is not going to get accepted for reasons that I can't go into made me sink into an even deeper hole.

The reason why I'm posting on here because I feel like I'm reeling and spiraling and I don't know how to deal with this feeling. Everything seems impossible. I can't even look at the beginning of my thesis stuff without wanting to throw up my hands and say "screw everything". I know I'm mostly feeling this way because of recent personal events but I'm trying to do some re-evaluating and make some life changes but I feel like I have no one to talk to, no one who can give me hug when I need it or who I can really go to about what has been going on. I've started therapy and I think it will be helpful but school has been this battle and I'm really trying to fight and deal with everything, and it's amazing that I'm managing to keep up with my TA and Research Assistant duties. I'm trying to get out of a toxic home/family situation and find another place to stay (which is adding even more stress because my lease is almost up and I have nowhere to go) all while trying to do projects and work on my thesis. I feel overwhelmed and it sucks because it's not even entirely school related. I get up in the morning and just go through the motions.

What can I do right now to get back on track? Everything is going wrong in my life and I just would like some guidance and advice on how to make it through this. I don't want to leave my program because I want to get my masters, plus I've already paid for this semester. Transferring also won't work right now. Should I decide not to do a thesis in an effort to cut down on stress? Will my chances of going on to a PhD or different degree program be harmed if I decide not to do a thesis?
 
This is much more of a mental health question than it is a professional question. These are great questions for your therapist.

I will say that a masters that doesn't have a research component wont help your app to clinical psych phd programs.
 
res9918,

Sounds like you're going through a lot...good thing you're in therapy (smart move).

Regarding the questions you posed:
1) What can you do to get back on track? FOCUS - if you're having problems with memory & concentration....well, you'll have someone to help with that, right? I finished
my terminal masters in general psych (before starting a PhD program) in 1.5 yrs. So some advice: Don't drag out that masters. I went summers and plowed thru while working full-time.
2) I never did a masters' thesis and it didn't hurt my chances (but probably b/c my day job was pure clinical research).
3) erg923 is right...this is a forum to support each other professionally and academically, so advice will be limited here. However, I can commiserate with how distracting family can be, whether our families of origin or the families we make as adults. With that said, remember if you are considering a doctorate in psych/in a master's program, you are most likely the latter (an adult), therefore you are much more in control of your actions, life and direction than you may be giving yourself credit for... I'm all about existentialism, internal locus of control and perservance...to fulfill (what I considered) intrinsic goals. See if those ideas sit well with you...as this is the only advice I can offer having struggled in the past with being torn in many directions during graduate school myself. Good Luck!
 
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Thank you for your responses. Yes, I realize that these issues are more personal than school related. I guess I'm trying to figure out how to deal with some of the stress (at least the school-related stress) and balance the masters stuff while I make strides to address some of the more personal issues.

My memory is ok and my concentration has been getting better (slowly) as time goes on. Should I tell my advisor/PI about what's been going on? I don't know if/how to approach him. I want to talk to him about getting my thesis off the ground. He seems like he would be understanding but I don't want to tarnish the relationship more than I already might have since I struggled on a previous project. I think he knows that I'm trying though.
 
Consider discussing disclosure to your PI/advisor with your therapist (since you have one). Pros/Cons and rehearsal of your narrative would be helpful - therefore you can feel good about your decision later b/c as the Violent Femmes say (in their song Kiss Off) "this goes down on your permanent record."
 
Sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong location but I seriously could use some help and guidance from you all. I'm halfway through my first year in a terminal masters program in general psychology. The first semester was a bit of a transition but I made it alright and got all A's. I also established a good relationship with my PI/mentor. However, I noticed that I wasn't as happy or content as I thought I would be in this program and/or at this particular university. It wasn't my top choice for a number of reasons but I was glad to be back in school, learning new things, and finally making a step towards my future. I came to believe that things would get better, i.e. my mood and happiness would improve and I would just be able to deal with things better.

Some background: I come from a really horrible family situation where a lot of bad things happened to me. I experienced a lot of trauma and one of the mistakes I made in picking this program was selecting a program that is so close to home. It has caused more problems and more stress for me ever since I've been here. I desperately needed to get away from here but I didn't get into the PhD programs that I was interested in (which were all far away) and this was really my only option if I wanted to continue my education. I have tried to stay away from that bad home environment but the same people that I'm trying to get away from are making getting out (or breaking away) incredibly hard.

I didn't have anywhere to go for Winter Break so I reluctantly went back home and unfortunately endured a very, very traumatic experience that has been hard for me to recover from. It was a horrific life-threatening situation and that caused a lot of emotional and psychological pain that only made the feelings of unhappiness and stress even worse. That was the tipping point in a very bad, dysfunctional, and dangerous situation and family environment and I'm desperately trying to make it so I never have to experience anything like that again.

After experiencing that, I returned to school but I'm finding it near impossible to concentrate on my work and commit myself to doing a thesis. My advisor, while great and very helpful (though he doesn't know about what I experienced because I didn't want him to think that I couldn't handle the responsibilities and opportunities that he has given me), is not really using the population that I want to study and use in my thesis and future work. We recently worked on a poster together and it was really hard to get motivated but I powered through it, submitted it, but I made some mistakes that I think may have hurt my relationship with my advisor. That, along with the fact that my project is not going to get accepted for reasons that I can't go into made me sink into an even deeper hole.

The reason why I'm posting on here because I feel like I'm reeling and spiraling and I don't know how to deal with this feeling. Everything seems impossible. I can't even look at the beginning of my thesis stuff without wanting to throw up my hands and say "screw everything". I know I'm mostly feeling this way because of recent personal events but I'm trying to do some re-evaluating and make some life changes but I feel like I have no one to talk to, no one who can give me hug when I need it or who I can really go to about what has been going on. I've started therapy and I think it will be helpful but school has been this battle and I'm really trying to fight and deal with everything, and it's amazing that I'm managing to keep up with my TA and Research Assistant duties. I'm trying to get out of a toxic home/family situation and find another place to stay (which is adding even more stress because my lease is almost up and I have nowhere to go) all while trying to do projects and work on my thesis. I feel overwhelmed and it sucks because it's not even entirely school related. I get up in the morning and just go through the motions.

What can I do right now to get back on track? Everything is going wrong in my life and I just would like some guidance and advice on how to make it through this. I don't want to leave my program because I want to get my masters, plus I've already paid for this semester. Transferring also won't work right now. Should I decide not to do a thesis in an effort to cut down on stress? Will my chances of going on to a PhD or different degree program be harmed if I decide not to do a thesis?

First off, I'm sorry you are having to go through this, I think many of us have experienced some traumatic events that seem like the world is crashing down on you. I too went into a master's program to help strengthen my background for a doctoral program, I too have issues with more "cognitive-based" issues (i.e. learning disabilities). Without going into a history of it (I am sure you can search me and see redundant posts about my history FYI 😛), I thought I would share some key similarities to your situation and my personal/human/non-professional advice.

Like I stated before, I can empathize with you on the concentration issues, I literally have to spend twice the amount of time that many of my colleagues have to for articles, studying, etc. I was lucky enough to start developing a good self-awareness mechanism that allowed me to spot my "innate" qualities that negatively impacted me during undergrad. While the other issues you addressed I probably couldn't imagine what you are dealing with, but if it is something that literally distracts you, consumes you, dissuades you from achieving a goal you have long stated for yourself, I empathize with you at that level. I too had issues during my master's program that made me really question if I was doing the right thing, and honestly, I still have these moments. I have found out research and areas within my field that I do and don't like. I think there is a famous quote out there that goes something like this: "I didn't fail 1000 times at inventing a light bulb, I just found 1000 ways not to make a light bulb" (this is probably not verbatim, so I apologize).

So, with this in mind, some suggestions I have for you that pop out to me, with dealing with, helping many people in my cohort and others that vary in race, ethnicity, SES and age. If you believe you are having issues with cognition, I suggest you find a neuropsychologist to help determine if there are difficulties. I have a friend who had a viral infection that unfortunately affected her cognition, she was also in her 50's. She simply found out what tactics to use that were relevant to her issues to help her excel. For her, this literally included rushing to Starbucks to review all the notes she had just taken in class (she spent one hour), she did this for almost all her classes, like clockwork. Again, for different people, I licensed professional will help aid you in this process. My next suggestion is the actively start searching for an apartment (if you have the means financially). As CheetahGirl stated, she focuses on existentialism, focusing on one's internal locus of control (e.g. taking an active approach vs. passive approach in conflict resolution, etc.). I think by first getting out there to secure your apartment, this is an active process, once you can move out, many of the issues you might be having within your living situation will possibly start to resolve themselves for the time being (i.e. getting out of a negative environment). I think you will find yourself feeling more confident after some of this stress is lifted, allowing you to then focus on the thesis issue and also really finding out if A. research is your cup of tea, B. if the Ph.D. is the ultimate goal, C. if clinical work is your cup of tea.

At any rate, goodluck with this all, I think many people (including myself) would only want you to do well. 🙂
 
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