Help me find some good colleges

[ccesssu]

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I've been looking at the ivies and other top tier schools until i stumbled upon hsdn a few days ago. this concept of a cheaper lower tier premed education and get a sweet gpa (instead of IVIES IVIES IVIES) really opened my eyes. however, i have no idea what colleges to apply to that will give out enormous scholarships.

I'm in ohio, so OSU is the pretty much the only obvious choice (i will most likely get full ride to OSU). i've also looked at cwru, but the weather is ****ty (i swear i have SAD haha) and the place looks dreary and bland. i would honestly rather go to osu than cwru. i want nice weather / location, so i'm really looking for an out of state school, but also a decent education and low cost.


will post my stats later, but 2320 sat, top 5% class, everything stereotypical asians have
are there any out of state options where i can get scholarships?

 

[Namie]

University of Nevada (in Vegas) is pretty cheap last time I checked.

You need a 3.1 or 3.2 to get in too.

 

[HH Holmes]

I've been looking at the ivies and other top tier schools until i stumbled upon hsdn a few days ago. this concept of a cheaper lower tier premed education and get a sweet gpa (instead of IVIES IVIES IVIES) really opened my eyes. however, i have no idea what colleges to apply to that will give out enormous scholarships.

I'm in ohio, so OSU is the pretty much the only obvious choice (i will most likely get full ride to OSU). i've also looked at cwru, but the weather is ****ty (i swear i have SAD haha) and the place looks dreary and bland. i would honestly rather go to osu than cwru. i want nice weather / location, so i'm really looking for an out of state school, but also a decent education and low cost.


will post my stats later, but 2320 sat, top 5% class, everything stereotypical asians have
are there any out of state options where i can get scholarships?

You have a great SAT score and I am assuming a good GPA if you are top of your class. As long as your EFC (estimated family contribution) is low, you may be able to receive a lot of scholarship and financial aid money from most of the schools you apply to. I say apply to the safe schools you will get scholarships to (OSU) but also apply to top 50 and top 25 schools to see if you get any good money... If you want good location, good weather and somewhere that may give you a good scholarship check out UMiami, UF, Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt etc... With your stats, you should be receiving a very good financial package from almost any school you apply to.

I tell everyone to apply to Tulane, for four reasons: 1. If you use the application via their website, there is no fee or essay 2. The school gives out good money 3. It's a good school 4. If you apply EA you get a very quick decision!

I swear I have SAD also 😛 and that's why I chose to go from NY to FL. Good luck with your apps, with your stats you have good opportunities ahead of you.

 

[ucsfstudents]

Cheaper is not always better. Go where you/your parents/counselors think you will get the best education. Premed is great, but many students change their majors during college. Go to a place where you will likely be comfortable, where there a lot of great resources, connections, and where students tend to do well. Expect to acquire some debt while in college. A full ride is great, but not always best to choose at the expense of a better school. You have to weigh your options.

 

[Igor4sugry]

US Dept of Education recently launched a website with a database and wealth of information on all colleges.

http://collegecost.ed.gov/catc/Default.aspx

 

[OPP24]

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[Haislip]

University of Maryland
University of Michigan
You can try an HBCU (full ride with stipend because you are a non-black student)
GeorgeTown
Washington University at St. Louis
Harvery Mudd
University of Texas, Arlington
University of Maryland Baltimore County

 

[I'm No Superman]

University of Maryland
University of Michigan
You can try an HBCU (full ride with stipend because you are a non-black student)
GeorgeTown
Washington University at St. Louis
Harvery Mudd
University of Texas, Arlington
University of Maryland Baltimore County

U Mich and Wash U are known for their cold and random weather patterns ( U Mich especially). Georgetown and University of Maryland BC generally have very hot summers and very cold winters.

I'd say U Miami or Tulane. JChait already explained Tulane, but Miami is known for its amazing weather, its sports teams(If that matters to you), its academics, and its social scene (if that matters to you). They also give out pretty good merit based scholarships.

I know they have one scholarship that gives out $8,000/yr to students with a 30+ ACT and in the top 5% of the class ( Don't know the SAT requirement, but I'm positive your score is good enough.) Here is the scholarship list for incoming freshman.

I'm sure that you could go to this school for little or no money with your stats. Good luck. 🙂

 

[HH Holmes]

University of Maryland
University of Michigan
You can try an HBCU (full ride with stipend because you are a non-black student)
GeorgeTown
Washington University at St. Louis
Harvery Mudd
University of Texas, Arlington
University of Maryland Baltimore County

Getting into Harvey Mudd will be a crapshoot for anyone, let alone a full ride scholarship. Not discounting the OP's stats, but he/she has the average, if not below average stats of a student who goes there. Plus the school is extremely small -- smaller than the average high school -- and is heavily focused on engineering.

All of the rest seem reasonable, though. But, like Gamma said, some of those places don't have the nicest weather or social scene. Plus, I was on GTown's campus for a conference, and it seemed very religious to me (but maybe that's because I am not religious at all).

 

[I'm No Superman]

I use College Prowler to look at colleges. Not only do they have academics and tuition costs of colleges, but also factors like nightlife, weather, greek life, guys/girls, dorms, etc. That's how I chose the colleges that I'd like to go to. It would suck to go to a college you hated for four years just because it was a top ten school/low tuition school.

 

[ccesssu]

thanks for all the colleges guys
haven't heard about a lot of these colleges, i'll check them all out

 

[airjordan23]

Getting into Harvey Mudd will be a crapshoot for anyone, let alone a full ride scholarship. Not discounting the OP's stats, but he/she has the average, if not below average stats of a student who goes there. Plus the school is extremely small -- smaller than the average high school -- and is heavily focused on engineering.

All of the rest seem reasonable, though. But, like Gamma said, some of those places don't have the nicest weather or social scene. Plus, I was on GTown's campus for a conference, and it seemed very religious to me (but maybe that's because I am not religious at all).

based off just his SAT score, he is not below the average at any school in the nation...
his score is a good 50+ points above the Harvard average..

 

[I'm No Superman]

based off just his SAT score, he is not below the average at any school in the nation...
his score is a good 50+ points above the Harvard average..

Not to be racist (which the admissions game is, by the way) Asians tend to score higher on tests, and blacks/hispanics tend to score lower on tests. A university/grad school will set a bar that every applicant to be considered must be higher than (for example: 3.6gpa/28 ACT/1800SAT). Then they will start to sort the applications. Schools have to have a certain percentage of non-white applicants, and since Asians tend to score higher, their average scores are higher than the college's overall average. I don't know if this is how they still do this, but my grandfather was on the adcom for a college/grad school for 20+ years and retired seven years ago, and this is what they would do.

Still, he does have really great scores. I'm jealous 🙂

 

[HH Holmes]

based off just his SAT score, he is not below the average at any school in the nation...
his score is a good 50+ points above the Harvard average..

Unless he received an 800 on the math section, as well as an 800 on both the Physics and Math IIC SAT II and has extreme engineering ECs then he is below average for Harvey Mudd. I am not discounting his scores in the slightest bit, just Harvey Mudd has a total undergraduate body of ~800... 200 students per year makes Harvey Mudd one of the most, if not THE most competitive school in the United States.

 

[I'm No Superman]

Harvey Mudd has a total undergraduate body of ~800... 200 students per year makes Harvey Mudd one of the most, if not THE most competitive school in the United States.

US World News says that Harvey Mudd has a 34% acceptance rate. Correct me if I'm wrong (because I truly have NO idea if this is right), but I'm assuming that this is one of those colleges that people apply to where every single applicant is worthy of getting into the school. I read up on the school, and it looks like the school that people would chose over a Harvard admission if they were interested in engineering.

 

[HH Holmes]

US World News says that Harvey Mudd has a 34% acceptance rate. Correct me if I'm wrong (because I truly have NO idea if this is right), but I'm assuming that this is one of those colleges that people apply to where every single applicant is worthy of getting into the school. I read up on the school, and it looks like the school that people would chose over a Harvard admission if they were interested in engineering.

You'd be correct. If I remember correctly they're in some sort of agreement with a few other California schools, and that is why their academic offerings are so limited, as other schools such as Pomona offer more liberal arts and humanities options. On their website they say most of their students go onto PhDs.

 

[kenshin421]

If they're reccomending private schools in CA, why not the UC system? His score is above average of all the UC's and if his GPA is high enough, he has a shot at UCB and UCLA. He can probably qualify for the regents scholarship if he has high enough GPA.

 

[deleted357625]

cheapest one

 

[Obnoxious Dad]

You can get a first rate education in the sciences at Miami. You'd pay instate tuition and if you change your mind and decide against medicine, Miami is not a bad name to have on your resume.

If you are absolutely sure you want to be a physician, consider going to Kent State. Kent along with the University of Akron and Youngstown State are the three feeder schools for Northeast Ohio Medical College. There is some kind of formal arrangement among those institutions. Check it out.

Don't forget to avoid calculus based physics.🙂

 

[NickNaylor]

You can get a first rate education in the sciences at Miami. You'd pay instate tuition and if you change your mind and decide against medicine, Miami is not a bad name to have on your resume.

If you are absolutely sure you want to be a physician, consider going to Kent State. Kent along with the University of Akron and Youngstown State are the three feeder schools for Northeast Ohio Medical College. There is some kind of formal arrangement among those institutions. Check it out.

Don't forget to avoid calculus based physics.🙂

I heard that choosing a university because it's a "feeder" for a medical school is a great plan. 🙄

 

[Ashers]

I applied to a ton of colleges and had no intention of going to medical school, however, I did stumble upon a bunch of scholarships.

The colleges may still have these programs, since I applied in 1999. I also don't know any of the GPA/SAT cut offs.

University of Arizona -- my alma mater. For out of state students, they had a scholarship for good grades/SAT where I paid instate tuition, did 20 hours of community service and maintained a 3.5 average. This also meant you were in the honors college, but you didn't have to graduate with honors. They had great research experience, and the volunteering I did, helped with applying for med school.

Washington and Jefferson out in western PA had a full ride scholarship that you were eligible for if you had good grades and SAT score. Then you had to go to the school for a day of interviewing for it. I got it, and I turned it down. I decided against the school for personal reasons. When I applied for medical school, my mom found there was some sort of connection between them and Pitt. I often wondered what it would've been like if I had gone there.

Pepperdine. I was eligible for a half tuition scholarship -- again GPA/SAT.

I think those were the 3 big schools where I got scholarships. That made all of them cheaper than my state school where I got no financial help.

Pomona one of the Claremont Colleges in CA (I think it was established by a Yalie). My sister went there and did well in med school. There was no financial aid for me, so I decided against them.

 

[flatearth22]

I heard that choosing a university because it's a "feeder" for a medical school is a great plan. 🙄

I think he's talking about a formal 6 year med program.

http://www.neoucom.edu/audience/applicants/succeed/admi/admiinfocurrentHS

 

[deleted393595]

Pepperdine. I was eligible for a half tuition scholarship -- again GPA/SAT.

I think those were the 3 big schools where I got scholarships. That made all of them cheaper than my state school where I got no financial help.

Pepperdine with a half tuition scholarship (~$80K full cost per year) cheaper than your state school? What ungodly state do you live in?

(I heard the 80K figure secondhand from someone going to Pepperdine so I can't vouch for its veracity)

 

[Ashers]

Pepperdine with a half tuition scholarship (~$80K full cost per year) cheaper than your state school? What ungodly state do you live in?

(I heard the 80K figure secondhand from someone going to Pepperdine so I can't vouch for its veracity)

Sorry, I mispoke on that one when I lumped it into cheaper than state school and colleges with scholarships. This was also over 10 years ago, so it wasn't near 80k.

 

[deleted393595]

Sorry, I mispoke on that one when I lumped it into cheaper than state school and colleges with scholarships. This was also over 10 years ago, so it wasn't near 80k.

No problem. I just couldn't imagine a state college charging more than ~40K 😱