help me get rid of some schools please!

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LauraMac

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Here's my list right now:
UCLA
Drexel
MCW
MCO
Michigan State
NYU
Tulane
Chicago - Pritzker
Umich
University of Pittsburgh
VCU
Wayne State
Stanford
UCSF
Rush
University of Cincinnati
Eastern Virginia
University of Virginia


Please help me get rid of some of these. 18 is just too expensive! Any good or bad comments about any? Are any really bad about taking out of state people?

Thanks so much for your help!

Laura 🙂
 
Ok...

UCLA
UCSF

They accept around or less than 3% of out of state applicants - you have very poor chances of acceptance at those schools.
 
your chances at the UC's are not great, why don't you try one or the other. If MCO isn't good w/ out of staters, i'd drop them. also, why don't you choose one of EVMS and VCU.
 
california is where i really want to be, but i know i'm not going to get in, so i really should get rid of one or two.

out of the three virginia schools, any comments about any specifically? i'd like to only choose one or two of them.
 
the question is...what do you consider your safety schools, reasonable chance schools, and dream schools?

UCLA - out of staters have little chance.
UCSF - more friendly to out of state applicants; they're similar actually to Umich's policy on out of staters.

Definitely keep your 3 michigan schools, although if you get into Umich then you shouldn't consider the other 2.

From looking at your list, you have a good balance of schools. If you're worried about cost (and I'm sure AMCAS/secondary app costs have increased since the time I applied), I would maybe get rid of 1-3 of those safe schools you got on their list (especially if you have absolutely no intention of going to those places). I won't mention which schools on your list, specifically, I consider safe schools cuz I don't wanna be flamed by the students who go to those schools.
 
Rush is over 80% illinois residents...there are schools out there with better odds for out of staters
 
actually umich is around 50/50 in/out of state... while UCSF only has about 20 out of staters per year. its tough.

im just hoping for a secondary from ucsf, everything else will be gravy.
 
Keep UCLA. They have no in-state vs. out-of-state preference. Take my word for this, but if you need proof, I'll dig up the link - it's on their website. UCSF DOES have a preference... 75% of the class is reserved for California residents and another 5% for WWAMI residents.

I'm pretty sure that UVA has strong in-state preference. A little known fact is that Pritzker reserves 33% of its class for Illinois residents. This is not uncommon among private schools - outright or more subtly, many do prefer in-state residents, probably because they're more likely to matriculate.

Hope that helps. 18's not that high a number - with acceptance rates as low as they are, your best bet is to apply to many to maximize your chances this year. It's expensive, but reapplication is more expensive, time-wise and financially.
 
I hope I see you at UMich or Stanford cause if we got interviews there, that would be really cool. I might see you at Chicago, Mich State or MCW. Good luck to you, and may we meet on the interview trail. Man, I hope Mich State takes a few from out of state...
 
kiki the alto said:
I hope I see you at UMich or Stanford cause if we got interviews there, that would be really cool. I might see you at Chicago, Mich State or MCW. Good luck to you, and may we meet on the interview trail. Man, I hope Mich State takes a few from out of state...


I was looking at MSAR--why do they take so many out of staters if they are a state school? being a calif resident I was surprised to see that....
 
BaylorLion said:
Keep UCLA. They have no in-state vs. out-of-state preference. Take my word for this, but if you need proof, I'll dig up the link - it's on their website. UCSF DOES have a preference... 75% of the class is reserved for California residents and another 5% for WWAMI residents.

UNTRUE. UCLA, as all UCs, prefer CA residents. It's required by state law.
According to US News, for 2003:
In state acceptance rate: 5.8%
Out of state: 2.9%
And dont forget that these are out of staters with stronger-than-average applications.
 
If you want to go to cali, you could try USC. Since they're private, i'm sure they don't care if your in state or out of state. I believe stanford is like that too. I'm afraid that your scores may not be competitive enough for ucsf and ucla as an out of stater....but if you have very good EC's that make you stand out....you never know.....
 
yeah, i'm almost positive i won't get in anywhere in cali, but i have to try, cause that is where i want to go.

thanks for all your thoughts so far everyone!

does anyone know if any of these schools are religious or super conservative? those would be good reasons for me to get rid of them.
 
i think i remember seeing that uva's class body is 65% in-state and 35% out of state. chances there are pretty good for non-va residents.
 
SanDiegoSOD said:
UNTRUE. UCLA, as all UCs, prefer CA residents. It's required by state law.
According to US News, for 2003:
In state acceptance rate: 5.8%
Out of state: 2.9%
And dont forget that these are out of staters with stronger-than-average applications.

Nope, not untrue. Officially they say they give no preference to CA residents, thought the numbers of people they accept might indicate otherwise.

From http://www.medstudent.ucla.edu/frames/admiss.htm:

ADMISSIONS INFORMATION

Age: The average age of our matriculants is 23 years. We encourage people of all ages who have demonstrated exceptional motivation and academic achievement to apply.

Residence: No preference is given to state of residence. However many applicants come from California. Acceptees from California are more likely to matriculate at UCLA. Out of 145 freshman, 85 percent were from California.


To the OP, I agree with the previous poster who mentioned USC. You might have a better shot there than at the UCs. You can try for the UCs but the chances are very small for out-of-staters and if you're looking to save money, those are 2 obvious ones to drop. Don't apply to Loma Linda if you don't want a religous school. Good luck.
 
I would take Stanford off that list and replace it with USC. You have a decent shot at USC, but not so much at Stanford just because they have a very rigorous screening process that places a lot of wait on grades & MCAT. Sorry, I know that's not very helpful considering that you are trying to reduce your list...
 
LoneCoyote said:
Nope, not untrue. Officially they say they give no preference to CA residents, thought the numbers of people they accept might indicate otherwise.

From http://www.medstudent.ucla.edu/frames/admiss.htm:

ADMISSIONS INFORMATION

Age: The average age of our matriculants is 23 years. We encourage people of all ages who have demonstrated exceptional motivation and academic achievement to apply.

Residence: No preference is given to state of residence. However many applicants come from California. Acceptees from California are more likely to matriculate at UCLA. Out of 145 freshman, 85 percent were from California.


To the OP, I agree with the previous poster who mentioned USC. You might have a better shot there than at the UCs. You can try for the UCs but the chances are very small for out-of-staters and if you're looking to save money, those are 2 obvious ones to drop. Don't apply to Loma Linda if you don't want a religous school. Good luck.


What they state and what actually is are two different things. I can assure you UCLA has a strong preference for in state students.
 
exmike said:
What they state and what actually is are two different things. I can assure you UCLA has a strong preference for in state students.

Yup, I agree completely, which is why I said their numbers of who they accept might indicate otherwise. I read somewhere that UCLA was the most selective school in the country, based on the number of applicants they get. I am not sure if that is true but I could believe it, especially for out-of-state applicants.
 
exmike said:
What they state and what actually is are two different things. I can assure you UCLA has a strong preference for in state students.

Agreed. If anything, UCLA is just trying to get $$$ and more applicants to reject to better their numbers by misleading out of staters. They most definitely give preference to Cali students (as they should-- Cali taxpayers pay for the UCs).
 
UCs tend to favor Cali residents heavily (both undergrad and grad) just like many other state schools favor theirs. Virginia public schools are different though. For example, incoming class of Uva undergrad this year consists of 46% out of state.
 
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