High MCAT and relatively low GPA

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I got a 38 Q 13-13-12 VR-PS-BS, but I have a 3.4 GPA. I know this is not low, I am actually happy with this GPA, but it appears low when coupled with my MCAT score. I went to a small liberal arts college that has a lot of grade inflation so it's not like I went to MIT or Cornell where a 3.4 is really hard to attain.

Will this potentially be a negative? I am worried that lower tier schools will think twice because my MCAT is too "high" while higher tier schools will think twice because of my GPA. I just want to get in anywhere!!!!
 
You should be all right somewhere--just apply broadly and keep in mind your state school(s). The middle tier schools will realize that your gpa makes you not-too-competitive at top tier schools and should remain interested in you assuming your non-academic package is reasonable.
 
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Many would kill for your "problem". I think that you'll be good. Remember, the MCAT is the great equalizer for all...

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I'm right there with ya, Katie: a 39Q with 2.95 overall, 3.4 BCPM GPA, with last six of twelve semesters (90 credits) quite strong, thanks to post-bacc work.

We'll see how it goes, eh? Your GPA is much stronger than mine. I think you'll be fine. What's your BCPM?
 
Is it possible to get into a top teir school with a 3.4gpa? My gpa is somewhere around there, but i havent taken the mcat yet.
 
Yeah you guys with the 38s and 39s have a really big problem.
 
NRAI2001 said:
Is it possible to get into a top teir school with a 3.4gpa? My gpa is somewhere around there, but i havent taken the mcat yet.

Probably not. They're just way too competitive. Possibly if you're URM. I'm applying at a couple top-tier (HMS, Mayo) just for the heck of it, but don't expect to get interviews.
 
I have 3.3 and a 34 MCAT. I'm hopeful for a DO school or maybe a state MD school.
Just how much does the MCAT make up for a lower GPA??? I know it is the great equalizer, but how does it figure into who gets an interview? Is there a formula the schools use?
 
I have 3.3 and a 34 MCAT. I'm hopeful for a DO school or maybe a state MD school.
Just how much does the MCAT make up for a lower GPA??? I know it is the great equalizer, but how does it figure into who gets an interview? Is there a formula the schools use?

Holy crap. You literally bumped a thread from like, THE LAST DECADE.
 
you guys should use the equation that some state schools use to compare applicants...

X= (mcat/3 + 3.75 x cumGPA)/2

The number seems abstract, but when compared to a field you get the idea of where you stand...for example here are my stats and here's how to calculate my X score as shown above.

my stats: 30Q mcat, 3.75 cumGPA

X = (30/3 + 3.75 x 3.75)/2
X = 12.03

BUMPER here's yours

X = (34/3 + 3.75x3.3)/2
X = 11.85
 
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Sorry about the bump -I am not so sure of correct posting rules or what exactly that means...lol but since people complained I am guessing it is a bad thing??

I guess I am showing my age here 🙂 I was at work and didn't have time to read the entire thread. I looked at the title and few other posts and posted. Thanks for the answers anyway.
 
Sorry about the bump -I am not so sure of correct posting rules or what exactly that means...lol but since people complained I am guessing it is a bad thing??

I guess I am showing my age here 🙂 I was at work and didn't have time to read the entire thread. I looked at the title and few other posts and posted. Thanks for the answers anyway.

they are just teasing you about the power bump! it's just funny that you found such an old thread that applied to you....and for the record, I am at work too! 🙂
 
they are just teasing you about the power bump! it's just funny that you found such an old thread that applied to you....and for the record, I am at work too! 🙂
+1 on all counts
 
I have 3.3 and a 34 MCAT. I'm hopeful for a DO school or maybe a state MD school.
Just how much does the MCAT make up for a lower GPA??? I know it is the great equalizer, but how does it figure into who gets an interview? Is there a formula the schools use?

I've heard that some schools look at (10*GPA + MCAT) as a rough numerical combination of the two statistics. Mayo allegedly preliminarily screens out applicants with such a score below 60 - such applicants don't even get the secondary (which actually consists solely of a check, but that's neither here nor there).

For what it's worth, I have a lower GPA (I think the final AMCAS calculation was 3.23) and a higher MCAT (42), and I've gotten some interviews to very selective schools.

With a lowish GPA, a high MCAT is definitely a big help. But I think in the end no formula is going to capture what the adcom makes of you. They'll use their judgement. It'll help if the low GPA was from a prestigious and tough school. It'll help if your more recent grades are much better than your average grades.

It'll help if you have a good story to tell - yes, in the past you drank and partied too much, hadn't figured out how to study with your dyslexia, were busy nursing your ailing mother, or whatever, and your grades suffered. Now, though, things are different. You've reformed. You've seen the light, pulled yourself together, and are prepared to commit to performing very well in med school (and ideally you'll have a few semesters of better recent grades to back this up). You want to convince them that, while you may not have been a stand-out student in the past, when you get to their med school it'll be nothing but kicking ass and taking names.

A good MCAT score helps this story line, insofar as it shows that you successfully put your mind to doing well on an exam. Your 34 is good. You're smart and can do well academically. You probably could have done better than your 3.3. First you need to figure out why you didn't do better in school. Were you busy? Lazy? Drunk? Disinterested in the classes you took? Just not applying yourself? Why not? Take a long hard look at yourself. Now, figure out why it's going to be different in the future. You'll need to step up your game to do well in med school. What's different about the student you are now (or at least will be in the future) and the student you were then? What will be different in the future that will make it different than the past? You need to be able to satisfactorily answer this for yourself. Then you'll need to figure out how to satisfactorily answer it to the adcom.

Adcoms have plenty of students with better GPAs to pick from. You need to convince them that you are going to be better.
 
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they are just teasing you about the power bump! it's just funny that you found such an old thread that applied to you....and for the record, I am at work too! 🙂

I like being able to get productive things like this done at work...lol no seriously we just had a slow day! That is pretty funny that I found something that applied to me that is like 7 years old😉
 
Low gpa >3.5 and 30-33 Mcat score, scholastic dishonesty but not on transcript, fairly renowned school.
Honestly what are the chances of getting into medical school...?
 
If the academic dishonesty resulted in ANY "institutional action" from your school, regardless of whether or not it appears on your transcript, schools you apply to will find out. Out of all the legal/honor code problems to have, academic dishonesty is the mother of them all. You'd better have an extremely compelling story about how it happened years and years ago and that you've atoned for your sins 10 times over. On top of that and your GPA/MCAT you will also most likely need an outstanding package of ECs and letters of rec.

Basically you are handicapped by the fact that in addition to everything your average applicant has to demonstrate, you also have an enormous burden of proof on you to convince an adcom that you are honest/have character, etc.

I think you might have a decent chance eventually, but if the cheating or whatever happened anytime in the last couple of years, you will be disadvantaged. "Statutes of limitations" on that kind of stuff is usually 3-5 years. So if you don't get in this year, I'd recommend taking a year or two off to really get engaged in something that will build character and prove that you are a changed man.
 
If the academic dishonesty resulted in ANY "institutional action" from your school, regardless of whether or not it appears on your transcript, schools you apply to will find out. Out of all the legal/honor code problems to have, academic dishonesty is the mother of them all. You'd better have an extremely compelling story about how it happened years and years ago and that you've atoned for your sins 10 times over. On top of that and your GPA/MCAT you will also most likely need an outstanding package of ECs and letters of rec.

Basically you are handicapped by the fact that in addition to everything your average applicant has to demonstrate, you also have an enormous burden of proof on you to convince an adcom that you are honest/have character, etc.

I think you might have a decent chance eventually, but if the cheating or whatever happened anytime in the last couple of years, you will be disadvantaged. "Statutes of limitations" on that kind of stuff is usually 3-5 years. So if you don't get in this year, I'd recommend taking a year or two off to really get engaged in something that will build character and prove that you are a changed man.

There was no institutional action I believe just that the professor wanted to make an example out of me so he said I was copying a lab report. Basically I just got two 0s on those lab reports but would that be considered institutional action?
 
Oh.. well then no that's probably nothing. Sounds like he didn't report you and rather gave you a warning by giving the 0's.. nothing is on record. Your OP made me think your school took some kind of internal disciplinary actions but didn't officially publish it in your record.

Just don't be dumb and ask that same professor for a letter of rec!
 
Holy crap. You literally bumped a thread from like, THE LAST DECADE.

Uh, its still 2010 so its still from this past decade. But yes its 6 years old.

And pretty funny such a old thread was bumped.
 
Uh, its still 2010 so its still from this past decade. But yes its 6 years old.

And pretty funny such a old thread was bumped.
s/he means that we're in a new decade, the 00s vs. the 10s
 
There was no institutional action I believe just that the professor wanted to make an example out of me so he said I was copying a lab report. Basically I just got two 0s on those lab reports but would that be considered institutional action?


Well it is on my record but not transcript. usually on applications they ask if they can see your academic record. but my school cannot reveal it unless on that application I say its okay. But I obviously cannot say no because that is a red flag itself. On my record it says "scholastic dishonesty" because I had to sign a form that I agree to settle with his terms about the 0s and such ...is that institutional action?
 
It's interesting to read this post and then look at his sig and see he's now a residents in rads :laugh:

haha wow good catch. Just proves that getting an average MCAT doesn't mean you'll get a low step one.
 
Just realized the ancient nature of this one.
 
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