hmm I got a 250 on step 2-now what

[TheCat]

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well I was plugging along-passed all my first 2 years ande 3rd year with no honors, no research, top 40 school, no real special things about me-got a 220 on step 1 and planned my career and application around applying to a med-psych program and some psych programs cause that is what I like and knew a 220 was not good enough for something like rads-well I just got my step 2 scores back recently and got a 250-which is pretty good I thought-is that enough to make up for everything else and even though I only have like 1 rads elective late in my 4th year and no LORs towards rads-all mine are from medicine and psych profs-coudl i still take a stab at throwing some apps out to rads and see what happens? or is it pointless-rads is notwhat i enjoyed but i think of anything as a job and rads sure pays a heck of a lot more-just curious before its too late! thanks

 

[colbgw02]

well I was plugging along-passed all my first 2 years ande 3rd year with no honors, no research, top 40 school, no real special things about me-got a 220 on step 1 and planned my career and application around applying to a med-psych program and some psych programs cause that is what I like and knew a 220 was not good enough for something like rads-well I just got my step 2 scores back recently and got a 250-which is pretty good I thought-is that enough to make up for everything else and even though I only have like 1 rads elective late in my 4th year and no LORs towards rads-all mine are from medicine and psych profs-coudl i still take a stab at throwing some apps out to rads and see what happens? or is it pointless-rads is notwhat i enjoyed but i think of anything as a job and rads sure pays a heck of a lot more-just curious before its too late! thanks

if you didn't want to be a radiologist before, then getting a good step II score shouldn't change that. conversely, if you really wanted to be a radiologist, then a step I score of 220 shouldn't change that either. if med/psych is what you enjoy, then stick with it.

 

[TheCat]

well the extra 200k per year is what I really am interested in-to me a job will become a job eventually-what Im asking is -is it possible with my situation or do people want to see a continued long lasting motivation to get into rads?

 

[RadGirl]

A job will become just a job much faster if you don't love what you're doing. Also, don't count on making millions in rads, the reimbursement is dropping precipitously and by the time we're practicing, it will be much different. Do what you find the most interesting.

 

[cliffhanger]

Even with the late start, I don't think you'll have problems getting interviews... esp. if you don't mind matching at a community program. However, it took just one month of being bored out of my mind to realize that no amount of money could make me happy doing something I hate. Sure, all things probably lose their luster and eventually become just a job... but if you started out not liking something to begin with, money probably won't be that much of a consolation.

 

[getinthehole]

Without any real interest or experience at all in Radiology, how can you expect to write a half decent personal statement, or more importantly, avoid being sub-par on the interview trail. You also will probably not fit in well if you do land a spot.

Your application was below average to okay before, but I don't think that 250 step 2 dramatically adds too much anyways to a radiology application. It isn't considered even close to the same degree as step 1. This may be different in other fields though. Congrats though on your improvement, it is a good score.

All said, my guess is you would probably match at a community program, probably in a less competitive location. Who knows though... no visible interest and no experience is probably the worst combination possible - both in your chances as an applicant, and what others want in someone they work with.

 

[TheCat]

haha that is pretty laughable-step 2 is not anywher enear step 1 huh? I guess you havent talekd to many PDs in rads or anywhere else-this was actually on the recomendation of my school that I do not want to attend or it would be cut and dry-but my Rads PD whom I am on a rotation suggested my step 2 would look even better than a step 1 and to be honet I have heard this from about 10 PDs that I have checked with over the last 1.5 years since after a step 1 of 220 I was looking for the best way to rememdy that-and everyone said a step 2 was even more looked at than a step 1 since it takes in all 3 years of clinical knowledge so just for other poeples info-this guy is mistaken-as for your other points-i know im below avj for rads otherwise but I still wanted the input-if i were interested in going to my currne med schools program than I would not have to post this-i wanted general advice for country wide applicants- anyway thanks for the input!

 

[RadGirl]

My understanding is that Step 1 is commonly used as a screening tool for interviews. Applicants with a Step 1 below a certain score may not have the rest of their application looked at. I know that UCSF at one point published that their step 1 cutoff for interviews was 240, but even that is flexible because I've also heard of people who had strong applications otherwise who interviewed there. Anyway, point being that at some programs, it's not always possible to get past a lower step 1.

 

[TheCat]

well radgirl you are stating the obvious-if your step 1 is below a schools cutoff-which I do not know of many schools that use a pure cutoff-but obviously it will not matter what else you have if you cant get by the cutoff-I am saying assuming you didnt completely bomb step 1 AND you get past the cutoff-if you have a step 2 available-form what i have HEARD from 2 surgery PDs, 1 Rads, a few Medicine and a few pysch PDs-all have TOLD me-its not my opinion and I know it seems bias now that I have a good step 2-but this is stuff i looked into last year before I ever took step 2-all of them said the most imporrtant thing you can add to your apps after step 1-is blowing step 2 out of the water-they will easily look at a really good step 2 and not care about the lower step 1-that is what I have heard form a select few PDs-but considering they were from a wide range of specialities in multipe cities-i figured it could be used as a genalization-if you have a stellar step 1 than who cares-you dont need a good step 2-but im saying for peple who want to improve-step 2 is looked at highly if you have it and did really well-just a word of encouragement-now back to rads-can i get in with pretty much a ****to application and a good step 2-if not that is fine-i just dont want to waste my dough on apps for nothing-im happy with psych-i love pysch but i love big bucks more!

 

[napoleondynamite]

well radgirl you are stating the obvious-if your step 1 is below a schools cutoff-which I do not know of many schools that use a pure cutoff-but obviously it will not matter what else you have if you cant get by the cutoff-I am saying assuming you didnt completely bomb step 1 AND you get past the cutoff-if you have a step 2 available-form what i have HEARD from 2 surgery PDs, 1 Rads, a few Medicine and a few pysch PDs-all have TOLD me-its not my opinion and I know it seems bias now that I have a good step 2-but this is stuff i looked into last year before I ever took step 2-all of them said the most imporrtant thing you can add to your apps after step 1-is blowing step 2 out of the water-they will easily look at a really good step 2 and not care about the lower step 1-that is what I have heard form a select few PDs-but considering they were from a wide range of specialities in multipe cities-i figured it could be used as a genalization-if you have a stellar step 1 than who cares-you dont need a good step 2-but im saying for peple who want to improve-step 2 is looked at highly if you have it and did really well-just a word of encouragement-now back to rads-can i get in with pretty much a ****to application and a good step 2-if not that is fine-i just dont want to waste my dough on apps for nothing-im happy with psych-i love pysch but i love big bucks more!

If it's all about the benjamins, and that's really it, then why not consider a career with a drug company? Or venture capital? You seem to me like you already feel confident about your application b/c you have talked to like "10 PD's" to validate yourself..so not sure what advice you're really asking for. But congrats on the 250 🙄

 

[sepsis]

Without any real interest or experience at all in Radiology, how can you expect to write a half decent personal statement, or more importantly, avoid being sub-par on the interview trail. You also will probably not fit in well if you do land a spot.

Your application was below average to okay before, but I don't think that 250 step 2 dramatically adds too much anyways to a radiology application. It isn't considered even close to the same degree as step 1. This may be different in other fields though. Congrats though on your improvement, it is a good score.

All said, my guess is you would probably match at a community program, probably in a less competitive location. Who knows though... no visible interest and no experience is probably the worst combination possible - both in your chances as an applicant, and what others want in someone they work with.

Damn, hold on.... loooking for my flame-thrower.

GITH, you are spewing the kind of mis-information and bad advice that is worthy of auntminnie. Seriously, unless you are a PD you cannot give out that kind of information ( and even then only for your own program ).

Are you applying to rads? If so be careful, no one will want to help out someone who is looking to put another applicant down... it's just bad form and plain not nice.

I went from a 223 to a 237. I matched a top program, you can never say never.

Good luck in your applications and don't let other people discourage you, both of you.

 

[getinthehole]

1. I was trying to be nice and honest. How in the hell did you take it otherwise? I shouldn’t even respond, but like you I’d hate to misinform.

2. I definitely didn’t and don't need to put you down, step 1 >255 is impressive (the one everyone takes).

3. You didn't blow crap out of the water, your score ain't that impressive… good to very good, but far from the request to write next year’s questions. If that even is your score (amazing how many scores end in 0 or 5).

Surgery, medicine, and psych are not radiology. Only points I would take as very significant come from radiology PD. How many radiology PD’s you think post on here? My guess is 0, what’s yours? Only info I passed on (besides comments... which were not mean) was step 1 is significantly more important than step 2. You will find little truly informed disagreement. You passed on much more misleading and inaccurate statements, implying at first they came from radiology PD's when they were from people outside the field.

Most good radiology applicants don't even take step 2... why... because they are 250+ on step 1. Just about everyone improves on step 2, unless they did well on step 1 and are just looking to pass step 2. Yes, to recover from step 1 poor score, a good step 2 is very good. However, I don't see how your logic that then puts together that step 2 is therefore more important. HOW CAN YOU SAY STEP 2 IS MORE IMPORTANT WHEN PROBABLY WAY LESS THAN HALF OF THE APPLICANTS TAKE IT LATE ENOUGH SO PROGRAMS CAN SEE IT??? How can you really know what a good step 2 is when the people with arguably the best shot at doing the best, don’t put in near as much effort as everyone else. It's about comparing people if you haven't figured anything out yet.

To your friend: Seriously, what major programs do you think stains their shorts seeing an applicant going from 223 to 237? Congrats on what is that got to be … the 55th to the 65th percentile? That has to be your home school… or let me search FREIDA and look up “major program” and find that recent name change. Let everyone know which school this is so they can save money on applications.

Do what you want... who cares… you will not even be able to get in to any program anyways because you have to be able to spell ERAS to submit an application.

Believe me, psych is a good match for you… maybe your friend can switch as well.

I feel bad for whoever gets screwed and matches with you (assuming you figure out that it is …..E….R….A….S).

 

[getinthehole]

Comments above only for two select individuals.

How can people complain when they ask for help and opinions, get honest opinions, and then bitch about the person offering help?

Apparently it is being well done here.

Later.

 

[sepsis]

Comments above only for two select individuals.

How can people complain when they ask for help and opinions, get honest opinions, and then bitch about the person offering help?

Apparently it is being well done here.

Later.

ouch.

Just so both of you know, yes, not all programs consider step 2 and it's true that many have cut-offs for step 1 so step 2 may not even be evaluated. However, I was encouraged by the super-nice PD at my home school to take step 2 early to bolster my chances. A PD at another program remarked that a step 1 of 240+ is meaningless to her w/o 'having the balls to back it up with step 2' as she put it.

One very practical way to find out is to call the PD's assistant (being v. polite of course) and ask what is the step 1 cut-off and if they consider step 2. I got a lot of great information that way. I was told point blank by one person that they would not even consider the application without step 2. Who would have known that without calling?

My scores weren't that great, sure, but I got 50% of the interviews I applied for and was encouraged along the way. The PD's realize that scores aren't all that - I mean that's what the interviews are for right?
And no to answer your jibe, I didn't match at my home school thanks, I matched my number 1 choice.

The reason I countered your response is I believe that you can't tell someone that you think they'll be a poor fit, when you don't know them personally. You cannot say that step 2 isn't worth anything when you yourself know very little about how each program approaches selection. There are so many variables and so highly discouraging another applicant makes you look like you are trying to do so purposefully without being forthright about what you REALLY know, not what you are simply speculating.

No one is 'bitching' about your 'help' just pointing out that it's really not very helpful. that's all.

 

[TheCat]

Well I am not bitching about your "help" because you are of no help-how helpful is it to tell me things that either arenot true or are meaningless to me-Yes it is true that way more people submit step 1 scores-and I didnt say step 2 was "more important" -what I did say and what I have learned from the people have I talked to is high score on step 2 is more impressive andlooks better than a high score on step 1-assuming you have both-that doesnt mean its more important but if you happen to have it and do well-then to them that shows consistency if you score high on both, or ability to step it up, if you do better on step 2-I am not exactly sure why-what I was told by-oh yes by the way if you read my post i did say a RADIOLOGY PD is one of the people who encouraged me to apply and told me about step 2-They told me that step 1 takes into acount how well you can study basic sciences but step 2 tells you how well you can function as a doctor-you get asked about treatment, next step, management of a patient-think about it-if you were a PD and wanted a functional resident-why wouldnt it be feasible to really look highly upon an exam that tests just that-Now again im not saying it is what is most common but its something good if you can have it-

I just donot consider your guessing at the countries PDs thoughts helpful-I guess by posting I am implying or assumign for sake of arguement that a 250 on step 2 is a signifgant boost to an application-and buddy a 237 from the above is no where near 65th percentile-try more along the mid 80th percentile- a 212 this year was the step 1 mean-and if you calculate it out a score of roughly 218 was the 50th percentile-250 is in the 90th percentile plus-so if that is not a "blow it out of the water" type score and you say that is a good-above average score-than you are saying 90th percentile in the country of all medical students is "above average' i think that just makes you seem dumb and incompetent-I would say basedon your stupidity you make a sad applicatn to any speciality

 

[flux=rad]

The opinion about Step 1 in radiology applications comes from collective experience as well as actual surveys of the radiology program directors. Latest is here:
http://www.apdr.org/pdf_files/2005/2005SurveyResults.pdf

 

[sepsis]

Oh by the way, there is an EM PD that posts in the gen res section of SDN. He posted a ton this time last year and gave some interesting insight to the selection process - it's pretty similar across specialties it seems.

Do a search, you might find it interesting if not usefull.

 

[getinthehole]

Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they are stupid. Have you ever thought that you may not be right all the time.

In this case - when you are clearly wrong and continue to bitch - you look dumb as sh_t.

 

[xhxlx]

first of all, as it has been stated already, you (thecat) should not decide to go into a field because of money. it should be because of true interest. otherwise, quite frankly, you just won't be good at what you do because you won't enjoy doing it everyday. it will become a chore, and that will become obvious to your patients, employers, and everyone else around you. this will then lead to a lower salary and a lower quality of life.
that being said, it is frightening how much emphasis you seem to place on money. seriously...it is frightening.
finally, i find this post very confusing. i do not understand why the op decided to post his/her question. it seems almost as if he/she wanted some affirmation of his/her step 2 score instead of wanting an answer to a question. after all, if he has already spoken to numerous PD's about the value of a step 2 score, what does he need on a forum of mostly medical students and some residents? he already seems to have the answers from speaking to the PDs, so the only thing could really be boasting about his step 2 score, which is good-very good, but not stellar.
sorry to add another response to this insensible thread.

 

[thackl]

Most good most radiology applicants don't even take step 2... why... because they are 250+ on step 1. Just about everyone improves on step 2, unless they did well on step 1 and are just looking to pass step 2.

To your friend: Seriously, what major programs do you think stains their shorts seeing an applicant going from 223 to 237? Congrats on what is that got to be … the 55th to the 65th percentile?

1.) According to the latest info from NRMP, a field doesn't exist where the avg applicant has >250 in step1.
2.) 237 is >80th %ile.
3.) You seem like a real ass

 

[p53]

well I was plugging along-passed all my first 2 years ande 3rd year with no honors, no research, top 40 school, no real special things about me-got a 220 on step 1 and planned my career and application around applying to a med-psych program and some psych programs cause that is what I like and knew a 220 was not good enough for something like rads-well I just got my step 2 scores back recently and got a 250-which is pretty good I thought-is that enough to make up for everything else and even though I only have like 1 rads elective late in my 4th year and no LORs towards rads-all mine are from medicine and psych profs-coudl i still take a stab at throwing some apps out to rads and see what happens? or is it pointless-rads is notwhat i enjoyed but i think of anything as a job and rads sure pays a heck of a lot more-just curious before its too late! thanks

Congrats on your Step 2 score. But I have to agree with the sentiments above. A high score doesn't make you competitive. A commitment to the field does that. Radiology interviews are one of the most stringent interviews out there. They will try to figure out if your true motivation is money, lifestyle, or love of the field. If you are just going for the lifestyle or money you will completely bomb the interview. Radiologists are one of the smartest physicians, they will study you and analyze you. That's what their training has sharpened. One of the cardinal traits of a radiologist is excellent observational skills. You will not fool a radiologist with your motive. Even if you do beat the system and match into radiology. You will regret it if your heart really isn't in to it. Let's see how much motivation you will have to study for the physics exam that 14% of the radiology residents flunk every year.

Also, Rads programs do not see Step 2 as a 2nd chance to "prove" yourself. The reason Rads programs focus so much on Step 1 is because there has been extensive research that shows a correlation between the written and oral boards to Step 1 success. There is NO correlation to Step 2 and Radiology Boards. One reason is because the amount of information during the 1st two years of radiology has about the same learning curve as the amount of information you must master the 1st two years of medical school. The volume is enormous. Also, there is quite a bit of basic science in radiology you have to have strong knowledge of anatomy, neuroanatomy, pathology, physiology etc.

Last point is this. Diagnostic Radiology is a 5 year program, and 75% of the residents go on to do a fellowship. Are you willing to read books for the next 5 years (or 7) of your life at night? No other specialty requires as much reading as radiology. If you chase lifestyle or money, you will be miserable reading "boring" books. That means you will be miserable for a half a decade. Even worse you will be absolutely miserable as a radiologist because you don't really have a passion for the field. And once you become miserable you will just go through the motions of being a radiologist and make misses, and might even succumb to depression because you might come to the conclusion that you spent about 13 years (4UG+4Med+5Rad Residency) of your life to train for something you don't like.

Furthermore, it is foolish to pursue lifestyle and/or money to go into radiology because those things are transient. Lifestyle is gone because of the advent of 64 slice CTs and 24 hour CT coverage. Reimbursement for images will be slashed. The government has already cracked down on outpatient radiology practices by cutting CT reimbursement by 40%. Take a look at the deficit reduction act that has passed and will go in effect in 2007.

With all that said, you have a good chance to match somewhere if you polish your marketing. Just remember the old adage. "Be careful what you wish for because it might come true". In this case, you will have invested over 13 years of your life for an academic radiology career that will pay (due to reimbursement cuts) the same amount as a ED physician with only 3 years of residency.

The ball is in your court. Let's see if you are willing to gamble your future on a specialty that is in transition with a downturn in salary.

 

[DHMO]

Congrats on your Step 2 score. But I have to agree with the sentiments above. A high score doesn't make you competitive. A commitment to the field does that. Radiology interviews are one of the most stringent interviews out there. They will try to figure out if your true motivation is money, lifestyle, or love of the field. If you are just going for the lifestyle or money you will completely bomb the interview. Radiologists are one of the smartest physicians, they will study you and analyze you. That's what their training has sharpened. One of the cardinal traits of a radiologist is excellent observational skills. You will not fool a radiologist with your motive. Even if you do beat the system and match into radiology. You will regret it if your heart really isn't in to it. Let's see how much motivation you will have to study for the physics exam that 14% of the radiology residents flunk every year.

Also, Rads programs do not see Step 2 as a 2nd chance to "prove" yourself. The reason Rads programs focus so much on Step 1 is because there has been extensive research that shows a correlation between the written and oral boards to Step 1 success. There is NO correlation to Step 2 and Radiology Boards. One reason is because the amount of information during the 1st two years of radiology has about the same learning curve as the amount of information you must master the 1st two years of medical school. The volume is enormous. Also, there is quite a bit of basic science in radiology you have to have strong knowledge of anatomy, neuroanatomy, pathology, physiology etc.

Last point is this. Diagnostic Radiology is a 5 year program, and 75% of the residents go on to do a fellowship. Are you willing to read books for the next 5 years (or 7) of your life at night? No other specialty requires as much reading as radiology. If you chase lifestyle or money, you will be miserable reading "boring" books. That means you will be miserable for a half a decade. Even worse you will be absolutely miserable as a radiologist because you don't really have a passion for the field. And once you become miserable you will just go through the motions of being a radiologist and make misses, and might even succumb to depression because you might come to the conclusion that you spent about 13 years (4UG+4Med+5Rad Residency) of your life to train for something you don't like.

Furthermore, it is foolish to pursue lifestyle and/or money to go into radiology because those things are transient. Lifestyle is gone because of the advent of 64 slice CTs and 24 hour CT coverage. Reimbursement for images will be slashed. The government has already cracked down on outpatient radiology practices by cutting CT reimbursement by 40%. Take a look at the deficit reduction act that has passed and will go in effect in 2007.

With all that said, you have a good chance to match somewhere if you polish your marketing. Just remember the old adage. "Be careful what you wish for because it might come true". In this case, you will have invested over 13 years of your life for an academic radiology career that will pay (due to reimbursement cuts) the same amount as a ED physician with only 3 years of residency.

The ball is in your court. Let's see if you are willing to gamble your future on a specialty that is in transition with a downturn in salary.

Very well said.

 

[hans19]

Step II of 250 is phenomenal! Congrats!

Now get over yourself.🙄

At the majority of places Step I counts more. And yes, I have been in on several ad com meetings.

Do the right thing for yourself, the field, your future colleagues, and you patients-- Do radiology only if its really what you want to do.
Good luck!

 

[Taurus]

...Let's see how much motivation you will have to study for the physics exam that 14% of the radiology residents flunk every year.

...One reason is because the amount of information during the 1st two years of radiology has about the same learning curve as the amount of information you must master the 1st two years of medical school. The volume is enormous. Also, there is quite a bit of basic science in radiology you have to have strong knowledge of anatomy, neuroanatomy, pathology, physiology etc.

...No other specialty requires as much reading as radiology. If you chase lifestyle or money, you will be miserable reading "boring" books...

If radiology residency is so rigorous intellectually, what is the % of residents who "flunk" out?

 

[hans19]

If radiology residency is so rigorous intellectually, what is the % of residents who "flunk" out?

Its like med school once you're in you're IN. No one forces you out, you quit... As far as standardized tests go, close to 20% failed physics last year. A similar percentage will fail writtens. And approximately 15% fail oral boards.

 

[sepsis]

Dear Hans,

Will you ever get to leave fluoro rm 6? 😉

Can you suggest any books/journals to read to warm up for PGY2? We will be getting B&H for free when we start.

Thanks!

 

[Taurus]

Its like med school once you're in you're IN. No one forces you out, you quit... As far as standardized tests go, close to 20% failed physics last year. A similar percentage will fail writtens. And approximately 15% fail oral boards.

Ok. Then what % of rad residents quit because they couldn't cut it? And for those who do quit, what residencies typically do they pursue afterwards?

 

[hans19]

Dear Hans,

Will you ever get to leave fluoro rm 6? 😉

Thanks!

But then I wouldn't be the Baron of barium. I'll never give up my throne!


Just take it easy and get comfortable with cross sectional anatomy. Fleckensteins atlas of radiology is pretty good for this. Applied Radiology is a great little publication, easy to read and very relavant. Its not on the bleeding edge fringe of research-- its stuff thats actually useful for the day to day practice of radiology. You get a free subscription once you are a resident.
The new edition of B and H is excellent. I don't think you really need anything else your first year...

Good luck and Congrats! You're in one of the best fields in medicine! 👍

 

[hans19]

Ok. Then what % of rad residents quit because they couldn't cut it? And for those who do quit, what residencies typically do they pursue afterwards?

Haven't you heard that lots of people try to switch into rads from another specialty, but you almost never hear of anyone switching out of radiology? Its not because the work is fascinating, it has nothing to do with the great compensation and vacation time.

Well let me let you in on a little secret... The week before radiology residency started, my class met with the Chairman (who made us call him 'Godfather'- it was bizarre). Before we signed our residency contracts we had to swear a blood oath and burn a picture of the Virgin Mary and they kiss a bullet with our name on it. The whole thing really creeped me out.

The only time people quit doing radiology is when they die! 😱

 

[aphistis]

well I was plugging along-passed all my first 2 years ande 3rd year with no honors, no research, top 40 school, no real special things about me-got a 220 on step 1 and planned my career and application around applying to a med-psych program and some psych programs cause that is what I like and knew a 220 was not good enough for something like rads-well I just got my step 2 scores back recently and got a 250-which is pretty good I thought-is that enough to make up for everything else and even though I only have like 1 rads elective late in my 4th year and no LORs towards rads-all mine are from medicine and psych profs-coudl i still take a stab at throwing some apps out to rads and see what happens? or is it pointless-rads is notwhat i enjoyed but i think of anything as a job and rads sure pays a heck of a lot more-just curious before its too late! thanks

250, huh?

Well I did decently on step 1 but was butt ass sick as a dog on test day and felt i could have done way better-I had a 218-I took step 2 and got my scores back recently and got a 241-so It is defeintly doable if you feel you can improve on step 1-take step 2 early and apply and it can make up for a subpar step 1-Especially if you felt anatomy and molecular bio were weak for you-which they were for me-i missed almost all anatomy and mol bio questions-there is none of that on step 2 yay! so anyway just some encouargment if you dont do as well as you did on step 1

[Source: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=4078090&postcount=1]

Will it be a 260 next week? 😉

 

[Taurus]

The only time people quit doing radiology is when they die! 😱

That's good to hear. Wasn't sure if there was an up-or-out system. I plan to do radiology til they carry me out in body bag. 😀

 

[fragilex]

250, huh?

Will it be a 260 next week? 😉

Well.. it was 220 and 235 on 8/21/06 according to this post:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=311575

At least the step 1 score is staying within 1 point of itself. It appears the step 2 score varies from 235-250 depending on the day of the month though.

For benefit of the doubt purposes however, it may just be multiple people using the same persons account with very similar step 1 scores.

 

[Tiki]

Well.. it was 220 and 235 on 8/21/06 according to this post:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=311575

At least the step 1 score is staying within 1 point of itself. It appears the step 2 score varies from 235-250 depending on the day of the month though.

For benefit of the doubt purposes however, it may just be multiple people using the same persons account with very similar step 1 scores.

 

[sepsis]

But then I wouldn't be the Baron of barium. I'll never give up my throne!


Just take it easy and get comfortable with cross sectional anatomy. Fleckensteins atlas of radiology is pretty good for this. Applied Radiology is a great little publication, easy to read and very relavant. Its not on the bleeding edge fringe of research-- its stuff thats actually useful for the day to day practice of radiology. You get a free subscription once you are a resident.
The new edition of B and H is excellent. I don't think you really need anything else your first year...

Good luck and Congrats! You're in one of the best fields in medicine! 👍

Many thanks Baron,

I thank my lucky stars every day. Intern year is already long.

As for your other post.... On one interview, I was given the "and all this could be yours" speech by the dept. chair.
I felt a part of a strange and sanctified club. They don't make first years drink contrast on a dare do they? 😛