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Just wanted to jump on here and give everybody hope. My son's stats were as follows, 27 MCAT, 3.68 GPA, 3.5 SGPA, applied to 8 DO schools, and 6 MD schools. he received 12 interviews, was accepted at 2, ( one MD and one DO), waitlisted at two more MD's. My son had research, is a Medical Scribe ( approx. a year), and donated a lot of time. Even though he had 12 interviews, His very first Interview, he was accepted at the DO of his choice, so he did not interview at the others. He accepted the MD offer. So do not let ANYONE tell you that you will not get in with a 27 MCAT.......(12 interviews folks) Thanks for your time
 
Daddy O said:
Just wanted to jump on here and give everybody hope. My son's stats were as follows, 27 MCAT, 3.68 GPA, 3.5 SGPA, applied to 8 DO schools, and 6 MD schools. he received 12 interviews, was accepted at 2, ( one MD and one DO), waitlisted at two more MD's. My son had research, is a Medical Scribe ( approx. a year), and donated a lot of time. Even though he had 12 interviews, His very first Interview, he was accepted at the DO of his choice, so he did not interview at the others. He accepted the MD offer. So do not let ANYONE tell you that you will not get in with a 27 MCAT.......(12 interviews folks) Thanks for your time
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Well pretty soon a 27 will get you no acceptances since all the old MCAT scores will be expired 😛

Congrats to your son!
 
Daddy O said:
Just wanted to jump on here and give everybody hope. My son's stats were as follows, 27 MCAT, 3.68 GPA, 3.5 SGPA, applied to 8 DO schools, and 6 MD schools. he received 12 interviews, was accepted at 2, ( one MD and one DO), waitlisted at two more MD's. My son had research, is a Medical Scribe ( approx. a year), and donated a lot of time. Even though he had 12 interviews, His very first Interview, he was accepted at the DO of his choice, so he did not interview at the others. He accepted the MD offer. So do not let ANYONE tell you that you will not get in with a 27 MCAT.......(12 interviews folks) Thanks for your time
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Disadvantaged or URM? We need the full story.
 
I surmise that Admissions deans have a fondness for academically excelling athletes. My wily old Admissions dean sure does.


Daddy O said:
My son is white, went to University of Michigan Dearborn and was a 4 year basketballer
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With your son's stats, he had a 45% chance to get a single MD acceptance. There are people who get in with lower than average stats but if you're a premed reading this, don't fool yourself by thinking you're going to get accepted with a 27 and a 3.7 just because someone else did.
 
Goro said:
OPs son's MCAT score is circling the drain for MD schools, but he may live in a lucky state, like TX, LA or KS, where the 10th %iles of the MCAT go down as low as 25-27.
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Any hopefuls reading this should know that home turf has a lot to do with it. I'm fortunate to be from NM with strong ties to TX. I think I would've been dead if I was from Cali.
 
I wouldnt call anything here that shocking.

3.6/27 and if he is a Michigan resident he has several state schools with lower 10th percentile MCATs. He has ECs that he could spin into a compelling narrative if done correctly. I dont have the charts in front of me but Im guessing based on historical precedent about 35-40% of people with these stats/race get accepted somewhere. I wouldnt consider being part of the 35-40% of a pool that shocking, even more so if he had a strong grade trend.

I do agree though in general these "look accepted with X MCAT" can be highly misleading as such applicants are often not representative of the majority of an applicant pool and n=1 anecodtes in general have limitations.
 
Goro said:
I surmise that Admissions deans have a fondness for academically excelling athletes. My wily old Admissions dean sure does.
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May I just say that the bolded part of your quote is one of my favorite terms you use; it makes me laugh every time as I visualize your dean. That and "my learned colleague" are my favorite.
 
Indeed. With Oakland B, Western MI, and Central MI, plus possibly Wayne State, MI is a state that would be amenable to a Wolverine with a 27 MCAT.





GrapesofRath said:
I wouldnt call anything here that shocking.

3.6/27. If he is a Michigan resident he has several state schools with lower 10th percentile MCATs. He has ECs that he could spin into a compelling narrative if done correctly. Historically, I dont have the charts in front of me but Im guessing about 35-40% of people with these stats/race get accepted somewhere. I wouldnt consider being part of the 35-40% of a pool that shocking, even more so if he had a strong grade trend.

I do agree though in general these "look accepted with X MCAT" are highly misleading as such applicants are often not representative of the majority of an applicant pool and n=1 anecodtes in general have limitations.
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Goro said:
Indeed. With Oakland B, Western MI, and Central MI, plus possibly Wayne State, MI is a state that would be amenable to a Wolverine with a 27 MCAT.
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https://www.aamc.org/download/321466/data/factstablea5.pdf

Going through this chart just off the top of my head I would list Vermont, PA(TCMC), Illinois(SIU), Indiana, Kansas, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, maybe WI, Alabama, Ark, FL(FSU), Kentucky, LA, MS, NC(Brody), Oklahoma, South Carolina, TN, Texas, WV, Nevada, New Mexico, and perhaps a few other ones where someone getting accepted with a 27 isnt really that surprising. I must have listed at least half the states in the US right there. Lucky states are more common than people think.
 
I think the takeaway of this thread should be:

Yes people do get in with subpar stats, but planning on getting in with those will spell a bad time and much disappointment.

Congrats to your son OP, but those of you Premeds like myself, shooting for the bare minimum is a bad idea and should not be your mindset
 
caffeinemia said:
I really like watching how SDN will analyze the sheer happiness out of every single post. The schadenfreud gets me off.
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Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but this fun-sucking analysis also likely saved several high schoolers/pre meds who otherwise might have gone "schweet gonna blow off MCAT+school next semester."

I know someone who got into Harvard UG with a 3.0 hs GPA. Doesn't mean anything, really.
 
md-2020 said:
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but this fun-sucking analysis also likely saved several high schoolers/pre meds who otherwise might have gone "schweet gonna blow off MCAT+school next semester."

I know someone who got into Harvard UG with a 3.0 hs GPA. Doesn't mean anything, really.
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You really studied MCAT as a high schooler? Wow, makes the fun I had in college and high school feel even better! Thanks, nerdtron.
 
Dermpire said:
May I just say that the bolded part of your quote is one of my favorite terms you use; it makes me laugh every time as I visualize your dean. That and "my learned colleague" are my favorite.
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Agreed. Mostly because I know of a couple deans that fit the "wily old" category extremely well. Same can be said of a couple department chairs.
 
Astra118 said:
I think the takeaway of this thread should be:

Yes people do get in with subpar stats, but planning on getting in with those will spell a bad time and much disappointment.

Congrats to your son OP, but those of you Premeds like myself, shooting for the bare minimum is a bad idea and should not be your mindset
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Although I tend to not be a fan of threads degenerating into negativity, I will agree that the reality check is probably necessary for pre-meds reading this.

I never planned on getting a 29. I was aiming for the low to mid-30's. Lucky for me, I was able to receive some love. I know plenty of people with 29's who did not make it.
 
Astra118 said:
I think the takeaway of this thread should be:

Yes people do get in with subpar stats, but planning on getting in with those will spell a bad time and much disappointment.

Congrats to your son OP, but those of you Premeds like myself, shooting for the bare minimum is a bad idea and should not be your mindset
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Exactly, I don't think the message here is, "you can slack off and still be fine". Obviously OP points to scenarios where maybe MCAT or grades didn't go as well as you'd hoped, but you stick it out anyway.

Congrats to your son, OP. You should be very proud!
 
I honestly had no idea how competitive med school admissions were as a freshman in college. I think all schools should show average matriculant statistics to incoming pre-med students so they know what they're getting into. Maybe buy their students an MSAR subscription so the numbers become real and tangible.
 
caffeinemia said:
You really studied MCAT as a high schooler? Wow, makes the fun I had in college and high school feel even better! Thanks, nerdtron.
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md-2020 said:
Lol dude if that's the take away you got from my post maybe you shouldve gone to a few more high school literacy classes yourself.
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He prolly needs to reup on the caffeine
 
friend had a 27 got interviews to 8 or 9 MD schools.

I had a 32. 1 MD interview. zero acceptances.

lady luck isn't always on every applicant's side!
 
Im76at711 said:
friend had a 27 got interviews to 8 or 9 MD schools.

I had a 32. 1 MD interview. zero acceptances.

lady luck isn't always on every applicant's side!
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In this case, I am wondering how much of it was due to "luck".

How were your guys' EC's when compared to each other? URM status for your friend?
 
Astra118 said:
In this case, I am wondering how much of it was due to "luck".

How were your guys' EC's when compared to each other? URM status for your friend?
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My ECs were very solid. very very solid.
IDK about his. he was URM (I think he was columbian, born and raised there for bit)!
 
http://www.netstate.com/states/intro/mi_intro.htm

The Wolverine State
It has been generally accepted that Michigan was nicknamed "The Wolverine State" for the abundance of wolverines that once roamed the peninsula. However, according to the Michigan Historical Center, wolverines were very rare in Michigan if they were present at all. It's not clear how this nickname originated, but there are two theories.

Some think the nickname was originated by Ohioans in 1835 during a dispute over an Ohio/Michigan boundary called the "Toledo Strip." This dispute became known as the Toledo War. Though Michigan and Ohio both sent troops to the area, no shots were ever fired. It's said that Ohioans, at that time, referred to Michiganians as "...as vicious and bloodthirsty as wolverines."

Another theory is proposed that Native Americans compared the way that settlers were taking land, in the 1830s, to the way the excessively greedy wolverine went after its food.

Affiche said:
No. Just no.

University of Michigan= Wolverines.
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Goro said:
http://www.netstate.com/states/intro/mi_intro.htm

The Wolverine State
It has been generally accepted that Michigan was nicknamed "The Wolverine State" for the abundance of wolverines that once roamed the peninsula. However, according to the Michigan Historical Center, wolverines were very rare in Michigan if they were present at all. It's not clear how this nickname originated, but there are two theories.

Some think the nickname was originated by Ohioans in 1835 during a dispute over an Ohio/Michigan boundary called the "Toledo Strip." This dispute became known as the Toledo War. Though Michigan and Ohio both sent troops to the area, no shots were ever fired. It's said that Ohioans, at that time, referred to Michiganians as "...as vicious and bloodthirsty as wolverines."

Another theory is proposed that Native Americans compared the way that settlers were taking land, in the 1830s, to the way the excessively greedy wolverine went after its food.
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Still no. If you refer to a Wolverine in Michigan it's definitely understood to be a UofM grad 😉
 
Swish16 said:
With your son's stats, he had a 45% chance to get a single MD acceptance. There are people who get in with lower than average stats but if you're a premed reading this, don't fool yourself by thinking you're going to get accepted with a 27 and a 3.7 just because someone else did.
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Also on the waitlist for Mich State (MD), and Wayne State (MD)
 
Affiche said:
Michigan-Dearborn is not a real Wolverine.
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You are the reason everyone else in the state of Michigan thinks people that went to Michigan are stuck up snobs, congrats! As a UM-Dearborn alum, I had AT LEAST 10 professors that were also professors at Ann Arbor. Same education, 10k cheaper, same degree, they are both wolverines. Do a little research snob. Anyways, Go blue.
 
michdoc said:
You are the reason everyone else in the state of Michigan thinks people that went to Michigan are stuck up snobs, congrats! As a UM-Dearborn alum, I had AT LEAST 10 professors that were also professors at Ann Arbor. Same education, 10k cheaper, same degree, they are both wolverines. Do a little research snob. Anyways, Go blue.
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You're acting like a fool. It's important to note that he went to a satellite location so that no one can make the argument that OP's son only got in with a 27 because he went to a big name university. If you read the thread, Goro made a post that a Michigan-based school might have s soft spot for a wolverine, but actually his school's name had nothing to do with his acceptances. Quit being so defensive.
 
Affiche said:
You're acting like a fool. It's important to note that he went to a satellite location so that no one can make the argument that OP's son only got in with a 27 because he went to a big name university. If you read the thread, Goro made a post that a Michigan-based school might have s soft spot for a wolverine, but actually his school's name had nothing to do with his acceptances. Quit being so defensive.
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Actually, it may have, as the degree from the "satellite" school says "University of Michigan" just like yours. Get off your high horse, no one cares that you paid more to go to school and live in Ann Arbor...
 
michdoc said:
Actually, it may have, as the degree from the "satellite" school says "University of Michigan" just like yours. Get off your high horse, no one cares that you paid more to go to school and live in Ann Arbor...
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I was on full scholarship, but good try 😉

And no, you did not have the same education. You had different professors, different exams and your degree is from UM-Dearborn. There's nothing wrong with attending a satellite but it is a satellite.
 
Affiche said:
your degree is from UM-Dearborn
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Hate to burst your bubble, but the degree says University of Michigan and it is signed by president Schlissel. I know this may come as a shock...
 
michdoc said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but the degree says University of Michigan and it is signed by president Schlissel. I know this may come as a shock...
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And when you apply to medical school you indicate which campus you attended.

Your insecurity over which school you attended is leading you to misunderstand. If OP's son went to a satellite location, it's more impressive that he got in with those numbers. Dearborn students don't have the same research opportunities (the big names stay at the main campus), professors (again, the big names stay at the main campus), or the name recognition (satellite locations are less selective in admissions).
 
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