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Changes will cut costs and wait times

Published : Sunday, 17 Apr 2011, 10:40 PM MDT
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (KRQE) - If you have ever stepped foot in a hospital emergency room, you know the wait can be a long one. Now one local hospital is changing its ER operations and it's not just to reduce the wait. People go to the ER for all kinds of reasons, but sometimes it's not for an emergency and that ends up costing everyone more money. Now Presbyterian Hospital thinks it's found a way to cut those costs and the wait without sacrificing quality care.

Hamp Porter of Grants traveled to Presbyterian's emergency room in Albuquerque on Sunday for an infection on his foot. He witnessed the changes the hospital has made first hand. After being treated by an ER doctor Porter wasn't just sent on his way, he was sent down the hall to the Patient Navigator's Office. "I was like wondering, what's a navigator?" Porter said, "They told me they're the ones that would make the appointment for me, the follow up." Scheduling follow up appointments is just one of the many things the navigator's office does.

Presbyterian has eight ‘navigators' who work 24 hours a day, seven days a week at both the main campus and the Kaseman ER in the northeast heights. The navigator's primary job is to direct ER patients who don't really have an emergency to a primary care provider or an urgent care. "It lowers the wait in the emergency room, so those patients that do have emergent issues can be seen," said patient navigator Roberta Sanchez. It also lowers the patient's bill and eventually the hospital says it will lower everyone else's too, since the high cost of emergency care is passed onto everyone else.

Here's how the program works.

Every patient that goes to the emergency room still gets a thorough screening and its during that process that a provider decides if they need to be treated at the ER or if they can be sent to a navigator instead. Providers in the emergency room said while every patient is different, for the most part they are sending people with colds, minor coughs, sore throats and minor sprains and strains to navigators.

"We have access to scheduling for all of our medical group doctors so we can schedule them an appointment," Sanchez said. Presbyterian has 491 providers in their system, that gives patients a lot of options and if patients have no insurance, it's no problem. "We're able to get them a primary care doctor as well as sending them out to an urgent care free of charge as long as they go and get the care that they need within the 72 hours," Sanchez said.

Another big part of the navigator's job is telling patients what the emergency room should be used for. Sanchez said a lot of the people who end up in her office either don't have a primary care doctor, or don't know where to go to get care. "We educate them on the emergency usage. It's very important so they don't continue to come back for a non-emergent issue," Sanchez said. The hospital started the program in July, 2010, in short 9 months; navigators have seen more than 10,000 patients.

"It's easier than 1, 2, 3," Porter said of the program, "I mean they're doing it for me, I don't have to lift a finger."

When the program first started, the idea seemed a little intimidating for ER nurse practitioner Liz Hansen. It's her job to determine if a patient should stay and be treated in the emergency room or go to the navigators. "The concern was, are they actually going to get follow up in a timely manner, are they actually going to leave here and go to where we tell them," Hansen said.

Turns out they are. Navigators said so far only three percent of all the patients who've come through these doors have come back and been navigated again. For Hamp Porter, the program took the weight of figuring out follow-up care off his shoulders. "I don't even have to make a phone call," he said, "they're going to do all that for me."

The program does cost Presbyterian money up front, but the hospital expects to save $10 to $15 million over the next five years because of it. This is one of the only programs of its kind in the country, other hospitals may give referrals but few actually set up appointments for the patients. So far the hospital said only two formal complaints have been filed with them about the Patient Navigator's Office.

Video:

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/health/presbyterian-changing-er-operations
 
Great concept.

Now, they need to place a "Navigator" in every ambulance. no more taking ambulance to the ER for a pregnancy test.
 
I would be curious to see how quickly a pt can be seen after seeing a pt navigator. The process sounds like a great idea and seems to be an effective way to tell the pt that they don't need to be there, while getting them into a PCP where they really need to be.

How thorough are these pts evaluated before being punted to the navigator? It would seem rather redundant to have them worked up twice for the same complaint.
 
Aurora Sinai Medical Center's ED implemented a program similar to Presbyterian's program, in which they help patients "access primary care docs" and last I heard has been very successful. (They also did it before Presbyterian)
U. Chicago tried to do this, but failed.
The key to Aurora Sinai Medical Center success was most likely was due to managing PR successfully (ie. "we're not dumping patients") and obtaining community support.
 
During one of my internal medicine months we had something similar, one person whose only job was making follow up appointments for patients. It was amazing, you would just go to her and say "this guy needs an ortho and neuro follow up" and she'd take care of it. It really helped get patients discharged and freed us up for clinical work.

It's all about good discharge planning, otherwise people just bounce right back.
 
Looks like the NP is the the "qualified medical professional" providing the "medical screening examination."

I agree with you on some level. I think an NP is qualified to determine if the condition is not acutely life threatening or emergent. She might not be able to tell you what the exact emergent situation is or how to resolve it, but I think she can recognize it at a minimum. Why don't they just put an urgent care center next to the ER and send non-emergency people there?
 
I agree with you on some level. I think an NP is qualified to determine if the condition is not acutely life threatening or emergent. She might not be able to tell you what the exact emergent situation is or how to resolve it, but I think she can recognize it at a minimum. Why don't they just put an urgent care center next to the ER and send non-emergency people there?


Some EDs do have an "urgent care center." For example, UMass Medical Center has one run by the ED to take care of "non-emergency" patients.
 
We have an Urgent Care as well, staffed with PAs supervised by mostly FM docs - but it's not the same as a community Urgent Care when you have to pay up front. It's basically an extension of the ED, not a place to which we direct people with non-emergent conditions after a screening exam.

It's a few hundred yards down the road in a separate building. It's an odd setup.
 
I can see the benefit for getting the uninsured out of the ED. But we make a killing on people with insurance who "don't need to be seen in the ED." Heck, aside from the usual urgent care type stuff most of my chest pain and abdominal pain didn't need to be seen in the ED.

The issue I see is if these primary care docs will see an uninsured patient for free this one time, will they continue to see them for free? Probably not. So what are we doing? We're sending our quick and easy money cases to primary care docs-the insured ones will stay there and the uninsured ones will come back to us. Maybe not so wise from a business model point of view.
 
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