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For many of us, the internship interview process is winding down, and it's time to think about ranking! Rank Day is 2/9, and boy am I relieved to get this over with.

I want to throw out a question about how you are ranking your sites. I know we are supposed to rank by preference, but I am having a hard time even determining my order of preference! For example, I can categorize my sites into top 50% and bottom 50%, but they're not in any particular order within those categories. I've heard that some interns develop an algorithm (based on location, prestige, etc), while others just went by gut feeling. Could some of you share the process that you are using to rank sites (or to current interns/post-docs, how did you determine your rank order)?
 
This probably depends alot on how many interviews (ie., potential sites) one has. For me, a major ranking factor is location. I have 2 interviews in my hometown-a nice, mid-sized, Midwestern city. I actually like one of the other sites slightly better than these 2, but as of right now, its not enough to trump the location factor. Plus, the 2 sites in my hometown are perfectly fine and basically posses all that I really need. With a wife who wants to settle down and start a family its a major plus to get an internship in my hometown because it will save us from yet another move since we know we would try to get back there anyway.
 
I'll agree with erg in that location is going to play a significant role in my selection process. I'd like to return to my hometown if at all possible, and thus I may decide to rank sites near it geographically higher than other sites I may have actually enjoyed interviewing at more.

However, I should definitely preface the above statement by saying that thus far, I haven't yet interviewed anywhere I wouldn't be happy interning (with respect to the apparent quality of training, prestige of the programs, and ability to place interns in post doc positions). Since I've liked all of the sites up to this point, location is really one of the only separating factors I've got to work with.
 
"Fit" and location are my big two.

My biggest personal decision is how high to rank fit and geography, too. I found a great match "fit wise", if you would, on the west coast, but ideally want to re-locate and settle in the east coast. Had interviews at two sites I definately liked east, but, while both seemed good in many respects, didn't have quite as strong overall strong feel as the one in the west coast.

Any thoughts from others who have done this before? Fit or location?

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I'll agree with erg in that location is going to play a significant role in my selection process. I'd like to return to my hometown if at all possible, and thus I may decide to rank sites near it geographically higher than other sites I may have actually enjoyed interviewing at more.

However, I should definitely preface the above statement by saying that thus far, I haven't yet interviewed anywhere I wouldn't be happy interning (with respect to the apparent quality of training, prestige of the programs, and ability to place interns in post doc positions). Since I've liked all of the sites up to this point, location is really one of the only separating factors I've got to work with.
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aagman01 said:
"Fit" and location are my big two.

My biggest personal decision is how high to rank fit and geography, too. I found a great match "fit wise", if you would, on the west coast, but ideally want to re-locate and settle in the east coast. Had interviews at two sites I definately liked east, but, while both seemed good in many respects, didn't have quite as strong overall strong feel as the one in the west coast.

Any thoughts from others who have done this before? Fit or location?
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I'm struggling with the exact same issue myself at the moment--one of the sites I visited would definitely be in my top 3 training-wise, but because of its distance from my hometown, I am having to consider ranking it lower than a few programs which are closer to where I'd like to end up.

In the end, I'll likely make my rankings based heavily on location. Although again, this is due in large part to the fact that even though I had a slightly more positive "gut reaction" to some sites vs. others, I would be very happy to end up at any that I've visited thus far.
 
thanks for responding to my inquiry! Similar to many of you, location matters a lot to me too.

My current dilemma: I interviewed at 2 sites (that are considered pretty prestigious and provides awesome training) in my current city and I love both sites (this also means I don't have to uproot my life, make new friends, etc.). They're university-affiliated hospitals so the training is well-rounded and the sites are reputable enough to have good post-doc placements. However, I also interviewed at 3 VAs on the West coast (the VAs in my city were meh to me). I have always wanted to relocate and eventually settle down on the West Coast. The training at a VA is quite different from a uni-based hospital. I am excite by the prospects of exploring a new city + planning a career in the VA system (lots of VA interns stay on as VA post-docs and then faculty). I can't go wrong with any of these 5 sites but how to rank them in the order of MY preference? What do you do when you like them equally? And how are you guys deciding on the exact position of the ranking of the sites in your hometown or in the city of your preference?

By the way, there is a sort of objective way of doing it by listing important criteria to you, setting a weight for each criterion, and then rating each site by these criteria. One intern told me she did this last year, but she ended up going by her gut feelings for each site. So I'm not sure how useful this process actually is. 😕

aagman01 said:
"Fit" and location are my big two.

My biggest personal decision is how high to rank fit and geography, too. I found a great match "fit wise", if you would, on the west coast, but ideally want to re-locate and settle in the east coast. Had interviews at two sites I definately liked east, but, while both seemed good in many respects, didn't have quite as strong overall strong feel as the one in the west coast.

Any thoughts from others who have done this before? Fit or location?
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You could try the mental exercise of imagining yourself hearing back on match day that you'd been selected at each of the sites in question, and attempting to gauge the level of knee-jerk excitement/disappointment felt in each case.

Also, with respect to VA vs. academic medical center, think about if either type of site "culture" is better suited to your personality characteristics and work habits. VA sites are obviously often excellent training programs as a whole, and can be particularly well suited for preparing interns for VA employment. However, as you've said, it's not like medical centers aren't equally great overall.

If you plan on ending up on the west coast long-term, then interning there does provide the opportunity for increased networking with local providers. Also, the programs' professional development didactics (e.g., licensing, business/billing practices) might be particularly helpful if you plan on staying in the same city/state where you've interned, as would any informal tips and tricks you could solicit from training staff.

arsesta said:
thanks for responding to my inquiry! Similar to many of you, location matters a lot to me too.

My current dilemma: I interviewed at 2 sites (that are considered pretty prestigious and provides awesome training) in my current city and I love both sites (this also means I don't have to uproot my life, make new friends, etc.). They're university-affiliated hospitals so the training is well-rounded and the sites are reputable enough to have good post-doc placements. However, I also interviewed at 3 VAs on the West coast (the VAs in my city were meh to me). I have always wanted to relocate and eventually settle down on the West Coast. The training at a VA is quite different from a uni-based hospital. I am excite by the prospects of exploring a new city + planning a career in the VA system (lots of VA interns stay on as VA post-docs and then faculty). I can't go wrong with any of these 5 sites but how to rank them in the order of MY preference? What do you do when you like them equally? And how are you guys deciding on the exact position of the ranking of the sites in your hometown or in the city of your preference?

By the way, there is a sort of objective way of doing it by listing important criteria to you, setting a weight for each criterion, and then rating each site by these criteria. One intern told me she did this last year, but she ended up going by her gut feelings for each site. So I'm not sure how useful this process actually is. 😕
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Arsesta, if you are interested in settling in the West Coast anyway then you may as well get a jump start. You'd have to eventually uproot anyhow. Also, if you even think you'd like a VA career, it is much easier to get in as an intern than later on. You can always transition back to a med center (an easier process) if it turns out to not be your thing. As for a weight system, I'd second your hunch that it is really fit (professional and personal) that wins out at 11:59pm the night before rank deadlines. :laugh:

Best of luck however you rank.
 
AcronymAllergy said:
You could try the mental exercise of imagining yourself hearing back on match day that you'd been selected at each of the sites in question, and attempting to gauge the level of knee-jerk excitement/disappointment felt in each case.
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Haha! I swear my best friend and I did something similar last year. We emailed each other with hypothetical match results to gauge our reactions. By the time match day really came, we'd already fake screamed our excitement away.:laugh:
 
O Gurl said:
Haha! I swear my best friend and I did something similar last year. We emailed each other with hypothetical match results to gauge our reactions. By the time match day really came, we'd already fake screamed our excitement away.:laugh:
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:laugh: Hrm, I may have to remember this one for when the day comes.
 
arsesta said:
thanks for responding to my inquiry! Similar to many of you, location matters a lot to me too.



By the way, there is a sort of objective way of doing it by listing important criteria to you, setting a weight for each criterion, and then rating each site by these criteria. One intern told me she did this last year, but she ended up going by her gut feelings for each site. So I'm not sure how useful this process actually is. 😕
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I have also had a hard time deciding between close sites. I developed a spreadsheet with each of the sites names and then they are ranked on likert scales based on how important each category is for me. Higher scores are always better. For example this is how my weighted rankings work:
Fit is on a likert scale of 1 to 8 with 8 being the most desirable and 1 the least
Location in on a 1 to 7 scale
Training is also on a 1 to 7 scale
Salary is on a 1 to 5 scale ( in 2,000 increments- 5 paying 28,000+)
Facilities is on a 1 to 3 scale
Cost of Living is also on a 1 to 3 scale
Benefits is 0 or 1

So this is my preference in rating, you could weight them according to your unique preferences. I will still end up going with my gut feeling but this helps me sort through things that are important to me. So when I total it up here is what my top site might look like:
Fit
8
Location
7
Training
6
Salary
4
Facilities
2
Cost of Living
3
Benefits
1


So my total for that site is 31. I go through each site like this and it gives me a basic ranking structure that I can then ponder over. Benefits are only slightly important to me since I have health insurance through my husband. I also only applied to internships that were in affordable areas so there is less spread on this for me. Others may weight these more heavily. So that's the basic way I do it for those wanting a system. All that to say that I currently have 4 tied for second place so not sure how much it helps.😉
 
O Gurl said:
Haha! I swear my best friend and I did something similar last year. We emailed each other with hypothetical match results to gauge our reactions. By the time match day really came, we'd already fake screamed our excitement away.:laugh:
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Love, love this idea. I am going to send my friends some "match" notices today as a surprise.
 
I developed a weighted system, similar to psychgal, though in the end I went with my gut. I think it helped tease out what I really found important. As long as it is APA and remotely in an area you can handle for a year, I wouldn't worry too much (unless you have a family....then that gets more complicated).
 
love the imaginal exercises! I know my friends who applied last yr did a similar thing and really helped them narrow down the top choices.

and thank you psychgal for posting your criteria! i like how you separated cost of living from salary and benefits (i kind of lumped them all together as "quality of life" which included hrs/work wk and other misc stuff; maybe it's better to have them separate). I am posting mine below (a little too many right?), and I rate each one on a scale from 1 (least important) - 10 (most important) and I rate each criterion on a scale from 1 (doesn't fulfill at all) - 10 (completely fulfills). I multiple these 2 #s to get a weighted # and then add up all the weighted sums. Is this a little insane? Do I have too much time on my hands????

Location (9/10); use of EBT/CBT (9); Quality of life (8); trauma work (8); testing opportunities (7); health psych/CL opportunities (7); supervision quantity and quality (7); research (5); no need for a car (5); post-docs (5); LT cases (4); psychodynamic work (4); quality of seminars (3); child cases (2)
 
Geez...........your know your on the road to being a psychologist when you create Likert evaluations to determine internship preferences 🙂

With that said, I did a similar thing in narrowing down my list of internship sites to apply to, and will likely do the same for my rankings :laugh:

Thanks everyone....feels good to know I am not alone and that others are experiencing similar challenges with all of this!!!:laugh:



psychgal said:
I have also had a hard time deciding between close sites. I developed a spreadsheet with each of the sites names and then they are ranked on likert scales based on how important each category is for me. Higher scores are always better. For example this is how my weighted rankings work:
Fit is on a likert scale of 1 to 8 with 8 being the most desirable and 1 the least
Location in on a 1 to 7 scale
Training is also on a 1 to 7 scale
Salary is on a 1 to 5 scale ( in 2,000 increments- 5 paying 28,000+)
Facilities is on a 1 to 3 scale
Cost of Living is also on a 1 to 3 scale
Benefits is 0 or 1

So this is my preference in rating, you could weight them according to your unique preferences. I will still end up going with my gut feeling but this helps me sort through things that are important to me. So when I total it up here is what my top site might look like:
Fit
8
Location
7
Training
6
Salary
4
Facilities
2
Cost of Living
3
Benefits
1


So my total for that site is 31. I go through each site like this and it gives me a basic ranking structure that I can then ponder over. Benefits are only slightly important to me since I have health insurance through my husband. I also only applied to internships that were in affordable areas so there is less spread on this for me. Others may weight these more heavily. So that's the basic way I do it for those wanting a system. All that to say that I currently have 4 tied for second place so not sure how much it helps.😉
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This discussion ended 3 years ago now and I think it might be fruitful for current applicants, so I'm bumping it.

I think I have a sense of my rankings (2 interviews left so I'm proceeding with an open mind). I'm making the bold choice to do what I want, even though I'm not sure it will please my advisor.
 
sardonic said:
This discussion ended 3 years ago now and I think it might be fruitful for current applicants, so I'm bumping it.

I think I have a sense of my rankings (2 interviews left so I'm proceeding with an open mind). I'm making the bold choice to do what I want, even though I'm not sure it will please my advisor.
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I'm with you, sardonic. I have two interviews left, but think I have a good idea of what I want to do. I'm think I'm going to go with my gut.
 
Internship can mean alot for ones career.... or practically nothing. All this depends on ones career goals. My VA internship was integral in my ability to beat out the competition (in some cases very seasoned local psychologists) for my current VA job one year post phd. I have used that (and my subsequent position now) to "sell/market" my skills and competence in evidence based practice and standards. This allowed me obtain an academic faculty position right out of internship (which I left, obviously, but that's a different story) and to pick up various side consulting and review gigs.

Nevertheless, I primarily ranked sites based on location as noted above. 😉 Didn't get the hometown sites but we relocated there the next year and now have two wonderfully exhausting children.
 
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I chose internship and postdoc purely on what it would do for my career. My internship site had a very big name in my field who I worked under, and my postdoc was a very good site that also had some big names attached, and had some good research going on. I imagine I did something right with my now job holding the position open for me for 8-9 months while I finished postdoc.

In the end, you have to do what's right for you, I chose to maximize career flexibility during internship and postdoc so that my subsequent career options would be greater. I also didn't have any family obligations at the time, so it was easy for me to pick up and move.
 
Is anybody choosing not to rank certain sites they interviewed at? I have two sites that I think I would be very unhappy at, even for a year. But, the thought of taking sites off my list makes me so anxious because of the possibility of not matching. Is it better to take the chance of matching somewhere you really don't want to be or to risk not matching at all?
 
Psychwomen said:
Is it better to take the chance of matching somewhere you really don't want to be or to risk not matching at all?
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That's a wholly personal decision, but I would prefer to wait a year. That said, they would truly have to be sites I abhor.
 
As long as the site is APA-acred...I'd have a hard time not ranking a site. If I were a minority (e.g. gender, racial, etc) and I felt uncomfortable...that may be the only reason, but otherwise I think I could make almost any site work for a year. Obviously it is a very personal decision, but I'd want at least 8-10 sites on my final list. I had 13-14 and ranked them all, even though at least two or three were not a very good fit. I matched to one of the best fits for me, so it all worked out...but I already missed matching on my first go around for match (after getting 7-8 interviews at top notch AMC programs), so I didn't feel like I had room for error.
 
Therapist4Chnge said:
As long as the site is APA-acred...I'd have a hard time not ranking a site. If I were a minority (e.g. gender, racial, etc) and I felt uncomfortable...that may be the only reason, but otherwise I think I could make almost any site work for a year. Obviously it is a very personal decision, but I'd want at least 8-10 sites on my final list. I had 13-14 and ranked them all, even though at least two or three were not a very good fit. I matched to one of the best fits for me, so it all worked out...but I already missed matching on my first go around for match (after getting 7-8 interviews at top notch AMC programs), so I didn't feel like I had room for error.
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This was my personal thinking as well. I had one site that I very seriously considered not ranking based on the fact that it didn't look like it would've met my training and career goals, but I ended up sticking it at the bottom of my list anyway. I want to say my final count was 9 or 10 sites. As with T4C, it ended up being a moot point for me. Looking back on it, I can see arguments on both sides as to whether it would've been better to go there or to wait a year and apply again. If I'd been earlier in my training (e.g., 4th year), waiting might've been better; however, I'd been in grad school for long enough at that point, and was ready to move on regardless.
 
My question is slightly off topic: Just out of curiosity, do training directors know/get access to info that wold tell them where else we interviewed (or applied)? I had two interviews where the asked questions related to that kind of info, i.e., wanting to find out whether I also applied to Y which was affiliated with site X where I interviewed, f.e.
Good luck all!!
 
skinnerboy said:
My question is slightly off topic: Just out of curiosity, do training directors know/get access to info that wold tell them where else we interviewed (or applied)? I had two interviews where the asked questions related to that kind of info, i.e., wanting to find out whether I also applied to Y which was affiliated with site X where I interviewed, f.e.
Good luck all!!
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As far as I know, no. However, I believe sites that rank you will ultimately see where you've matched (if you don't match with them).
 
AcronymAllergy said:
As far as I know, no. However, I believe sites that rank you will ultimately see where you've matched (if you don't match with them).
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Training directors do not have any access to where you applied or were interviewed; they only learn whether candidates they ranked matched and where and only when they receive their own Match results.
 
Did anyone ever discuss a late start date with potential internship sites? If so, how did you do so? I am expecting my third child in late spring, and one site has a particularly early start date.
 
AcronymAllergy said:
Looking back on it, I can see arguments on both sides as to whether it would've been better to go there or to wait a year and apply again. If I'd been earlier in my training (e.g., 4th year), waiting might've been better; however, I'd been in grad school for long enough at that point, and was ready to move on regardless.
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This is a good point. My first go around I was on the fence with applying (during my 4th yr). I pushed/rushed to meet deadlines in my research to get the "ok" from my DCT to apply. In retrospect I should have been more patient and taken more time to round out my training. The entire process is stressful and not something a person would want to do more than once, so unless you interviewed at a truly toxic site…I'd say rank them just in case.
 
The site I am questioning is in fact an APA site, but not in the most racially diverse part of the country. I would normally be okay with this, as I've been the only person of color before. But, at this site, the interviewers came off cold and distant and slightly condescending. So, I need to really think about if I can be in a place for a year that has that kind of vibe. Also, I am wondering how easy it will be to form some type of social support in a pretty conservative city. T4C...seeing that you ranked 7-8 sites the first time around and didn't match is scary! I have 12 interviews and not ranking the aforementioned site would bring me down to 11 sites to rank. But, then I think of the horror stories of people with 10 or more interviews who still don't match...ugh!
 
Psychwomen said:
T4C...seeing that you ranked 7-8 sites the first time around and didn't match is scary! I have 12 interviews and not ranking the aforementioned site would bring me down to 11 sites to rank. But, then I think of the horror stories of people with 10 or more interviews who still don't match...ugh!
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I think one thing that negatively impacted my chances of matching were mediocre fits at 2-3 of the sites, which cut down my list from 7-8 to 4-6 for sites I felt good about. I felt the mediocre/poor fit during my interviews and I'm sure that came across (at some level). I didn't do a great job of really vetting sites the first time through, so when it came to actually explaining how I'd be a great fit…I wasn't. This was the biggest differences from my first and second application cycle. On my second application cycle I spent more time sorting through sites and site materials and really trying to identify what I wanted from the training and how my current training positioned me to be successful in a given rotation (with room to grow/learn/develop).

I decided to solicit feedback from 3 Internship Directors shortly after the process was over, as I wanted to better understand what went wrong. I chose the 3 based on what I thought were the best fit sites and had IDs* who would be more likely to be receptive to an inquiry. I tried to be concise and respectful of their time, so I had prepared a few questions to ask each person. I found out that in most instances the higher ranked applicants had a bit more experience (not so much hours, but overall breadth of training and development as a trainee) and another year of experience would round out my gaps. While none of the IDs told me where I ranked, for at least 2 of the 3 I was "highly ranked", but those sites usually don't have to go too far down on their list. I also found out that progress status for my research was a big factor (I had successfully defended), as many sites are weary of applicants who may not finish and successfully defend because it puts them in Post-Doc Limbo.

The other really helpful thing I did was put in time with a trusted mentor. I sat down with him and talked about what I thought would be a good training experience and then he provided feedback about what he thought *I* needed. He recognized some opportunities for further growth and development of my assessment skills within the context of a rehab setting (as opposed to a purely diagnostic role, which was my training background). I then went back and chose sites based on our discussion, and then we reviewed the list. This process allowed me to go into my 2nd match with a much better understanding of each site I chose and how I fit w. each. My interviews were front to back just better because I felt more confident in my abilities, I had filled in some gaps in my training, and I could more effectively articulate why I would be a good fit for each site.

*The psychodynamic double meaning….. :laugh:
 
Just to throw out there, I did not rank a site, because I knew I would be horribly miserable and quite honestly, I questioned the training (even though it was APA accredited). I did not have a ton of interviews, so I did feel like this was a huge chance. I would have rathered taken another year at my graduate institution and finish my dissertation than be somewhere miserable, broke, and poorly trained. By leaving that place off, I only ranked 5, and I still matched.
 
How much discussion have people had with their advisers about ranking? Has anyone had any disagreements with their advisers, or any advice on how to talk about a ranking decision they may not approve of?
 
Psychwomen said:
The site I am questioning is in fact an APA site, but not in the most racially diverse part of the country. I would normally be okay with this, as I've been the only person of color before. But, at this site, the interviewers came off cold and distant and slightly condescending. So, I need to really think about if I can be in a place for a year that has that kind of vibe. Also, I am wondering how easy it will be to form some type of social support in a pretty conservative city. T4C...seeing that you ranked 7-8 sites the first time around and didn't match is scary! I have 12 interviews and not ranking the aforementioned site would bring me down to 11 sites to rank. But, then I think of the horror stories of people with 10 or more interviews who still don't match...ugh!
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As a fellow person of color I understand and appreciate your experience; both being ok with being the only person of color at a site and the vibe you got from that one site. Listen to your inner wisdom. A similar thing happened to me during interviews. I spoke with a trusted mentor, also a person of color, and decided not to rank that site. Our thinking was internship is challenging enough, no need to subject myself to extra extra challenges. In the end it all worked out -- I matched in a very racially and ethnically diverse geographic area at a very diverse setting.
 
calimich said:
As a fellow person of color I understand and appreciate your experience; both being ok with being the only person of color at a site and the vibe you got from that one site. Listen to your inner wisdom. A similar thing happened to me during interviews. I spoke with a trusted mentor, also a person of color, and decided not to rank that site. Our thinking was internship is challenging enough, no need to subject myself to extra extra challenges. In the end it all worked out -- I matched in a very racially and ethnically diverse geographic area at a very diverse setting.
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"Cold, distant, and condescending" does seem like a bad sign, regardless of where you are in the country. I agree with Calimich that listening to your inner wisdom is important. We have a right side of the brain for a reason. Your odds of matching with 11 sites to list are very high, so don't risk finding yourself in an unfriendly part of anywhere for a year that will be stressful in the best of circumstances. Trust your gut. And if you need/want more information to confirm your gut, talk with some of the interns there now or in previous years to get a sense of the supervision and what interviewers are like beyond the interview. The quality of your supervisory support and interactions in the setting make all the difference.
 
sardonic said:
How much discussion have people had with their advisers about ranking? Has anyone had any disagreements with their advisers, or any advice on how to talk about a ranking decision they may not approve of?
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I just asked my advisor if we could set up a meeting to talk about ranking. He is very supportive and I briefly explained that I liked one of the VA sites much more than one of the prestigious academic medical centers. I plan on having a very detailed heart-to-heart with him and get his opinion. I think getting feedback from our advisors is a good thing, but clearly the decision is going to come down to us.

Are you feeling like your advisor might sway your decision away from ranking how you really want to rank? I feel like I would just make a personal argument about why my rankings are the way they are... and hope that he or she is able to respect that.
 
In the end, you have to make a personal decision. Your supervisor's feedback is important, but they can be biased in some ways.

I had a close friend at another school who's supervisor wanted her to go to a big research internship when she wanted to go to a VA internship. Her advisor told her that the VA would make her work 70 hours a week and didn't focus on didactics. I reassured her that in all of the VA's I have had experience with, it's 40-45 hour work weeks with a plethora of didactics. Just remember that sometimes people also want what's best for their own careers, and having students who always go to big name, prestigious places, regardless of if that place has the training you want/need, can be a recruiting tool.
 
I ended up switching my sites around to reflect my advisor's suggestions, which were to rank prestigious sites higher than sites that I had a good feeling about. I matched at one of the name brand sites, but would probably be happier at another lower ranked site. It is only one year, so I'm hoping moving forward it will positively impacte my career and this year will be worth it. However, if I had to do it over I'd rank them to reflect personal preferences because, as wiseneuro mentioned, everyone has their own agenda which doesn't always align with yours.
 
Just to add stats from the last APPIC Match Survey, since some of those stats are scary -- but from the height of the Match imbalance. (Yes, these have been posted a few times in the interview thread.)

Source: http://www.appic.org/Match/MatchStatistics/ApplicantSurvey2015Part2.aspx

APPIC Match Statistics said:
17.
Number of interview offers received:
1 to 2 interviews Match rate = 57% n = 343
3 to 4 interviews Match rate = 79% n = 459
5 to 6 interviews Match rate = 91% n = 502
7 to 8 interviews Match rate = 94% n = 463
9 to 10 interviews Match rate = 97% n = 318
11 or more interviews Match rate = 99% n = 522
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Plus of course, the stats from APPIC for this year:

Greg Keilin said:
As of December 31, 2016, the total numbers of applicants and internship sites registered to participate in the 2017 APPIC Match were:

ALL PARTICIPANTS (U.S. AND CANADA)
• 3,881 registered applicants
• 3,858 positions offered by 786 registered internship sites (749 of these registered sites are APPIC members)
- Accredited positions: 3,159
- Unaccredited positions: 699
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This year there will be MORE positions available than applicants. That makes me feel warm inside.


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Therapist4Chnge said:
That's the issue (still). The lack of acred. makes it a two-tier system for psychologists, which hurts a portion of the field bc they are locked out of certain jobs.
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Not just an issue of number of accredited spots, though. Imbalance wouldn't be as bad without the diploma mills. I'm fine with a two-tier system if it locks those degrees out of those jobs.
 
AcronymAllergy said:
I believe sites that rank you will ultimately see where you've matched (if you don't match with them).
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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how sites/TDs use this information (assuming that they do at all...)?
 
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