How can I increase my salary?

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Has anyone here successfully increased their salary at his/her respective residency program? I am going to a program in a city which has seen an incredible increase in housing over the past few years. This is not a city like SF, NY or Boston. I am legitimately concerned about paying for everything on a salary that is not comparable to cost of living.
Does anyone know how to go about trying to do something like this?
Thanks in advance.
 
dr. maybe said:
Has anyone here successfully increased their salary at his/her respective residency program? I am going to a program in a city which has seen an incredible increase in housing over the past few years. This is not a city like SF, NY or Boston. I am legitimately concerned about paying for everything on a salary that is not comparable to cost of living.
Does anyone know how to go about trying to do something like this?
Thanks in advance.
This might be a little difficult to do, outside of moonlighting. I'm trying to figure out if your post is tongue-in-cheek or not.
 
Bank robbery. I took the idea from Danny Ocean and I've nearly quintupled my salary!
 
Residency stipends are non-negotiable, unless you consider "take it or leave it" a negotiation.
 
Didn't the residents at U of Michigan "collectively bargain" for higher saleries. I heard they're earning upwards of $70,000 a result of their lil' ol' quasi union. 👍
 
Orange Julius said:
Didn't the residents at U of Michigan "collectively bargain" for higher saleries. I heard they're earning upwards of $70,000 a result of their lil' ol' quasi union. 👍

They did unionize and they do have outstanding salary and benefits. If I remember correctly, salaries were in the $47K-$55K/year range.
 
DrRobert said:
They did unionize and they do have outstanding salary and benefits. If I remember correctly, salaries were in the $47K-$55K/year range.

I interviewed there this year and while there salary was good, it wasnt that impressive, they must have been getting raped. I will try to find my packet, brb.....the salary was 41.5-58 for years HO-1 to HO8. Not too bad but also not exceedingly impressive, after all that last one is in the 8th year.
 
Plastikos said:
I interviewed there this year and while there salary was good, it wasnt that impressive, they must have been getting raped. I will try to find my packet, brb.....the salary was 41.5-58 for years HO-1 to HO8. Not too bad but also not exceedingly impressive, after all that last one is in the 8th year.

Their base salary is about the same as anywhere else, but they receive a lump sum bonus every November for "investing". I believe the bonus is 7% of your salary (3 to 4 grand). An intern starting this year will make around 46,000 and a HOVIII will make around 64,000.

Except for the programs in high cost cities, I found Michigan to offer better pay than anywhere else (plus they get paid extra for working holdiays and they get 4 weeks of vacation).
 
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write half ass board review books with catchy names like "Obliterate step 2" or "Mnemonicize step 1" and charge $60 a pop
 
CameronFrye said:
Their base salary is about the same as anywhere else, but they receive a lump sum bonus every November for "investing". I believe the bonus is 7% of your salary (3 to 4 grand). An intern starting this year will make around 46,000 and a HOVIII will make around 64,000.

Except for the programs in high cost cities, I found Michigan to offer better pay than anywhere else (plus they get paid extra for working holdiays and they get 4 weeks of vacation).

Thats right, i forgot about the christmas bonus. I made a spreadsheet (lame i know) with cost of living, median home price, etc...and both mich/mich st came out very high. Nothing though could touch Texas just b/c of the insanely low house/rental prices, at least where i interviewed and matched.

Yale also started you off at 46.5K and went to 60K with a 4-5K bonus for being admin. resident in your last year, though im unsure of COL in general in that area.
 
Gauss said:
write half ass board review books with catchy names like "Obliterate step 2" or "Mnemonicize step 1" and charge $60 a pop

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That is the best way to make money for years and years. Just update with a few punctuation changes (a comma here, a comma there).

I have not heard of residents making differing amts of money in the same PG year.
 
After taking the step III, I think that you can moonlight in at least in a ER fast track. You probably have to clear this with you program director b/c your total hours worked in residency and when moonlighting shouldn’t exceed 80 hrs/wk. I don’t see how programs can strictly enforce this, though.
 
chauffeur said:
After taking the step III, I think that you can moonlight in at least in a ER fast track. You probably have to clear this with you program director b/c your total hours worked in residency and when moonlighting shouldn’t exceed 80 hrs/wk. I don’t see how programs can strictly enforce this, though.
Could this be done by any specialty?
 
Sohalia said:
Could this be done by any specialty?


No, some specialties (esp. surgery) don't like their residents moonlighting. However MY specialty (psych) is all about moonlighting!
 
DrRobert said:
They did unionize and they do have outstanding salary and benefits. If I remember correctly, salaries were in the $47K-$55K/year range.

They are pretty much the equivalent of other large institutions. We do get some benefits that are probably better than other programs, but have other areas where we probably pay more (like parking) than other programs. My salary as HO-II is ~43k, which does not include an additional 7% of total salary as a yearly bonus/investment opportunity which also shows up in the paycheck. My program also gives me a laptop computer and approximately $1000-1200 per year in meal allowances.

One thing in the michigan contract is that you get $100 if you work on your birthday or a holiday.
 
A short skirt and a dark street corner can significantly increase your income...
 
My program also gives me a laptop computer and approximately $1000-1200 per year in meal allowances.

I'm headed to the U of M this July. Does every HO get a laptop or was this specific to your program? I was just about to purchase one from buy.com today.

thanks.
 
chauffeur said:
I'm headed to the U of M this July. Does every HO get a laptop or was this specific to your program? I was just about to purchase one from buy.com today.

thanks.

I dunno, actually. I think it's just the pathology program. I would imagine they would have told you about it, but I would check with your PD.
 
NinerNiner999 said:
A short skirt and a dark street corner can significantly increase your income...

Why moonlight when you can red light?
 
I am actually being serious. I was hoping for some actual ways to go to a governing body and get the salary changed to better account for the large increase in housing over the past 2-3 years.
I do appreciate all the colorful commentary, though.
 
In all honesty, Medicare strictly controls the budgetary dispersements to each program (I think it is something around $200k per resident or something like that). A large percentage of the goverment stipend per resident is used to cover insurance, fees, training costs, and to supplement program budget (which is why many PD's get concerned when they don't fill - it undercuts their operating budget among other things). The resident salary is usually fixed hopsital-wide for these reasons, and it is actually dependent on the federal contribution towards a program.

Of note, I was close to overqualifiying for economic hardship on my student loans this year and asked to be paid $700 less to make the income qualification. Due to the budgeting and hospital policy described above, they would not pay me less!

To answer your question, yes and no. The federal government does not make regional allowances based on cost of living for residents, which means your salary will most likely NOT be negotiable (and your financial hardship requirements may be difficult if your program offers a higher base salary). There are, however, certain progams based in private hospitals that may be willing to extend housing subsidization in the form of pre-tax contributions, loans, or grants. It is my understanding that these such arrangements are made outside of your base resident salary and usually involve a third party. I hope this helps...
 
find a hospital and ask for a stipend. Plenty of work in South Dakota.
 
Orange Julius said:
Didn't the residents at U of Michigan "collectively bargain" for higher saleries. I heard they're earning upwards of $70,000 a result of their lil' ol' quasi union. 👍

You can earn $70K at UMich....if you are a PGYVIII :laugh:

http://www.med.umich.edu/medschool/hoa/contract.htm

Remember to add in the corresponding 'lump sum' payment, supposedly for your Roth contribution, to get total compensation for the year.

And yes, we get a raise in both July when you go up a year, as well as September.
 
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