How difficult is it for Pakistani Medical School Graduates that are US citizens to get residencies ?

[bobdole112]

Hi all I am just curious... I read in a booklet that only internal medicine was the specialty where US Pakistani medical school grads get admission into... I read in 2014 like 17/45 students that were Pakistani IMG but US citizens gained admission.. Thats less than 50%... I mean honestly how difficult is it to gain residency in the United States?

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[chizledfrmstone]

Probably depends on the school.

I bet a majority of students who got those residencies were from Aga Khan or King Edward.

 

[bobdole112]

Probably depends on the school.

I bet a majority of students who got those residencies were from Aga Khan or King Edward.

What about Islamabad medical and dental college?

 

[Shjanzey]

Tell me your Step 1 score and I'll tell you your chances

 

[bobdole112]

Tell me your Step 1 score and I'll tell you your chances

Well I am not an IMG.. I KNow people that are trying to get residencies after being a Pakistani US IMG.. Just curious on what the chances are... Is it true its like 30%?

 

[Shjanzey]

Well I am not an IMG.. I KNow people that are trying to get residencies after being a Pakistani US IMG.. Just curious on what the chances are... Is it true its like 30%?

Honestly, they have the same chance as any other IMG. The biggest predictor is their Step 1 score. There is one caveat, they should do better than American graduates because the American graduates get priority. There is a reason that Americans are discouraged from studying in the Caribbean, because they definitely have a disadvantage when it comes to matching residency.

I think it is a stupid idea to put yourself at a disadvantage just to save a few dollars, but hey people do it every day. If I were on an interview board I would start with their motivation to go abroad and study medicine when they were already a US citizen. That is a big red flag to me, and very different from someone who immigrated to the US after they completed their medical training. Those are two distinct cases.

 

[xffan624]

Hi all I am just curious... I read in a booklet that only internal medicine was the specialty where US Pakistani medical school grads get admission into... I read in 2014 like 17/45 students that were Pakistani IMG but US citizens gained admission.. Thats less than 50%... I mean honestly how difficult is it to gain residency in the United States?

The international medical graduates forums are probably a better resource for your questions than a forum devoted to pre-medical non-traditional students.

 

[Law2Doc]

Odds are incredibly poor. Probably less than 30%. Don't consider this route unless every other avenue is closed. If you want to train in the US your first, second, third, fourth and tenth best approach will be to do med school here. Odds tend to be bad even for top scorers from the Caribbean, and those are US kids with connections and local rotations, coming from places PDs have at least some familiarity with.

 

[Dr.Tao]

As a former Scientist, I think it should be impossible. Luckily the medical profession hasn't sold out nearly as much as Academia has.

Yet.

 

[Law2Doc]

Odds are incredibly poor. Probably less than 30%. Don't consider this route unless every other avenue is closed. If you want to train in the US your first, second, third, fourth and tenth best approach will be to do med school here. Odds tend to be bad even for top scorers from the Caribbean, and those are US kids with connections and local rotations, coming from places PDs have at least some familiarity with.

Just to clarify, (since based on your PM you aren't understanding what i said so others might not either)match statistics for non US med school are typically 40-50%. Meaning less than half will have a Shot at matching, assuming they are stellar candidates. And those figures are even propped up by schools that do their rotations and have better connections and get LORs etc here in the states, the big three Caribbean school, Sackler, as well as a few applicants from established schools in Britain and Germany. You take away those people, and the match percentage plummets to below the 20-30% range. Meaning you can be the best guy with the top scores and you'll barely have a 1 in 5 shot at matching because you are coming from an unknown school/system. Don't invest four years and many thousands of dollars on what probably is no more than a 20% chance, if that, assuming you ace everything. If you want to practice in the US, you need to school in the US. There are no short cuts. Only bad dead end detours.

 

[MS7]

Hi guys. Need a little help here. I'm a medical student currently studying in Pakistan and I want to do my residency (preferably in Psychiatry) somewhere abroad. Right now my preferences are anywhere in the UK, New Zealand, Australia. I'm considering USA too but I've heard it's too competitive over there. I don't know much about how to apply, when to apply,what exams to give, what the requirements are and how are the job prospects for the above-mentioned countries The thing is that I don't have much information on how to go about this, so a little help would be much appreciated. 🙂

 

[Law2Doc]

Hi guys. Need a little help here. I'm a medical student currently studying in Pakistan and I want to do my residency (preferably in Psychiatry) somewhere abroad. Right now my preferences are anywhere in the UK, New Zealand, Australia. I'm considering USA too but I've heard it's too competitive over there. I don't know much about how to apply, when to apply,what exams to give, what the requirements are and how are the job prospects for the above-mentioned countries The thing is that I don't have much information on how to go about this, so a little help would be much appreciated. 🙂

This forum is 99% US people and people vying for US schools/residencies. There are other (international) forums on SDN that you might have a better chance getting info on non US targets.

 

[wholeheartedly]

Moving fro Nontrad to international to help with more informed responses.

 

[gyngyn]

Hi guys. Need a little help here. I'm a medical student currently studying in Pakistan and I want to do my residency (preferably in Psychiatry) somewhere abroad. Right now my preferences are anywhere in the UK, New Zealand, Australia. I'm considering USA too but I've heard it's too competitive over there. I don't know much about how to apply, when to apply,what exams to give, what the requirements are and how are the job prospects for the above-mentioned countries The thing is that I don't have much information on how to go about this, so a little help would be much appreciated. 🙂

37% of Non-US IMG's from Pakistan matched into a preferred specialty in the US.
Residency training is required to practice here. You can find info on applying at the ECFMG website.