How do I really answer this question?

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"Is there anything else you'd like the committee to know?"

Is there a right answer? Do I talk about diversity or how much I want to attend their school, or is it for D/F/W grades? What if I have a W in a class that's not required and it didn't affect my GPA?

Thanks y'all.
 
But anything outside of that might be looked down upon?
This prompt seems to elicit three basic types of response:
-a chance to recycle an answer that the applicant is particularly proud of from another secondary.
-a mea culpa about something no one realized or cared about (the B- in organic).
-a poem or link to a UTube video.
 
This prompt seems to elicit three basic types of response:
-a chance to recycle an answer that the applicant is particularly proud of from another secondary.
-a mea culpa about something no one realized or cared about (the B- in organic).
-a poem or link to a UTube video.

How are each of these types of responses received?
 

Is there really nothing you can compelling you can add to your app if you respond to this section? Like taking the opportunity to talk about why you're really interested in the school, talking about something you didn't get to include in your W/A, or just generally add more detail to something that you think would benefit from more explanation? (genuine question)
 
Is there really nothing you can compelling you can add to your app if you respond to this section? Like taking the opportunity to talk about why you're really interested in the school, talking about something you didn't get to include in your W/A, or just generally add more detail to something that you think would benefit from more explanation? (genuine question)

I personally approach these with asking if it’d actually increase *their* interest in *me* in any way. Talking about your interest wouldn’t - you’re applying, they know you’re interested. Other activities would depend on what they are - if you were low in an area but can update with new hours from the cycle, that’s probably more useful than describing an additional hobby or something.

There are three possibilities: it helps your app, it hurts your app, or it has no effect. If it’s unlikely to help, better not to risk it, imo.
 
I personally approach these with asking if it’d actually increase *their* interest in *me* in any way. Talking about your interest wouldn’t - you’re applying, they know you’re interested.

But some schools have very specific missions, and if you are a strong fit for them - imho - then it would be in your best interest to more fully describe why, since your primary really isn't for that

If the "why us?" question had no value, then far fewer schools would ask (although I realize a big % of the reason is to check whether people did any research before applying)
 
"Is there anything else you'd like the committee to know?"
Is there a right answer? Do I talk about diversity or how much I want to attend their school, or is it for D/F/W grades? What if I have a W in a class that's not required and it didn't affect my GPA?
There isn't an answer that is right for every applicant; however, there are certainly many, many wrong answers. Only include things that you feel the adcoms need to know in order to fairly assess your application. Theoretically, anything that is that important really should have been included somewhere in the primary application (or in other parts of the secondary, which the schools would have asked for if they really cared about it). The decision to include something for an optional essay should meet a much higher bar than for required essays.

I would not talk about your W. No one will care. Writing about this would only show neuroticism.

Is there really nothing you can compelling you can add to your app if you respond to this section? Like taking the opportunity to talk about why you're really interested in the school, talking about something you didn't get to include in your W/A, or just generally add more detail to something that you think would benefit from more explanation? (genuine question)
There are definitely some things that are compelling enough to be included, but these usually make up the minority of responses. For example, it would be more than appropriate to write about truly extenuating circumstances such as severe personal or family illness(es) that resulted in a semester of W's, a leave of absence, or a year of objectively bad grades (and not just bad by SDN standards, e.g <3.8 ...). Not feeling well during finals week or having a tough grader do not count.

I personally don't find much purpose to the "why us" answers. We already know that an applicant is interested by virtue of their shelling out a hundred bucks to apply. It may be useful for schools that are often viewed as "safeties" in order to screen out those with no real intention of matriculating there. There have been some responses that talked about personal reasons for why they needed to stay in the area, but these reasons need to be compelling and unique to the school, and even then, do not boost an otherwise non-competitive application. In other words, those who got interviewed would have been offered an interview regardless of that information.

For things that couldn't be included in the W/A section, if they were from restrictions due to the character limit or 15 activity limit, I would argue that whatever activity was bumped probably wasn't that essential (or rather, was the 16th most important thing). Just my thoughts
 
But some schools have very specific missions, and if you are a strong fit for them - imho - then it would be in your best interest to more fully describe why, since your primary really isn't for that

If the "why us?" question had no value, then far fewer schools would ask (although I realize a big % of the reason is to check whether people did any research before applying)

I’d think that if you fit a specific mission, it should be evident in your primary- i.e., if you’re passionate with working with the underserved, you should already have the activities/etc. to back it up.

Also note that we’re not talking about schools who *want* to hear about your interests, but “anything else” questions. If a school asks, then obviously elaborate.

I applied to a school with a secondary that was literally just “anything else?”, left it blank, and graduated from there a month ago. It’s okay to leave it blank. More is not always better.
 
I’d think that if you fit a specific mission, it should be evident in your primary- i.e., if you’re passionate with working with the underserved, you should already have the activities/etc. to back it up.

Also note that we’re not talking about schools who *want* to hear about your interests, but “anything else” questions. If a school asks, then obviously elaborate.

I applied to a school with a secondary that was literally just “anything else?”, left it blank, and graduated from there a month ago. It’s okay to leave it blank. More is not always better.

I guess I'm just afraid of looking like I put 0 effort into my secondary if all there is is an "anything else" and I leave it blank :shrug:
 
I guess I'm just afraid of looking like I put 0 effort into my secondary if all there is is an "anything else" and I leave it blank :shrug:

Multiple adcoms here are saying that’s not how it comes across, so you’re probably overthinking it. If your primary application is strong, I highly doubt a school would choose not to interview you just because you had nothing else to add.
 
Multiple adcoms here are saying that’s not how it comes across, so you’re probably overthinking it. If your primary application is strong, I highly doubt a school would choose not to interview you just because you had nothing else to add.

Fair enough!
 
I guess I'm just afraid of looking like I put 0 effort into my secondary if all there is is an "anything else" and I leave it blank :shrug:
JUst for a reference point...That school that differentiating is referring to is a top 5 school...or a top 3 school depending on the rankings source. So NO!...you will not look like you put in zero effort if you leave it blank. Although if you answer it with some random BS trying to fill up space, it could hurt your app.
 
JUst for a reference point...That school that differentiating is referring to is a top 5 school...or a top 3 school depending on the rankings source. So NO!...you will not look like you put in zero effort if you leave it blank. Although if you answer it with some random BS trying to fill up space, it could hurt your app.

Got it! Appreciate all of the input from this thread that I've gotten so far
 
When I have 4-6 applications to review before I interview you tomorrow morning, what more do you want me to know? If there is nothing compelling to tell me, I appreciate you for not wasting my time with some drivel about why you are a good fit with my school or how much you admire your mother's Uncle Sydney who graduated from our medical school in 1954.
 
I think it also depends on the prompt. Some "anything else?" prompts specifically say something like "Some candidates use this space to talk about economic challenges, sexual orientation, gender identity, or identifying with a particular culture, etc." If any of the things they mention apply to you it could be to your advantage to answer the prompt.
 
I think it also depends on the prompt. Some "anything else?" prompts specifically say something like "Some candidates use this space to talk about economic challenges, sexual orientation, gender identity, or identifying with a particular culture, etc." If any of the things they mention apply to you it could be to your advantage to answer the prompt.

Notably, WashU's prompts on this topic are technically optional, but are not necessarily optional. If the prompt is literally "anything else" then I'd seriously consider whether to answer it or not. If the prompt is "anything else, and if you would like to talk about these..." then perhaps try to answer it if it's relevant to you.
 
I wish I better knew the perspective of adcoms before applying 😀

Selfish writing sucks as people are tasked to read it.
 
I answered it specifically to the prompt. There were definitely certain prompts where they specifically mentioned SES/race/sexuality, and I felt it would be bad taste to insert a why me essay. Others were much more open ended, "additional comments on how you will contribute", "additional comments not captured by your AMCAS". I'd guess that not not answering it or putting something relevant would just be neutral, whereas something positive could be impactful. Definitely dont put anything if you really can't relate to specific programs/research/mission in a why school, just to say something. If I ever included anything it was my diversity essay, which adds an interesting aspect of me not shown on amcas, or a very specific "why xSOM" that I could relate to my own interests and wasn't just like "i love nyc, it's been my dream, etc"
 
What i did something in high school that received local media attention like organizing a public rally for education? I collected nearly 700 petitions, spoke to congress members and etc
It was certainly not something I could add in my 15 activities as it was from high school.
 
Heard and read way too often. But when HMS calls, everything can suddenly be uprooted to Boston no problemo. :laugh:

Haha yes, suddenly everyone’s dream city becomes Boston. Or Baltimore’s inner city. Or wherever haha
 
What i did something in high school that received local media attention like organizing a public rally for education? I collected nearly 700 petitions, spoke to congress members and etc
It was certainly not something I could add in my 15 activities as it was from high school.

I'd say this isn't really worth it unless you continued this activity into college. It could be something interesting to bring up in interviews, but it doesn't have a place in this question/answer on a secondary.


Haha yes, suddenly everyone’s dream city becomes Boston. Or Baltimore’s inner city. Or wherever haha

My dream city actually is Baltimore for various reasons 🙁 People always give me the side-eye when I say that, though (understandably).
 
What i did something in high school that received local media attention like organizing a public rally for education? I collected nearly 700 petitions, spoke to congress members and etc
It was certainly not something I could add in my 15 activities as it was from high school.

I echo what Seihai said. If it wasn’t important enough to be in your 15 activities, it’s not going to be the difference between getting an interview or not.
 
Would it be worthwhile of a ‘misstep’ to put some clarification not fully evident in my primary?

Like “My transcripts do not accurately reflect my first 40 semester hours. It was 40 credits in 5.5 months in a military setting that, despite a 3.4 GPA, I graduated 3rd out of 65. Additionally, my first 20 credits after returning to school were while I had a newborn and I withdrew from classes for another 18 months after this.”
It is there to let you take the misstep, not explain one.
 
I meant it is there to let you take the misstep.
Gooootcha. So, things like that (not complaining about a single grade but overall weird trend things not otherwise evident) shouldn’t be there either?
 
Gooootcha. So, things like that (not complaining about a single grade but overall weird trend things not otherwise evident) shouldn’t be there either?

"Don't bring attention to things that aren't red flags that would already tank your application" is the rule of thumb I've seen.
 
Gooootcha. So, things like that (not complaining about a single grade but overall weird trend things not otherwise evident) shouldn’t be there either?
I would estimate that <5% of those who answer an optional prompt improve their odds of an interview.
 
That wouldn’t is what I am guessing you meant

I'll admit, my obsession with double negatives is confusing, so I added a few brackets.

"Don't bring attention to things [that aren't (red flags that would already tank your application)]".

That is, if it's not a red flag that would destroy you, then don't talk about it.
 
I'll admit, my obsession with double negatives is confusing, so I added a few brackets.

"Don't bring attention to things [that aren't (red flags that would already tank your application)]".

That is, if it's not a red flag that would destroy you, then don't talk about it.
Yah, gotcha. This makes sense. Cool, leaving optional essays blank unless they specifically are those weird optional ones like “Is there anything else? Some applicants use this to talk about.....” where they strongly imply they want you to fill in a diversity or adversity essay.
 
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