how do you boost your application after a prior residency

[turquoiseblue]

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Having had done residency in the past, would it boost my application to do more clinical rotations after that and get LOR's? what things can I do to boost my application, or is there nothing to boost it? I have tried to first author 3 research papers at a prestigious hospital, but it never got me interviews, except one.

I was thinking of doing courses in Advanced Colleges of America. they advertise as if PD's will take their graduates. Would it work for my case? Here is the program. I was thinking to do the Residency track: http://www.advancedcolleges.us/?page_id=313

What do PD's think of this?

Or should I just save my money?

 

[JelloBrain]

I think what you want to do seems like a scam! Why/how would any physician's CV be bolstered for residency by doing a Medical Assistantship? I think the "residency track" is a big misnomer. Don't fall for such schemes.

I seriously think you should go back to the scientist/s with whom you worked to first author 3 research papers, work with them, and through them establish connections to physicians who might offer you interviews during future cycles. That way you will have some income.

Alternately, as you have now passed Step 3, look for work in Urgent Care (I am not exactly sure about this, but worth a shot) and build up from there.

Good Luck.

 

[benjee]

I believe what he meant was partial residency training not "medical assistanceship " during which he was asked to resign or was terminated ro something like that.

 

[gutonc]

I believe what he meant was partial residency training not "medical assistanceship " during which he was asked to resign or was terminated ro something like that.

Read the link provided, then come back and talk about it. It's a scam plain and simple.

 

[benjee]

Read the link provided, then come back and talk about it. It's a scam plain and simple.

Oops, yeah your are right, didn't check that prior.

 

[DrMom]

Alternately, as you have now passed Step 3, look for work in Urgent Care (I am not exactly sure about this, but worth a shot) and build up from there.

Good Luck.

TB has not completed an internship and cannot be licensed in any state, so the UC gig isn't an option.

 

[JelloBrain]

TB has not completed an internship and cannot be licensed in any state, so the UC gig isn't an option.

I thought s/he finished 10 months in one residency and some other time in another residency, making it more than 12 months duration, so wouldn't that count as internship, at least enough to be licensed in a state?

I am not very knowledgeable about UC, have just heard that it's an option for some people. Sorry if the advice was not correct.

However the link posted is definitely a scam.

 

[DrMom]

I don't know of any state that combines time spent in multiple uncompleted programs and considers it a completed 1st year of training. I suppose it could be a question to be posed to the separate state licensure boards, but I doubt any of them mean anything other than completion of intern year when they say that at least 1 year of training is required for licensure.

And to answer TB's question about that program, I agree with the others. Save your money.

 

[CollegeOfHealth]

Having had done residency in the past, would it boost my application to do more clinical rotations after that and get LOR's? what things can I do to boost my application, or is there nothing to boost it? I have tried to first author 3 research papers at a prestigious hospital, but it never got me interviews, except one.

I was thinking of doing courses in Advanced Colleges of America. they advertise as if PD's will take their graduates. Would it work for my case? Here is the program. I was thinking to do the Residency track: http://www.advancedcolleges.us/?page_id=313

What do PD's think of this?

Or should I just save my money?

Dear turquoiseblue,


To figure out how to boost your application, the first step would be to identify the potential weaknesses in your application. If you have done extensive research, and it has not gotten you interviews, then it is safe to assume that there are more important aspects aside from research that you will need to work on.


I would like to suggest that you refer to the following research article from Medscape: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/588973. A national directors survey was conducted in order to assess the relative importance of criteria used for residency selection across 21 multiple specialties. Of the most important factors identified, grades in clerkships and grades in electives in specialties were ranked as #1 and #3 respectively. Research was found to be the least important factor.


In regards to deciding whether the Residency track would be beneficial for you, it would be in your best interest to contact the students currently enrolled in that particular program. Current students are the best resource for gaining good insight into any program, whether it is positive or negative.

Enrollment Specialist
Advanced Colleges of America

 

[turquoiseblue]

thanks for all the helpful replies. rather than go into that particular program, would doing a few externships and getting LOR's help?

I haven't really tried that avenue and just relied on my past residency exprience so far, but I'm realizing that past residency doesn't seem like a postive thing, even if I got credits and some positive talk about me from the PD, and probably can't replace externship experience.

Does having a license boost your chances in residency?

Also, I am working as a GP under a supervising doctor. Does that look good or should I do externships instead?

 

[Buzz Me]

DO NOT pay any money to that website.

Would you be able to get an "externship" here in the US that's not merely a shadowing experience? One that would actually provide liability coverage? Highly unlikely, IMHO.

How are you working as a GP?

 

[CollegeOfHealth]

DO NOT pay any money to that website.

Would you be able to get an "externship" here in the US that's not merely a shadowing experience? One that would actually provide liability coverage? Highly unlikely, IMHO.

How are you working as a GP?

A true "externship" is considered to be a practical learning opportunity that is offered through an educational institution to allow students to gain hands-on experience in their particular field of study.

Unfortunately, this term has been extremely misused, which is most likely the reason that many confuse observerships/shadowing with externships and/or hands-on clinical experiences.

Indeed, individuals that participate in externships and/or hands-on clinical experiences need to be covered by medical liability insurance. Medical liability insurance is very difficult to obtain and may be very costly for an individual, but there are institutions out there with the capabilities to acquire the appropriate coverage.

Lastly, the website that turquoiseblue had referred to belongs to Advanced Colleges of America, which is a college governed by the Department of Consumer Affairs, founded and supervised by physicians with the vision of aiding in the U.S. shortage of qualified healthcare professionals. It is a means for individuals to find relevant education for their respective field of study, and become prepared for the next steps in education and career placement.

Enrollment Specialist
Advanced Colleges of America

 

[physicsnerd42]

A true "externship" is considered to be a practical learning opportunity that is offered through an educational institution to allow students to gain hands-on experience in their particular field of study.

Unfortunately, this term has been extremely misused, which is most likely the reason that many confuse observerships/shadowing with externships and/or hands-on clinical experiences.

Indeed, individuals that participate in externships and/or hands-on clinical experiences need to be covered by medical liability insurance. Medical liability insurance is very difficult to obtain and may be very costly for an individual, but there are institutions out there with the capabilities to acquire the appropriate coverage.

Lastly, the website that turquoiseblue had referred to belongs to Advanced Colleges of America, which is a college governed by the Department of Consumer Affairs, founded and supervised by physicians with the vision of aiding in the U.S. shortage of qualified healthcare professionals. It is a means for individuals to find relevant education for their respective field of study, and become prepared for the next steps in education and career placement.

Enrollment Specialist
Advanced Colleges of America

You should probably change your status from "MD/PhD student" to "marketing specialist".

From The Simpsons (halfway down http://simpsonsite.blogspot.com/)

Scientist 1: "That appetite surpressent is amazing!"
Scientist 2: "Homer, you really have no desire to eat that food?"
Homer: "Food?"

Homer: "I'm BLIND!"

Scientist 1: "Who's gonna buy a pill that makes you blind?"
Scientist 2: "We'll let marketing worry about that!"

 

[JelloBrain]

You should probably change your status from "MD/PhD student" to "marketing specialist".

So very true. What CollegeofHealth is saying is just a load of PR b***s***!

A true "externship" is considered to be a practical learning opportunity that is offered through an educational institution to allow students to gain hands-on experience in their particular field of study.

Unfortunately, this term has been extremely misused, which is most likely the reason that many confuse observerships/shadowing with externships and/or hands-on clinical experiences.

Indeed, individuals that participate in externships and/or hands-on clinical experiences need to be covered by medical liability insurance. Medical liability insurance is very difficult to obtain and may be very costly for an individual, but there are institutions out there with the capabilities to acquire the appropriate coverage.

Lastly, the website that turquoiseblue had referred to belongs to Advanced Colleges of America, which is a college governed by the Department of Consumer Affairs, founded and supervised by physicians with the vision of aiding in the U.S. shortage of qualified healthcare professionals. It is a means for individuals to find relevant education for their respective field of study, and become prepared for the next steps in education and career placement.

Enrollment Specialist
Advanced Colleges of America

This is all a load of PR c***. No one is confusing externships with observerships. How will a shortage of qualified healthcare professionals get fulfilled by making physicians go through a medical assistantship?

TB-Americlerkships, Graduate Medical Consultants Group, Advanced Colleges of America, all three are run by the same person-Pedram Mizani-all sound like a scam. You should try to find someone who has actually used their "help" and achieved success (not someone they refer you to, someone you have to hunt on your own) before you spend money down the drain. Take care and good luck.

 

[CheesyCake]

So very true. What CollegeofHealth is saying is just a load of PR b***s***!



This is all a load of PR c***. No one is confusing externships with observerships. How will a shortage of qualified healthcare professionals get fulfilled by making physicians go through a medical assistantship?

TB-Americlerkships, Graduate Medical Consultants Group, Advanced Colleges of America, all three are run by the same person-Pedram Mizani-all sound like a scam. You should try to find someone who has actually used their "help" and achieved success (not someone they refer you to, someone you have to hunt on your own) before you spend money down the drain. Take care and good luck.

PR b***s***? That's extremely out of context considering CollegeOfHealth's posted definition of an externship relates to Buzz Me's remark about finding "an 'externship' here in the US that's not merely a shadowing experience". If it is a shadowing experience, then it should not be labeled as an externship. Consequently, why would anyone need to spend money to shadow? The clarification of the term "externship" affirms the misuse of that term.

In this instance, I would have to disagree with JelloBrain that "No one is confusing externships with observerships" because the statement made by Buzz Me implies otherwise. Secondly, no where on that website indicates that physicians will be doing "medical assistanceships." Residency track's "IDEAL CANDIDATE - International Medical Graduates (IMG) who want to secure U.S. medical residency interviews, and practice medicine in the United States." So their applicants are people looking to get into residency in the U.S., not current physicians.

It is obvious that a lot of these negative comments are based on assumptions. The program sounds very intelligent for someone who needs extra assistance for getting into residency. It would be smart to do a little bit of research before making snide comments and making yourself look like an a**.

As for turqoiseblue, are you currently licensed to practice medicine as a GP? If so, what reason do you have for looking into a program to help you into residency?

 

[Winged Scapula]

PR b***s***? That's extremely out of context considering CollegeOfHealth's posted definition of an externship relates to Buzz Me's remark about finding "an 'externship' here in the US that's not merely a shadowing experience". If it is a shadowing experience, then it should not be labeled as an externship. Consequently, why would anyone need to spend money to shadow? The clarification of the term "externship" affirms the misuse of that term.

In this instance, I would have to disagree with JelloBrain that "No one is confusing externships with observerships" because the statement made by Buzz Me implies otherwise. Secondly, no where on that website indicates that physicians will be doing "medical assistanceships." Residency track's "IDEAL CANDIDATE - International Medical Graduates (IMG) who want to secure U.S. medical residency interviews, and practice medicine in the United States." So their applicants are people looking to get into residency in the U.S., not current physicians.

It is obvious that a lot of these negative comments are based on assumptions. The program sounds very intelligent for someone who needs extra assistance for getting into residency. It would be smart to do a little bit of research before making snide comments and making yourself look like an a**.

As for turqoiseblue, are you currently licensed to practice medicine as a GP? If so, what reason do you have for looking into a program to help you into residency?

Sock-puppeting is a violation of the SDN Terms of Service that you signed when you registered (all of) your accounts.

SDN staff allowed your original account to stand because it appeared that you registered not necessarily to promote your product/company, but rather to respond to a query posted by a regular user about it. However, registering other accounts and pretending to be an "innocent bystander" to shill for the company is not allowed and hence, all of your accounts will be closed.

 

[physicsnerd42]

Sock-puppeting is a violation of the SDN Terms of Service that you signed when you registered (all of) your accounts.

SDN staff allowed your original account to stand because it appeared that you registered not necessarily to promote your product/company, but rather to respond to a query posted by a regular user about it. However, registering other accounts and pretending to be an "innocent bystander" to shill for the company is not allowed and hence, all of your accounts will be closed.

Game. Set. Match.

TB, I honestly sympathize with your situation and I understand why you are desperate to do anything that will allow you to get back into residency. In your situation, I would feel the same. I hope, however, that this little drama that has just played out has demonstrated why the ACA program is probably little more than a scheme to separate you from your money.

 

[Buzz Me]

Sock-puppeting is a violation of the SDN Terms of Service that you signed when you registered (all of) your accounts.

SDN staff allowed your original account to stand because it appeared that you registered not necessarily to promote your product/company, but rather to respond to a query posted by a regular user about it. However, registering other accounts and pretending to be an "innocent bystander" to shill for the company is not allowed and hence, all of your accounts will be closed.

Sigh...another shill bites the dust.