How do you study Goljan's RR?

[Zuhal]

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Hi guys,
So I know you've probably seen this question asked multiple times and I have tried to look up some answers before starting this thread, but came up with nothing useful. I started reading RR about 3 weeks ago. I would do the histo, anatomy, embryo, physio, pharm for a particular system and then use Goljan's RR for the pathology part. Problem is I am not retaining what I'm learning at all.My score in pathology went down from 65% before starting to study at all (but of course with second year's path knowledge) to 59%! Something is seriously wrong. The material is presented in a very overwhelming way and I cannot afford to spend more than two days on a pathology topic! I like that he goes into extensive details for certain diseases, but sometimes I feel like a lot of it is irrelevant for step I. Should I be feeling this way? lol Somehow, I feel like I shouldn't be feeling this way.
Bottom line, I'd like to know how you guys study the book. I know some of you are satisfied with his audios, I am not. I need to do more than just listen. Also, is there another source I can use with Goljan to reinforce my understanding/retention?

Any piece of advise will be helpful

 

[piviti]

Maybe you should try using Pathoma instead. I've been using it and I love it.

 

[da Vincis World]

Pathoma is excellent.

 

[Jorje286]

What I did is type notes while reading and then reading and memorizing the notes. It's hard, grueling and needs time but I tell you it's 100% worth it. I find that information stick in my head much better when I type it out. I've been scoring 80% in USMLE World on first try in pathology pretty much because of Goljan, and I haven't touched path in 1.5 weeks. And the ones I've missed I have recognized that I read in Goljan.

RR Path is an absolutely brilliant book. It organizes the information in your head in a logical way.

 

[Zuhal]

Pathoma is excellent.

What about the stuff that is not in Pathoma? You must have used some other source to supplement Pathoma?

 

[Zuhal]

What I did is type notes while reading and then reading and memorizing the notes. It's hard, grueling and needs time but I tell you it's 100% worth it. I find that information stick in my head much better when I type it out. I've been scoring 80% in USMLE World on first try in pathology pretty much because of Goljan, and I haven't touched path in 1.5 weeks. And the ones I've missed I have recognized that I read in Goljan.

RR Path is an absolutely brilliant book. It organizes the information in your head in a logical way.

I tried to annotate FA using RR, it worked for the first 8 chapters (general principles) but I can't see myself doing that for all the system. It's extremely time-consuming and although I've completely rearranged my FA, I still feel like its too crowded as is, to a point where I don't want to look at it anymore lol. Thanks for your reply.

 

[da Vincis World]

What about the stuff that is not in Pathoma? You must have used some other source to supplement Pathoma?

Well, I knew a lot of path from school, just as most of us do. Other than that just pathoma, first aid, and uworld. The trick is knowing a few resources very well and staying away from stuff that is too dense.

 

[Zuhal]

Well, I knew a lot of path from school, just as most of us do. Other than that just pathoma, first aid, and uworld. The trick is knowing a few resources very well and staying away from stuff that is too dense.

My path background isn't too bad but sometimes you tend to forget some details, regardless of how strong your background is. I'll give you an example, the other day I can't remember if this was a Kaplan or a UsmleRx question but they were asking about the possible pathogenesis behind Seborrheic keratosis (leser-trelat sign) and in the options they hand a bunch of cytokines so even if you knew the disease and what malignancy is commonly associated with it, you still couldn't answer the questions if you didn't remembered this minute detail from robbins. I know it doesn't happen a lot but i wonder if Uworld's explanations are as detailed as that... another example is resorption atelectasis, I watched the pathoma videos for respiratory and he didn't mention it at all, the different types of emphysema. he only talks about centriacinar and panacinar. completely ignores septal emphysema.
You're probably right about Uworld, I need to get on that asap.

 

[Wolverines83]

Hi guys,
So I know you've probably seen this question asked multiple times and I have tried to look up some answers before starting this thread, but came up with nothing useful. I started reading RR about 3 weeks ago. I would do the histo, anatomy, embryo, physio, pharm for a particular system and then use Goljan's RR for the pathology part. Problem is I am not retaining what I'm learning at all.My score in pathology went down from 65% before starting to study at all (but of course with second year's path knowledge) to 59%! Something is seriously wrong. The material is presented in a very overwhelming way and I cannot afford to spend more than two days on a pathology topic! I like that he goes into extensive details for certain diseases, but sometimes I feel like a lot of it is irrelevant for step I. Should I be feeling this way? lol Somehow, I feel like I shouldn't be feeling this way.
Bottom line, I'd like to know how you guys study the book. I know some of you are satisfied with his audios, I am not. I need to do more than just listen. Also, is there another source I can use with Goljan to reinforce my understanding/retention?

Any piece of advise will be helpful

It sits next to FA, ready to explain anything that I don't quite "get" from the FA review/bullet style. It's a FA supplement, not a primary source. Plowing through the whole thing would take too much time.

I think people blow off FA a little to much. It really is an amazing guide for what you need to know. Use that as your base, use RR to explain anything that just doesn't make sense. Then use UWorld to show you how you need to think about it and "fine tune" your knowledge.

EDIT: But if you're using FA 2012, be damn sure you corrected everything!

 

[OneMoreRound]

It sits next to FA, ready to explain anything that I don't quite "get" from the FA review/bullet style. It's a FA supplement, not a primary source. Plowing through the whole thing would take too much time.

I think people blow off FA a little to much. It really is an amazing guide for what you need to know. Use that as your base, use RR to explain anything that just doesn't make sense. Then use UWorld to show you how you need to think about it and "fine tune" your knowledge.

This seems like a good idea.

 

[da Vincis World]

It sits next to FA, ready to explain anything that I don't quite "get" from the FA review/bullet style. It's a FA supplement, not a primary source. Plowing through the whole thing would take too much time.

I think people blow off FA a little to much. It really is an amazing guide for what you need to know. Use that as your base, use RR to explain anything that just doesn't make sense. Then use UWorld to show you how you need to think about it and "fine tune" your knowledge.

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