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If NPs have no post graduate training requirements, how does funding their post graduate training increase availability of NPs in underserved areas? Wouldnt it just lengthen the lead time to practice?

I am torn about this , because mandatory PG years for NPs would be a great thing for patients especially in states where they can practice alone, but on the other hand they are attempting to take allocate the GME money from the physician pool.
 
libertyyne said:

If NPs have no post graduate training requirements, how does funding their post graduate training increase availability of NPs in underserved areas? Wouldnt it just lengthen the lead time to practice?

I am torn about this , because mandatory PG years for NPs would be a great thing for patients especially in states where they can practice alone, but on the other hand they are attempting to take allocate the GME money from the physician pool.
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The goal would be to have better trained NP/PA to cover underserved areas that currently can't attract physicians.

The reality of the matter is that NP/PA's also probably aren't going to want to be in those areas either. And why would PA/NP work for a resident salary and resident hours when they can make double the salary working half as many hours. Not to mention they can probably already get that underserved job that nobody else wants that this entire thing is about without a residency.
 
ndafife said:
The goal would be to have better trained NP/PA to cover underserved areas that currently can't attract physicians.

The reality of the matter is that NP/PA's also probably aren't going to want to be in those areas either. And why would PA/NP work for a resident salary and resident hours when they can make double the salary working half as many hours. Not to mention they can probably already get that underserved job that nobody else wants that this entire thing is about without a residency.
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Because at least some of them are also after the same goal of being a better trained NP/PA..
 
What makes matters worse is that money could be used to finance 1 year of post-graduate education for MD’s/DO’s who can’t match. They could get 1 year, pass Step 3, and become a GP.

I would rather be seen by an MD/DO who failed Step 1 their first time than an NP who never sat through USMLE to begin with.
 
libertyyne said:

If NPs have no post graduate training requirements, how does funding their post graduate training increase availability of NPs in underserved areas? Wouldnt it just lengthen the lead time to practice?

I am torn about this , because mandatory PG years for NPs would be a great thing for patients especially in states where they can practice alone, but on the other hand they are attempting to take allocate the GME money from the physician pool.
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They should call them practicing Nurses or Nurses acting like doctors... not the fancy words... "Doctor of nurse practitioner"....
 
Goro said:
Bear with me kids, but does the AMA have anything to say about this? There used to be a time where the AMA was pretty powerful (association being a more polite word for "union").
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They've made it their priority lately:

www.ama-assn.org

AMA successfully fights scope of practice expansions that threaten patient safety

Patients deserve care led by physicians. The AMA successfully fights scope of practice expansions that threaten patient safety through research and education.
www.ama-assn.org www.ama-assn.org

AMA successfully fights scope of practice expansions that threaten patient safety
Patients deserve care led by physicians—the most highly educated, trained and skilled health care professionals. Through research, advocacy and education, the AMA vigorously defends the practice of medicine against scope of practice expansions that threaten patient safety. #StopScopeCreep
 
Talk about misleading data.

According to Figure 1, after completing a family medicine residency I’ll finally have the same amount of training as a PA who did a 1 year residency. But not nearly as much as a DNP. Didn’t know it was MD training that was the shortcut.
 
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Lol...

This is so juvenile...
 
Link0358 said:
Talk about misleading data.

According to Figure 1, after completing a family medicine residency I’ll finally have the same amount of training as a PA who did a 1 year residency. But not nearly as much as a DNP. Didn’t know it was MD training that was the shortcut.
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Definitely misleading. The "hands on" experience does not equal to medical school lol.
 
popopopop said:
Definitely misleading. The "hands on" experience does not equal to medical school lol.
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Then on top of that they are assuming nurses are getting 4yrs of work experience before pursuing an NP which is becoming less true these days. There are a lot of new grad nurses that never intend on being nurses and want to go straight into NP program.
 
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libertyyne said:

If NPs have no post graduate training requirements, how does funding their post graduate training increase availability of NPs in underserved areas? Wouldnt it just lengthen the lead time to practice?

I am torn about this , because mandatory PG years for NPs would be a great thing for patients especially in states where they can practice alone, but on the other hand they are attempting to take allocate the GME money from the physician pool.
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Getting back on topic here:
Bruh this is just another attack on our profession, so these midlevels can obfuscate who they really are (nurses with glorified, non-clinical arts degrees) by wasting millions of tax payer $$$ in order to blur the lines between themselves and actual medical doctors (MD/DO).

Personally I blame the boomers who sold us out - employed midlevels, agreed to train them, didn’t advocate for young physicians and are now worsening the issue (midlevels encroachment) by justifying starting this bull **** instead of nipping it in the bud when all of this first began.


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