How easy is it to get your hands on recreational medication (drugs)?

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I have heard that many Anesthesiologists tend to get themselves into drug abuse because of how often they come into contact with opiates and benzos and all. But how easy is it?

My dream of being an Anesthesiologist will not happen if I can't control my urge to use drugs to counter act my depression. I have 8 years since I'm just now starting college, but I want to know what I'd be getting myself into. I don't like the drug lifestyle and I feel like less of a person to resort to drugs for my problems, but I'm afraid that if I do make it, all the stress will push me to the edge.

So I was just wondering, compared to other doctors, how much more Anesths are around drugs.

And which drugs are the most common? Do they actually sit in closets shooting up Fentanyl?

And if you have anything mean to say, don't bother. I don't want a repeat of my last thread. I'm sorry I ask taboo questions, but I have to find out these things somehow.
 
Anesthesiologists are the only specialty that prescribe, dispense, and administer their own drugs. It is a powerful responsibility. What you say is true; far too many have died because they did not respect that responsibility. There are many threads on this issue.
It is my opinion that if you have a history of difficulties in this area, this specialty would not be a wise choice. The temptations will be enormous. Not intended to be a dig at you. I would give the same advice to anyone who has a history of drug issues.
Once you give in and try it once, it is over for you. The drugs we have at our disposal are very powerful. Too often, the end result is death of the anesthesiologist. Drug diversion or providing anesthesia while impaired can lead to serious patient injury. The lucky ones get caught before they kill themselves or their patient and face either loss of career or lifelong rehab and monitoring by local and state medical boards. These drugs will change your life forever in a very negative way.

Best of luck in your decisions.
 
Not trying to be mean to you either, but if you have addiction issues you should choose another medical specialty.
 
BobBarker said:
Not trying to be mean to you either, but if you have addiction issues you should choose another medical specialty.
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I think a fraction of my interest in Anesthesiology is the fascination with psychoactive drugs. But that's only part. Kind of an enhancement. I really really hope I can overcome my mental issues so I am not tempted because this seems to really be what I want to do in life. Opiates are my weakness. I was diagnosed with Major Depression w/ Slight Chemical Depression. I literally use drugs to counter act my god awful pain I can't control.

I don't even like weed, and I'm simply a social drinker. I just like Klonopin and Percocets, because they make me feel better. I just wish I could help it, and I'm afraid it may get in the way of my future.
 
Arch Guillotti said:
Assuming that you are not a troll (and that is a big assumption), I would stay far away from anesthesia.
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I'm hoping that as I get older and get farther from my teen years, my hormones will be less active and things will get easier. Al 4 of my grandparents were alcoholics, my uncle is,and my dad is plus he was addicted to coke. The odds are against me.

Any advice to change and avoid it?
 
CowsLoveJourney said:
I think a fraction of my interest in Anesthesiology is the fascination with psychoactive drugs. But that's only part. Kind of an enhancement. I really really hope I can overcome my mental issues so I am not tempted because this seems to really be what I want to do in life. Opiates are my weakness. I was diagnosed with Major Depression w/ Slight Chemical Depression. I literally use drugs to counter act my god awful pain I can't control.

I don't even like weed, and I'm simply a social drinker. I just like Klonopin and Percocets, because they make me feel better. I just wish I could help it, and I'm afraid it may get in the way of my future.
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Now you're making me think you are just yanking our chain.
 
Gern Blansten said:
Now you're making me think you are just yanking our chain.
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Why is that? There are certainly plenty of kids his age hooked on pain pills. I agree his topics are frequently inflammatory, but they aren't necessarily outlandish.

CowsLoveJourney said:
I'm hoping that as I get older and get farther from my teen years, my hormones will be less active and things will get easier. Al 4 of my grandparents were alcoholics, my uncle is,and my dad is plus he was addicted to coke. The odds are against me.

Any advice to change and avoid it?
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You would be wise to stay far, far away from this specialty. You will have better access to narcotis than any other physician specialty. You seem to possess the genetic components of addiction, so your life will be a difficult journey trying to avoid the temptations.

The best way to avoid drugs of addiction is to steer clear of situations in which they are present. Surround yourself with clean friends. Avoid jobs and environments where drugs are accessible. That rules out anesthesia. Your interest in this field seems to partially based on the power of these medications. That's a quick route to abuse once you learn the skills to control their power.
 
Bertelman said:
Why is that? There are certainly plenty of kids his age hooked on pain pills. I agree his topics are frequently inflammatory, but they aren't necessarily outlandish.
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Just based on history. Actually, for their sake, I hope they are just kidding. If not, as mentioned before, stay away from anesthesiology as a specialty.
 
Gern Blansten said:
Just based on history. Actually, for their sake, I hope they are just kidding. If not, as mentioned before, stay away from anesthesiology as a specialty.
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I know his last thread was equally strange, but I think we tend to overcall trolls around here. That thread displayed more ignorance than it did trolling. You or I go to a college party, we'd get 10 drunk people asking the same questions.

"Why do docs make so much money?"

"Can I score some drugs?"

At least once a week, some family member asks if I have a little extra midaz.
 
2b) The CLUELESS NEWBIE JOKE TROLL- The troll will either post a new
message or follow up on a previous thread with a funny, usually
blatantly incorrect or ironic header, and a witty or outrageously
stupid body. An example would be a post in ALT.SATAN with the header
"CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW MANY OUNCES ARE IN A PENTAGRAM?" This
may not get any replies, but the joke has been made. The troll can
chuckle to him/herself for hours.
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.troll/msg/bc2e71e19c590d8e

You've been had.

-copro
 
Copro, this is making me question everything about this new poster now. What if cows don't really love Journey. We all assume that they would, what with Steve Perry's melodic crooning, Neil Schon's seering guitar solos and Jonathan Cain's songwriting abilities... and then there's the hair. But what if they don't love Journey? What if they love AC/DC instead (The Bon Scott version of course...let's not get ridiculous)?

Oh the humanity!!
journey.2.jpg
 
at least two anesthesiologists that i have come across that spoke to the state board told me the following. If you have any addictive habits whether alcohol or past drug use, stay far far away from anesthesiology. its not that the field is wrong for you in terms of medicine, but the fact that you are surrounded my drugs that you draw up and administer, AND throw away. All it takes is a simple reasoning like, "its going to the trash anyway, and its barely anything" to end your career because you start your decline.

be smart, you already know your limitations which is huge. addictions don't go away, they are always there. an alcoholic can't be a social drinker EVER. medicine has lots to offer in other fields, think about it and good luck.
 
Gern Blansten said:
Copro, this is making me question everything about this new poster now. What if cows don't really love Journey. We all assume that they would, what with Steve Perry's melodic crooning, Neil Schon's seering guitar solos and Jonathan Cain's songwriting abilities... and then there's the hair. But what if they don't love Journey? What if they love AC/DC instead (The Bon Scott version of course...let's not get ridiculous)?

Oh the humanity!!
journey.2.jpg
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:laugh:

-copro
 
Gern Blansten said:
Copro, this is making me question everything about this new poster now. What if cows don't really love Journey. We all assume that they would, what with Steve Perry's melodic crooning, Neil Schon's seering guitar solos and Jonathan Cain's songwriting abilities... and then there's the hair. But what if they don't love Journey? What if they love AC/DC instead (The Bon Scott version of course...let's not get ridiculous)?

Oh the humanity!!
journey.2.jpg
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I would like to think the Bovine species has better musical taste all together then to listen to something that sounds like a dead cat coming back to life, only to write a musical about his death. (Bon Scott. I don't like him.)

But yes, many times I have thought that Anesthesiology might be too dangerous for my well being, which is sad, but I can accept it. My other pre-med choice is Emergency Medicine. At least there I can see how bad drugs can really get and I'll have a chance to be on the other side of them.

But if I wanted to troll you guys, I'd bring up Mid Levels and cliche statements about surgeons or something. OR, I'd make this same post but instead would be pro-drugs and would be LOOKING for a field that has easy access to narcotics.

I don't like drugs. I don't associate myself with drug users anymore. I could go on for hours why humans can't psychologically handle drugs or any other mind altering substance. For me, there is such a thing as "too much of a good thing". But I will admit, if it was up to me to dispose of a vial of something that would make me feel great, I'd have to try a little harder to accomplish that. Especially if I was doing it more then once a day, everyday.

Not fair.
 
My friend, assuming you truly are here for advice and not trolling.

1) Anesthesia is not for you. No if ands or buts, it could very easily be your funeral. No matter what you do, don't go into this specialty.

2) With your family and personal history I would not even drink socially. The risk is too high.

3) The narcs and weed. Stop now. Aim for a completely clean life. You may have control now but it can progress. Avoid the social situations on and off campus that can lead to decompensation. The party crowd is NOT who you should be hanging out with. Hook up with the outdoor crowd or other groups with healthier interests than getting wasted every weekend.

4) Seek help for your depression. Develop a trusting relationship with a medical professional (GP or psychiatrist) and express your addiction fears and depressive symptomology. Start doing cognitive behavioral therapy, either with your MD but more likely with a trained psychologist. If you are depressed it will help you. If you are not actively depressed now you will have additional psychological tools to deal with future depressions and the stress that college WILL bring. You exercise your body to stay healthy, this will exercise your mind.

There you go. If you are truly seeking advice I hope you take every single one of mine.

CanGas
 
anonymous internet forums are rarely fair. On the chance that you are completely serious, you got many answers to your question. If by chance you are messing with us, we have all had a bit of fun in the process. Seriously though, best of luck.
 
CanGas said:
My friend, assuming you truly are here for advice and not trolling.

1) Anesthesia is not for you. No if ands or buts, it could very easily be your funeral. No matter what you do, don't go into this specialty.

2) With your family and personal history I would not even drink socially. The risk is too high.

3) The narcs and weed. Stop now. Aim for a completely clean life. You may have control now but it can progress. Avoid the social situations on and off campus that can lead to decompensation. The party crowd is NOT who you should be hanging out with. Hook up with the outdoor crowd or other groups with healthier interests than getting wasted every weekend.

4) Seek help for your depression. Develop a trusting relationship with a medical professional (GP or psychiatrist) and express your addiction fears and depressive symptomology. Start doing cognitive behavioral therapy, either with your MD but more likely with a trained psychologist. If you are depressed it will help you. If you are not actively depressed now you will have additional psychological tools to deal with future depressions and the stress that college WILL bring. You exercise your body to stay healthy, this will exercise your mind.

There you go. If you are truly seeking advice I hope you take every single one of mine.

CanGas
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I said I DON'T smoke weed. I hate it. And I am already 10 steps ahead of you. I'm on my second SSRI and am in the middle of a transitional period in life. I went to college last year and the depression ate me alive.
 
Good. I hope one of those 10 steps is the decision not to go into any profession that is going to give you access to deadly, addictive substances.

CanGas

CowsLoveJourney said:
I said I DON'T smoke weed. I hate it. And I am already 10 steps ahead of you. I'm on my second SSRI and am in the middle of a transitional period in life. I went to college last year and the depression ate me alive.
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CanGas said:
Good. I hope one of those 10 steps is the decision not to go into any profession that is going to give you access to deadly, addictive substances.

CanGas
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We can all think of it a different way though. Let's say I was able to build the strength up to not let drugs affect me. I would respect the medicine. Respect it enough to be dedicated to learning and mastering the art of it. Maybe it'd make me a great doctor? The cup is now half full.
 
CowsLoveJourney said:
I don't like drugs..
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wait wait wait.. hold on.. lemme quote you here ...

I just like Klonopin and Percocets, because they make me feel better.
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insert some boy george and culture club here:

"If I listen to your lies would you say
Im a man without conviction
Im a man who doesnt know
How to sell a contradiction
You come and go"

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dfk said:
wait wait wait.. hold on.. lemme quote you here ...



insert some boy george and culture club here:

"If I listen to your lies would you say
Im a man without conviction
Im a man who doesnt know
How to sell a contradiction
You come and go"

cultureclub-kissingtobeclever1996FR.jpg
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What I meant is, I don't like the fact that I want to rely on drugs. It's like an obese person not liking that they eat so much. I don't take drugs cause they're fun, but cause they take the pain away.

Plus, I'm clean atm anyway.
 
CowsLoveJourney said:
What I meant is, I don't like the fact that I want to rely on drugs. It's like an obese person not liking that they eat so much.
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1. I could care less that I eat too much. Does that make me a tubby? Sure. Does that mean obesity should be compared to narcotics addiction? Um, no.

On a side note: Let's face it, fat people don't care that they eat too much. The only thing I used to care about was having to work harder to talk to chicks. I had to rely on being funny and interesting and ****. But now that I'm married, I don't even have to do that.

2. First you say

I don't take drugs cause they're fun, but cause they take the pain away.
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Then you say...

Plus, I'm clean atm anyway.
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First of all, if you mean pain like in the emo way, you need to see a counselor and ask him/her the question that you're asking here on these forums. I guarantee you no counselor in a zillion years will tell you that you should consider Anesthesiology.

Now if you mean pain as in another way....no honest person who suffers from chronic pain would ever say, "But I'm clean at the moment." It's not about being clean, it's about functioning at a normal level.

Listen to what they're telling you dude. Pick another field. If you "like the way percocet makes you feel"............anesthesiology is not for you. You don't need an anesthesiologist to tell you that. You just need to have some self realization and use some common sense.

3. Lastly, get through college first. You may choose a different course. If you do happen to stay on the medicine path, wait til 3rd and 4th year. Who knows..you may not even like anesthesiology. You may find that procedural stuff isn't for you or you don't like the pace. Or you don't like moments of sheer panic where you have to think quick on your feet. Just get through school first and then if you still have to ask a question about prescription drug abuse and anesthesia....the answer would still be no.
 
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1. I could care less that I eat too much. Does that make me a tubby? Sure. Does that mean obesity should be compared to narcotics addiction? Um, no.

On a side note: Let's face it, fat people don't care that they eat too much. The only thing I used to care about was having to work harder to talk to chicks. I had to rely on being funny and interesting and ****. But now that I'm married, I don't even have to do that.

2. First you say

Then you say...

First of all, if you mean pain like in the emo way, you need to see a counselor and ask him/her the question that you're asking here on these forums. I guarantee you no counselor in a zillion years will tell you that you should consider Anesthesiology.

Now if you mean pain as in another way....no honest person who suffers from chronic pain would ever say, "But I'm clean at the moment." It's not about being clean, it's about functioning at a normal level.

Listen to what they're telling you dude. Pick another field. If you "like the way percocet makes you feel"............anesthesiology is not for you. You don't need an anesthesiologist to tell you that. You just need to have some self realization and use some common sense.

3. Lastly, get through college first. You may choose a different course. If you do happen to stay on the medicine path, wait til 3rd and 4th year. Who knows..you may not even like anesthesiology. You may find that procedural stuff isn't for you or you don't like the pace. Or you don't like moments of sheer panic where you have to think quick on your feet. Just get through school first and then if you still have to ask a question about prescription drug abuse and anesthesia....the answer would still be no.
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The pain is from the depression. It's not something you can help. And it's not "emo". That is just a trend where little kids bitch about typical teenage problems. And I doubt a counselor is gonna be educated on the available drugs that a Anesthesiologists are near.

Plus, my drug problem isn't huge. I kind of go through phases. I mean, believe it or not, I got my wisdoms removed last year and when I was asked if I'd like narcotic painkillers, I said NO.
 
CowsLoveJourney said:
Plus, my drug problem isn't huge. I kind of go through phases. I mean, believe it or not, I got my wisdoms removed last year and when I was asked if I'd like narcotic painkillers, I said NO.
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Textbook.
 
OP, you have totally convinced me. You should absolutely go into anesthesiology. Don't let these old fuddy duddys try to squash your dream. You are totally mature enough to use drugs in a responsible way. These other posters are just trying to hold you down. Don't let them. I mean, what does it matter if you're access to drugs causes you to fall back into your addiction, and in the process you inadvertently kill a patient. What is important is that you are fulfilling your dream!
 
OP, you have totally convinced me. You should absolutely go into anesthesiology. Don't let these old fuddy duddys try to squash your dream. You are totally mature enough to use drugs in a responsible way. These other posters are just trying to hold you down. Don't let them. I mean, what does it matter if you're access to drugs causes you to fall back into your addiction, and in the process you inadvertently kill a patient. What is important is that you are fulfilling your dream!
 
cows. ...


you need to sort out a lot of things before you even think about going into medicine.

as far as anesthesia - it is NOT for you. period. trust me on this. you are the stereotypical drug abuser.

you're already ADDICTED to opioids (maybe you aren't tolerant and will not withdraw) - the psychosocial brain chemistry has been altered, forever. with your family history and current predicament it will be a MIRACLE if you don't end up toothless in some rehab for H and booze in 5 years.

you have NO idea how screwed you already are.

assess your life now. make real decisions for yourself now. maybe, if you're strong enough and have enough support you'll have a chance.
 
I disagree i think anesthesiology is the perfect field: everybody knows fentanyl is the best treatment for depression.

The dude will have his hands on some serious quality $hit without having to suffer the uncomfortable trips to the hood... AND the patient picks up the tab. What more do you need?

Gas is for u btich..uh cow sorry.
 
I must have slept through that lecture in medical school and residency on prescribing percocet for major depression....😴
 
Go ahead and close this thread.

I see this is no place for a poor misguided pre-med like me.
 
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