How easy would it be to get a part-time ED job right out of EM residency in a large city, like Los Angeles?

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I heard part-time ED jobs are hard to come by. Would it be possible if I, in the future, agreed to only work night shifts?

 

[cyanide12345678]

Depends, when do you think you are graduating? In a couple years from now, sure, especially if nocturnist. In 7-8 years from now, i doubt it.

 

[RuralEDDoc]

Anyone can get a crappy job in LA. Just have to lower your standards.

 

[alpinism]

From my own personal experience its extremely hard.

You have to realize that most groups prefer full time doctors since its cheaper for the hospital. This means that for the most part any place thats willing to hire part time doctors is doing so because its not a desirable job. This is often because of either the job locations or the job conditions. Hospitals in major cites in great locations have no shortage of job applicants and so if they're willing to hire part time doctors its nearly always because of poor conditions that prevents them from being able to hire enough full time doctors.

 

[Mount Asclepius]

From my own personal experience its extremely hard.

You have to realize that most groups prefer full time doctors since its cheaper for the hospital. This means that for the most part any place thats willing to hire part time doctors is doing so because its not a desirable job. This is often because of either the job locations or the job conditions. Hospitals in major cites in great locations have no shortage of job applicants and so if they're willing to hire part time doctors its nearly always because of poor conditions that prevents them from being able to hire enough full time doctors.

Agree, although with the caveat that certain groups may hire non-partner, part time physicians as a strategy to increase revenue for partners. It can be subtle. It may be malignant, or it may not be as a win-win situation. Just something to be aware of.

 

[RustedFox]

Looks like OP is pre-med, and is already asking questions like these.

Amigo; hard stop. HARD stop.

 

[Brigade4Radiant]

I don’t see how a specialty can be considered competitive if you have a problem getting a job in a large city.

Like if FM in Kaiser can make 275 and with EM they pay 150 an hour doing 12 hour shifts you make like 260

So would FM be more competitive than EM!

 

[Angry Birds]

I actually don’t think it’s hard. Work at a place one year full time as the night doc. Then , tell ‘em you need to leave but you can still fill in some nights per month if they need. Done.

 

[Arcan57]

Being a part-time doc fresh out of residency is a tough gig. The first couple of years of attendinghood is where you solidify your practice and figure out how to deal with a life that includes being an EM attending (which is similar yet totally different from being an EM resident). The issue with being a part-timer is that it's very likely no one is going to care about making you successful. Most medical directors are pretty close to bumping up against the limits of what they can or will do to stay on as director. You extend yourself for the new FT docs because they're an investment in the future and you'll feel good about seeing them on the schedule for years to come. You go to bat a little harder when gray areas pop up in peer review, you see them more so you notice what they're struggling with before it becomes a major issue, etc. When you're a PT-er you're always someone else's problem.

 

[Rekt]

The real answer is how low will you go. Once this surplus hits, the job goes to the lowest bidder. Cold call the directors saying you'll work for 100/hr or less and you can work anywhere.

 

[Angry Birds]

The real answer is how low will you go. Once this surplus hits, the job goes to the lowest bidder. Cold call the directors saying you'll work for 100/hr or less and you can work anywhere.

Won't they see this as a red flag lol

 

[EMedGrrl]

From my own personal experience its extremely hard.

You have to realize that most groups prefer full time doctors since its cheaper for the hospital. This means that for the most part any place thats willing to hire part time doctors is doing so because its not a desirable job. This is often because of either the job locations or the job conditions. Hospitals in major cites in great locations have no shortage of job applicants and so if they're willing to hire part time doctors its nearly always because of poor conditions that prevents them from being able to hire enough full time doctors.

OTOH, they don't have to pay part-timers benefits...

 

[turkeyjerky]

OTOH, they don't have to pay part-timers benefits...

Many don't pay benefits to full timers either

 

[CyrilFiggis]

The real answer is how low will you go. Once this surplus hits, the job goes to the lowest bidder. Cold call the directors saying you'll work for 100/hr or less and you can work anywhere.

Might as well be an APP at that point. Doing crap like this only drives down salaries.

OP, working part time right off the bat is bad for many reasons above, so wait the seven years until you’re actually faced with this scenario.