How good of a school is UTMB?

[MacJ777]

How good of a school is UTMB?

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[emt57]

As far as reputations is middle of the road, UTSW and Baylor take the cake in Texas. They are known to have high step 1 scores but everyone else claims its inflated, I don't know much about this or care.

What I will tell you is that they do something right there. Of all the doctors I know and work with, the UTMB grads are some the nicest and best all around doctors. I have had multiple other people in the healthcare field whether it be nurses, pharm. reps or other scurb techs say the exact same thing. No matter how is ranks nationally or in-state I have always admired the school for doctors it turns out.

 

[UTMBMD2012]

UTSW USMLE step 1 = 230 this past year
UTMB USMLE step 2 = 229

The spread is pretty much negligible. The curricula between the two are very similar (system based). The major difference in my eyes are patient type, hospital type, and education environment (in the sense of cooperativity). If you learn better in an environment where you are driven by intense competition UTSW is for you, where as if you learn bettern in a cooperative environment, UTMB is for you.

Thoughts?

 

[myKuduSlewaZulu]

UTSW USMLE step 1 = 230 this past year
UTMB USMLE step 2 = 229

The spread is pretty much negligible. The curricula between the two are very similar (system based). The major difference in my eyes are patient type, hospital type, and education environment (in the sense of cooperativity). If you learn better in an environment where you are driven by intense competition UTSW is for you, where as if you learn bettern in a cooperative environment, UTMB is for you.

Thoughts?

Actually, the last Step 1 scores for UTMB I saw averaged 227, maybe a 226, with a >99% pass rate for this year. Last year it was 226.

The curricula are quite different. Remember, UTSW is lecture based, and UTMB is PBL/lecture based.

 

[darkelven29]

I thought UTMB has lots of research opportunities and great interesting people and history. But the location really sucks.... Can UTMB students ever do internships in Houston or other ways to find connections to the med center in Houston?

 

[TheRealMD]

UTSW USMLE step 1 = 230 this past year
UTMB USMLE step 2 = 229

The spread is pretty much negligible. The curricula between the two are very similar (system based). The major difference in my eyes are patient type, hospital type, and education environment (in the sense of cooperativity). If you learn better in an environment where you are driven by intense competition UTSW is for you, where as if you learn bettern in a cooperative environment, UTMB is for you.

Thoughts?

Please, no perpetuations of "intense competitiveness". Unless you go to the school, you aren't qualified to say that. And that's really not a reason to pick 1 school over another (because there are competitive people everywhere!)

It's a completely different environment. The type of patients you'll be seeing, where you'll be living, and approach to the curriculum itself probably couldn't be more different. If you interviewed at both, then it pretty much hits you on the head.

Again, I'd ignore the Step scores as they really mean nothing. Whether you like where you are learning or not will have a MUCH greater effect on your Step score than the average.

 

[myKuduSlewaZulu]

I thought UTMB has lots of research opportunities and great interesting people and history. But the location really sucks.... Can UTMB students ever do internships in Houston or other ways to find connections to the med center in Houston?

You'll have plenty of research opportunities at either school (and most others, for that matter). Yes, you can do elective rotations elsewhere, and quite a few grads end up in the TMC for residency. If you think the location is that bad, I would let that weigh pretty heavily in your decision. G'luck!

Please, no perpetuations of "intense competitiveness". Unless you go to the school, you aren't qualified to say that. And that's really not a reason to pick 1 school over another (because there are competitive people everywhere!)

It's a completely different environment. The type of patients you'll be seeing, where you'll be living, and approach to the curriculum itself probably couldn't be more different. If you interviewed at both, then it pretty much hits you on the head.

Again, I'd ignore the Step scores as they really mean nothing. Whether you like where you are learning or not will have a MUCH greater effect on your Step score than the average.

Ding Ding Ding! 👍

 

[DanW]

Not very good any more. One example: In the US News and World Report college rankings, they refuses to even rank UTMB. They rank about 86 of the accredited med schools, then dump the rest into a group that they will not even review. Puts UTMB pretty far down the league table.
Yes, USN rankings are somewhat controversial, but when they dump a school into the bottom grouping, something's wrong with the school.
Recently, "Vizient", a private med school ranking organization, dropped UTMB's score almost 20 points, to 76, putting it in the bottom quartile of schools ranked.
Medicare gave it two stars, the lowest ranking in a 50-mile radius (going into Houston), and Consumer Reports gave it a 41/100.
So, want to graduate from a known-to-be-bad school? Not how I want to start my career!

 

[Dox4lyfe]

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[hopefulERdoc251]

Not very good any more. One example: In the US News and World Report college rankings, they refuses to even rank UTMB. They rank about 86 of the accredited med schools, then dump the rest into a group that they will not even review. Puts UTMB pretty far down the league table.
Yes, USN rankings are somewhat controversial, but when they dump a school into the bottom grouping, something's wrong with the school.
Recently, "Vizient", a private med school ranking organization, dropped UTMB's score almost 20 points, to 76, putting it in the bottom quartile of schools ranked.
Medicare gave it two stars, the lowest ranking in a 50-mile radius (going into Houston), and Consumer Reports gave it a 41/100.
So, want to graduate from a known-to-be-bad school? Not how I want to start my career!

You literally could have scrolled over the little "1" next to the school name and realized THE SCHOOL did not provide information to USNWR, therefore they were unable to make a ranking....#troll

 

[Isoval]

Not very good any more. One example: In the US News and World Report college rankings, they refuses to even rank UTMB. They rank about 86 of the accredited med schools, then dump the rest into a group that they will not even review. Puts UTMB pretty far down the league table.
Yes, USN rankings are somewhat controversial, but when they dump a school into the bottom grouping, something's wrong with the school.
Recently, "Vizient", a private med school ranking organization, dropped UTMB's score almost 20 points, to 76, putting it in the bottom quartile of schools ranked.
Medicare gave it two stars, the lowest ranking in a 50-mile radius (going into Houston), and Consumer Reports gave it a 41/100.
So, want to graduate from a known-to-be-bad school? Not how I want to start my career!

US News does not "refuse to rank" UTMB.

Following Hurricane Ike in 2008, UTMB voluntarily pulled its rankings from US News to prevent an artificial deflation in ranking following the devastation caused by Ike. Prior to their decision to withhold rank data from US News, they were ranked almost identically to UT Houston.