How is it different?

[cfdavid]

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Gents/Ladies,

How is this current MD/DO "vs" CRNA debate really any different from other mid-level providers that practice in unison with other specialties??

OB's have nurse mid-wives, IM and FP have nurse practicioners, and anesthesia has nurse anesthetists. I'm sure I've missing other examples as well. I'm serious, how is this really that different from these other specialties?

I've recently talked to a veteran MD anesthesiologist (Harvard grad that did a stint as my states chapter of the ASA), that currently practices in a team model (and has for probably most of her career). She's not worried in the least about a "nurse takeover". What's up guys, am I missing something?

 

[The_Sensei]

Gents/Ladies,

How is this current MD/DO "vs" CRNA debate really any different from other mid-level providers that practice in unison with other specialties??

OB's have nurse mid-wives, IM and FP have nurse practicioners, and anesthesia has nurse anesthetists. I'm sure I've missing other examples as well. I'm serious, how is this really that different from these other specialties?

I've recently talked to a veteran MD anesthesiologist (Harvard grad that did a stint as my states chapter of the ASA), that currently practices in a team model (and has for probably most of her career). She's not worried in the least about a "nurse takeover". What's up guys, am I missing something?

Not really, dude. Just another version of "the sky is falling".

 

[threepeas]

there is no doubt that mid level practioners do a great job filling the void that physicians have created in this country by not graduating enough clinicians.
what is different about CRNAs is in certain states that think they are really desperate for anesthesia practioners, the politicians are being pushed by the ANA to create an autonomous environment for their members.

NPs seem to have more autonomy than CRNAs on paper, but 99% work with MDs closely because they respect and understand the necessity.

PAs define themselves in their mission statement as dependent practioners and would gain nothing by advocating autonomy.

So some feel the CRNA movement is the tip of the speer for the nursing community to create a medical system apart from and independent of medical doctors. this is evidenced by the nursing governing bodies entertaining doctorate in nursing degrees to further secure of their profession.

this semi covert movement by nursing and CRNAs may work for awhile but when the public gains wide spread knowledge of this it will stop in its tracks. that is where the ASA has failed so far. it hasnt educated the public. they are our greatest resource.

i was a PA before going to medschool and understand, respect, and appreciate the role they play. however i am advidly against changing policy regarding CRNA autonomy with out changing the training that its dependence was predicated on. but once you change the training it will more mirror what MDs go through and most will see that it is not worth it.

 

[utmey07]

I ask the same question at each interview I go to for residency and get the same answers you have all just stated. There are too many chicken little's on this board.