How is working as a scribe?

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Does anyone here work as a scribe? Can you give me some information about how the job has prepared you well for medical school? What kind of things do you do on a day to day basis and do you get to interact with doctors a lot?

Also, how was the employment process? Training wise?
Drug test? Random drug tests?
Interview, phone interview or what?

Thanks guys!

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It's a terrific experience for me. The job opened up a lot of doors. I had quite a few LOR from doctors that I worked with, and my clinical experience was a great asset during med school interviews.

The job is fairly demanding. I worked 14 hour shifts, most of it being on my feet. I had the chance to interact with patients, take history, vitals, present to the attending, and even did procedures.

The job isn't all rainbows and sunshine however. It was really tiring. And after 3-4 months, most people hit a plateau where what you learn begins to stagnate.

I trained for 1 week in the classroom, then I shadowed a scribe for 2 weeks in the clinic. After that I was able to partner up with an attending and work without restrictions. The interview was fairly relaxed. Nowhere near as intense as med school interviews.

You seem very worried about the drug tests, lol. Where I worked there were no drug tests.

Overall, I whole heartedly recommend it. But for me, and perhaps for you as well, there was an expiration date to the job if you catch my meaning.
 
It does get tiring eventually because for the most part you're just a glorified secretary. It is exciting at first and I do think it was one of my best pre-med experiences. I'm going to continue to scribe until about mid summer and then relax before school starts, but I think it gives you a huge leg up in terms of basic clinical knowledge and experience with SOAP notes. Depending on the company you'll also get exposure to the Electronic Health Record and get to practice with that. I can't wait to see what 3rd year will be like with all this knowledge, as many previous scribes have told me 3rd year was great for them.
 
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Thanks for all the info guys! Very helpful! I think I'm going to apply here soon for a scribe position, it sounds very promising
 
Another question I forgot to ask... Do you need any previous medical experience?
 
I am currently working as a scribe, this is my gap year between college and med school.

It is fantastic clinical experience. I worked as a CNA a few years ago and this is so much better. As a CNA, I was interacting mostly with nurses. As a scribe, I interact with doctors - all day. Yes, you work with doctors all day every day. With my company, we work with a doctor the entire shift - wherever they go, I go! I'm in the ED and I like it for the most part because you get to see a huge variety of cases at different acuity levels. Scribing is also fun because you start to learn a little bit of medical decision-making.

It didn't help me much for my application because I started working after I submitted my AMCAS, but I did send update letters about my experience. I was also able to talk about it interviews, which was probably the best part of this job. My interviewers were so interested in it and wanted to know more about it. One of them even said, "I think every doctor should have a scribe!" I was able to talk about how I currently work in healthcare, I know how it works, I know the downfalls, and yet I still want to be a physician. It also made me see how different parts of the medical team (doctors, nurses, PAs, techs, scribes, etc) work together, and interviewers really liked to hear how I know about the collaborative aspect of healthcare.

Since I haven't started med school yet, I don't know how much it will help. My suspicion is consistent with what you said, it will help for 3rd year rotations as we literally write medical notes all day. I also think it is helpful to be learning the "language" of medicine.

My company does not allow patient contact, which is just fine with me. I did enough vital signs, cleaning patients, etc when I worked as a CNA. I actually prefer this because I truly get to observe the physician while I'm there. We definitely are not allowed to do procedures!

The employment process depends on the company. I work for one of the larger scribe companies that the hospital has a contract with. I have heard it is better if you can get a job where you're directly employed by the hospital/office, as you usually get paid more. I applied for the job, was contacted within a few weeks for the interview. I was supposed to have an in-person interview but something came up so I ended up having a phone interview. It was a general job interview, nothing too crazy. It probably lasted 20 minutes. Heard back that I got the position that evening. I started training maybe 3-4 weeks later. We had 12 hours of classroom learning (4 days and 3 hours each) where we learned some terminology, basic physiology, how to write a History & Physical Exam, and we had a few tests/quizzes. All of these were provided by the scribe company. Then we had 5 shifts (40 hours) of training on the job. If you were not fully competent on your own during that 5th shift, you were fired. I don't believe prior medical experience is needed. I did have some but most of my colleagues did not. You need to demonstrate a sincere interest in the medical field. Everyone I work with is pre-med or pre-PA.

The need for scribes is highly dependent on the area, from what I've been told. My group is always hiring, but I know there are some cities where it is harder to get a position. It's a job with a quick turnover rate. Most people are only there 1-2 years (some even less) as we are going to professional school after scribing. The worst part of the job for me is the pay. The schedule is also something that is difficult for me. Since the ED never closes, you work whenever. Days, evenings, overnights, weekends, holidays. I'm glad I'm doing it on my year off, as I think it would have been difficult to manage during college. Some scribes work in offices that are open 9-5, that may be an easier place to work as far as scheduling. I like the variety of cases in the ED though.

Oh and as far as drug tests, there may have been one for the hospital where I was hired. I don't think the company required one, but the hospital may have. They don't do random drug tests where I work, but honestly this is probably location-dependent.

Feel free to PM me if you want to know which company I work for. Good luck!
I was going to write a long post, but you hit all of the highlights for me! (I think we likely work for the same company given the detailed outline of the training).

I just wanted to note that I recently started working in a private practice place on top of the ED and it is
a) a lot more laid back
b) a lot easier to schedule
c) COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY.
 
I was going to write a long post, but you hit all of the highlights for me! (I think we likely work for the same company given the detailed outline of the training).

c) COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY.

Interesting. I know scribing is spreading to such fields as orthopedics, neurology, hospitalists, etc. How do you like it? What are the biggest differences?
 
Interesting. I know scribing is spreading to such fields as orthopedics, neurology, hospitalists, etc. How do you like it? What are the biggest differences?
Part of the difference for me is that these charts aren't actually used for billing - just for inhouse records.
Also, they're a LOT more focused (it's ortho, btw)...if the patient comes in for a knee problem, you document a knee exam. If they're a returning patient with a followup or a long-term problem, you literally just click "No change" to leave it the same as the last visit (only for some parts of the chart, but still).
Altogether, it's a lot more laid-back and each chart is waay easier. The schedule is fixed and lighter. However, there are a TON of patients each day.
 
I'm scribing in an ED, and I can report that it's a great experience. It DOES have a significant learning curve, and some people, especially those whose English skills aren't top-notch, quit due to stress.

I know SO much more about medicine and interacting with nurses, techs, transport, etc after just a few months in the ED. It doesn't often pay well, but I think you are fairly compensated via experience.

In short, do it. 😉
 
That is really interesting! Thank you for sharing! Do you prefer outpatient to ED?

I'm also a scribe, but I've been working for a private hospitalist group at a teaching hospital. I've tried ER scribing as well, and I think the level of knowledge you have an opportunity to attain by working in an inpatient setting is incredible. Most applicants will have anywhere from 0-200 hours of shadowing, but my coworkers and I all will have seen several thousand patients, and actively discussed most of these cases with the attending.

I'd say inpatient scribing is much more difficult than ED scribing in the sense that it takes a good amount of brain power for each patient's note. We essentially have to pre-create assessment/plans for each patient, prior to the examination process. This takes an unreal amount of critical thinking, that M3s and M4s deal with on a regular basis. Many of the people hired simply can't do it, and have to be let go.

As far as being ready for medical school - I'm ready. I already discuss cases extensively with M3's, M4s, residents, and attends, and am able to hold my own. The experience has taught me an unreal amount of highly relevant info - I definitely highly recommend becoming an inpatient scribe if you can!

ED scribing is also fantastic though, and in my opinion, a much better experience than any thing else you can do (including EMS).

tl;dr - internal medicine scribing > ED scribing > anything else
 
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