How many candidates do programs rank per position?

[septoplasty]

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Since the last relevant thread from this particular subject was 7 years ago, I thought I'd try and gain more of an insight.

How many per position? 10?

I'd imagine if it was that number, and the program had 10 positions, they'd be ranking a hundred people. Dang.

Also, I've applied to FM if that matters.

 

[Winged Scapula]

It depends on the program and what their history is for how deep they go on their list. There has been history of programs not ranking enough and coming up unmatched.

About 10 per position was right for my residency program.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I'm not actually a member of the rank committee, but we interview about 100 people for 8 slots. I'm guessing we rank most of them, so that leaves us with at least 10 people per slot.

 

[twright]

Since the last relevant thread from this particular subject was 7 years ago, I thought I'd try and gain more of an insight.

How many per position? 10?

I'd imagine if it was that number, and the program had 10 positions, they'd be ranking a hundred people. Dang.

Also, I've applied to FM if that matters.

Totally depends on the program. We interview about 5-6 per slot, and we rank about 3-4.

 

[gutonc]

Agree with the others. Somewhere in the 7-15/spot range is pretty typical. My fellowship program interviewed 42 people for 3 spots this year.

 

[Raryn]

Look at FREIDA for an idea of how many people a program interviews. You can usually assume that they rank almost everyone they interview. Ratio is usually close to 10:1.

You can also look at the NRMP data to see how far down said list different specialties end up going. http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddata2012.pdf table 17 shows you that most specialties go 4-7 spots down their rank list for every spot.

(So if a program has 10 spots, they'll interview 100 people, and the 10th spot will be taken up by someone in the 40-70 range).

 

[Winged Scapula]

Look at FREIDA for an idea of how many people a program interviews. You can usually assume that they rank almost everyone they interview. Ratio is usually close to 10:1.

You can also look at the NRMP data to see how far down said list different specialties end up going. http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddata2012.pdf table 17 shows you that most specialties go 4-7 spots down their rank list for every spot.

(So if a program has 10 spots, they'll interview 100 people, and the 10th spot will be taken up by someone in the 40-70 range).

Different programs do it differently.

We interviewed about 30 people per slot, ranked about 10 of those per slot.

Same for fellowship; there were several whom we did not rank.

 

[KeyzerSoze]

Different programs do it differently.

We interviewed about 30 people per slot, ranked about 10 of those per slot.

Same for fellowship; there were several whom we did not rank.

Why not rank more? Sure it's unlikely you'll go that far down your list, but does your program really prefer finding new applicants in the SOAP over 2/3 of your interviewees?

 

[septoplasty]

Thank you everyone! A bit of nervousness drove in now that I know some programs don't rank all applicants. I hope they somehow convey this to the applicants.

Also, for future viewers:

http://www.nrmp.org/res_match/about_res/impact.html

Theres a nice table that shows the above posts quantified by the NRMP.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Why not rank more? Sure it's unlikely you'll go that far down your list, but does your program really prefer finding new applicants in the SOAP over 2/3 of your interviewees?

we never had to scramble during the years I was there for Categoricals so I guess there was some method to their madness. But I understand the rationale that it would be better to take someone you know than take your chances. Egotism I guess.

Some of them would be bumped to the Prelim list, so we had a second ranking list. Can't remember how many were on that.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Thank you everyone! A bit of nervousness drove in now that I know some programs don't rank all applicants. I hope they somehow convey this to the applicants.

Also, for future viewers:

http://www.nrmp.org/res_match/about_res/impact.html

Theres a nice table that shows the above posts quantified by the NRMP.

Well there you go...corroborates what we've been saying. Most programs rank about 50 - 60 people, with average of 10 ranks per position.

 

[DocBlin]

A FM in NJ has 8 slots doing 80 interviews ranking all 80. Most likely go only 20-30 deep.