How many of you have at least 1 C in a pre-req and got accepted?

[Corpsman Up]

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Im a little worried I may end up with a C this quarter in my third general chemistry course and am very discouraged by it. I get A's in physics and bio, but my grades so far in gen chem have been B-, B-,.... ?

How many people here have been ACCEPTED with at least 1 C in a PRE-REQ?

 

[Jrsharp70]

I was not aware that there were 3 gen chems....

I got a C in ochem 1. I am a non-trad with a 28 mcat and 3 years of research for a major medical school.

 

[Daedra22]

I actually had a C in O Chem I as well. It wasn't even mentioned at the interview, though I think doing really well in O Chem II helped.

 

[TigressDO]

I got a C+ in O-Chem II and got in. It was never brought up during any of my interviews either.

 

[Mesican24]

I had some C's in Physics. I actually had multiple C's, In gen chem 2,3 and physics 3

 

[Dr Yiot]

lol I have 2 C's in Bio I and II and I am hoping they wont ask about them although I am trying to retake them next quarter while Im applying. I am applying with them though and I hope that A's in Biochem and Microbio will help me out lol

 

[willen101383]

I got in with:

Cell bio C+
Organic 1,2 C-
Biochem C-
Physics 2 D+

I did a masters after and did insanely well...but there is hope for you my friend...dont worry about 1 C 🙂

 

[tele turnin]

due to my need to play in undergrad i ended up with 3 c's and i got in. ohem 1&2 and biochem. this probably could have been avoided had mountain biking not been so much fun during ochem and the snow not been so great during biochem. taking a week off of classes every now and then for some winter camping to get to the good snow will not be happening in med school.

 

[christina30]

I had a C+ in Organic I and in Physics I.

But my grades for Organic II and Physics II were significantly higher, so that may have looked a little better on my application.

 

[MSmentor018]

I got a bunch, retook a few courses, and took so many extra courses I was able to omit a few on secondaries. don't sweat a C....seriously. there are 3 gen chems?

 

[cardiackid88]

C= C+/C/C-:
at least one C: yes
5<x<12 C's: yes... (highly not encouraged)
- wasn't mentioned in interviews (looked at overall GPA trends)

 

[christina30]

I didn't even retake, or do a masters or post-bacc. I applied with what I got in undergrad and I did fine. 🙂

 

[Corpsman Up]

I was not aware that there were 3 gen chems....

I got a C in ochem 1. I am a non-trad with a 28 mcat and 3 years of research for a major medical school.

Yeah, my school is on the quarter system, so the 1yr sequence of gen chem/physics/bio etc is a 3-course sequence each. It some regards the quarter system sucks, but it makes it much easier to bring up your GPA because you have so many more classes.

I am also a non-trad with a plethora of clinical experience and just got hired on as a research assistant. I know most people say dont worry about 1 C, but looking around the pre-allo forum makes me feel like if I dont have a 3.9 with a 38 MCAT I stand no chance

 

[pmc2025]

Yeah, my school is on the quarter system, so the 1yr sequence of gen chem/physics/bio etc is a 3-course sequence each. It some regards the quarter system sucks, but it makes it much easier to bring up your GPA because you have so many more classes.

I am also a non-trad with a plethora of clinical experience and just got hired on as a research assistant. I know most people say dont worry about 1 C, but looking around the pre-allo forum makes me feel like if I dont have a 3.9 with a 38 MCAT I stand no chance

As we say down here "DING!!!!!!"

I'm really glad the people in here aren't as psychotic as some of the pre-allo people.

 

[Razmatazz]

Some schools state you need at least a C in the pre req courses. Is this strictly applied or do you recommend applying anyways and see what happens?

CCOM and MSU come to mind but there are a few others that say minimum 2.0 in the pre reqs.

 

[Daedra22]

Some schools state you need at least a C in the pre req courses. Is this strictly applied or do you recommend applying anyways and see what happens?

CCOM and MSU come to mind but there are a few others that say minimum 2.0 in the pre reqs.

If you're talking about a C-, each school handles that a little differently. You want to check with individual schools before you apply. However, anything lower than a C- is definitely not considered. They're all very strict about that.

 

[christina30]

Yeah, my school is on the quarter system, so the 1yr sequence of gen chem/physics/bio etc is a 3-course sequence each. It some regards the quarter system sucks, but it makes it much easier to bring up your GPA because you have so many more classes.

I am also a non-trad with a plethora of clinical experience and just got hired on as a research assistant. I know most people say dont worry about 1 C, but looking around the pre-allo forum makes me feel like if I dont have a 3.9 with a 38 MCAT I stand no chance

The pre-allo forum is for psychotic gunner-types - their "standards" are definitely not real world.

HARVARD OR BUST 🙄

 

[Jrsharp70]

The pre-allo forum is for psychotic gunner-types - their "standards" are definitely not real world.

HARVARD OR BUST 🙄

B.S.

I would say the stigma that D.O. school is full of people who can't get into M.D. school is worse. Most of those people in the M.D. forum are very level headed.

This forum is rampant with people who constantly slight D.O. schools by listing poor grades and asking if they can still be doctors. Nobody asks if they SHOULD spend 40k and hope they don't wash out.

and another news flash... Those "gunners" don't blow 20k/year plus living expenses on post-bac classes in liu of doing it right the first time.

True, the allo forum is full of paranoid people or a-holes that just post to brag, but the D.O. forum is full of people that will never get in, yet make it appear as though D.O. programs are a lock with a 3.0 and a 22.

every time you get a C, Jesus kills a kitten, and you increase your chance of rejection, or increase your chance of spending a lot of money to fix your mistakes.

 

[christina30]

B.S.

I would say the stigma that D.O. school is full of people who can't get into M.D. school is worse. Most of those people in the M.D. forum are very level headed.

This forum is rampant with people who constantly slightl D.O. schools by listing poor grades and asking if they can still be doctors. Nobody asks if they SHOULD spend 40k and hope they don't wash out.

and another news flash... Those "gunners" don't blow 20k/year plus living expenses on post-bac classes in liu of doing it right the first time.

True, the allo forum is full of paranoid people or a-holes that just post to brag, but the D.O. forum is full of people that will never get in, yet make it appear as though D.O. programs are a lock with a 3.0 and a 22.

every time you get a C, Jesus kills a kitten, and you increase your chance of rejection, or increase your chance of spending a lot of money to fix your mistakes.

Oh, and you can go to any school website (D.O. or M.D.) and easily find out the requirements. Usually a C or better in every pre-req and an overall GPA requirement.

I agree with you - I dislike the notion that DO students are all MD school rejects. But that idea is equally as, if not more rampant in the pre-allo forum than here, especially considering the "What are my chances?" forum is full of people posting their stats and a bunch of pre-med gunners telling them "Sorry, no, but maybe you'll get into a DO school after you do a post-bacc and retake all your courses."

After being shot down there, they promptly come over to this forum.

 

[randomusername]

Yeah, my school is on the quarter system, so the 1yr sequence of gen chem/physics/bio etc is a 3-course sequence each. It some regards the quarter system sucks, but it makes it much easier to bring up your GPA because you have so many more classes.

I am also a non-trad with a plethora of clinical experience and just got hired on as a research assistant. I know most people say dont worry about 1 C, but looking around the pre-allo forum makes me feel like if I dont have a 3.9 with a 38 MCAT I stand no chance

Assuming the rest of your app is in order, it will probably never even come up.

 

[Jrsharp70]

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[Jrsharp70]

True. But Willen and others make it sound like blowing your undergrad isn't a big deal. It is.... It costs a lot of time and money to fix.

the forum should help people learn from your mistakes, not make light of them, and not underplay that an acceptance for the CHANCE to be a doctor is an accomplishment, and it is only that, a chance. Plenty of people still fail.

don't help smug people devalue your accomplishment (not necessarily aimed at you)

P.S. I had one bad semester. It came up and i had to say why and what I had learned from it.

 

[christina30]

True. But Willen and others make it sound like blowing your undergrad isn't a big deal. It is.... It costs a lot of time and money to fix.

the forum should help people learn from your mistakes, not make light of them, and not underplay that an acceptance for the CHANCE to be a doctor is an accomplishment, and it is only that, a chance. Plenty of people still fail.

don't help smug people devalue your accomplishment (not necessarily aimed at you)

I understand, but I just think it's similarly ******ed to tell them that a C in a class means the end of the road for you altogether (not aimed at you, just a general comment on the attitudes in SDN).

And my earlier posts, at least, was just to attest to the fact that a C won't kill someone's chance at acceptance to a DO school and it's not exactly time for the OP to give up completely on his dream. Hopefully they're legitimately interested in DO, but I guess we can't guarantee that.

 

[Jrsharp70]

I'm with you.

It is funny though, I didn't have SDN, and I just decided I would do what I felt I had to to get in. Nobody had to tell me what I could or couldn't do, because I never asked their opinion, and I didn't apply until I knew I had prepared the best I could.

I joined for insight into year one and the interview process. Also to encourage people and to maybe help people learn from my mistakes. All I really see though is a lot of insecure people that need approval from others to go after what they want, or they are looking for ways around doing the work they know is required for success.

The best part is, this EXACT SAME QUESTION will be asked by someone else tomorrow. Thank baby Jesus I am going overseas for the rest of summer and won't have access to this broken record of a forum.

 

[FutureCTDoc]

Retake your Cs in prereqs. Can you get in with a C certainly, does it decrease your chances certainly. Aim to avoid them in the first place though.

 

[Bayonetwork]

Keep in mind..if you get a C or two you can:
1) do better in the next class. If you get a C in Gen Chem 1...try to ace Gen Chem 2, etc. Likewise, if you did poorly in Ochem, try to do well in Biochem, you get the picture. Its all about the trend.

2) Retake the class IF it really hurts your GPA, mostly for non-science majors or someone with only the required prereqs.
AACOMAS replaces the grade Im pretty sure.
Make SURE to do well the second time around otherwise you are almost worse off.

3) Take upper level classes that show you can master harder science classes. These will do well to offset lower level classes you may not have done well in.

Remember, adcoms are looking for a trend/application that shows you are passionate about the career and willing to work hard for it. This career is hard work, it shouldn't be easy now because it sure wont be in med school or on the job.

Adcoms were on this side of the desk at one point too, so don't think you have to have the perfect app. They know what to look for, its almost like its their job.
Application strength is not and should not be one dimensional.

BTW...were you HMC? NEC 8404?

 

[MLT2MT2DO]

Im a little worried I may end up with a C this quarter in my third general chemistry course and am very discouraged by it. I get A's in physics and bio, but my grades so far in gen chem have been B-, B-,.... ?

How many people here have been ACCEPTED with at least 1 C in a PRE-REQ?

Nobody has ever been accepted to medical school with a "C" on their transcript. Even if you have a "B" on your transcripts the best you can probably hope for is that you make it on a waitlist and that there is ALOT of movement on the waitlist that year.

 

[mspeedwagon]

Hoover: And the lowest grade in the class ...
Ralph: She's going to say my name!
Hover: Lisa Simpson, zero!
Skinner: Lisa, the president of Harvard would like to see you.
Pres.: Nasty business, that zero. Naturally, Harvard's doors are now closed to you, but I'll pass your file along to ... Brown.
Skinner: Mmmm, Brown. Heckuva school. Weren't you at Brown, Otto?
Otto: Yup. Almost got tenure, too.
Lisa: [gasps in horror] No, not Brown, Brown..
-end dream-
Lisa: ...Brown, Brown..
Miss Hoover: Lisa, you're saying Brown an awful lot, are you okay?

The pre-allo forum is for psychotic gunner-types - their "standards" are definitely not real world.

HARVARD OR BUST 🙄

 

[christina30]

Nobody has ever been accepted to medical school with a "C" on their transcript. Even if you have a "B" on your transcripts the best you can probably hope for is that you make it on a waitlist and that there is ALOT of movement on the waitlist that year.

Seriously?

No.

 

[Mesican24]

I believe that was sarcasm

 

[MLT2MT2DO]

Seriously?

Yeah, on top of that I do know someone who got into medical school with an "A-" though. As well as only scoring a "44" on the MCAT. Needless to say he had a perfect application other than that those two things, otherwise it probably would have been the Caribbean for him.

 

[Mesican24]

What an idiot, I cant belive that school let him in with a 44. he's going to fail.

 

[MSmentor018]

What an idiot, I cant belive that school let him in with a 44. he's going to fail.

naaah, with stats like that, it's not failing. he'll be a trendsetter....the MS V

 

[roadrunr]

Nobody has ever been accepted to medical school with a "C" on their transcript. Even if you have a "B" on your transcripts the best you can probably hope for is that you make it on a waitlist and that there is ALOT of movement on the waitlist that year.

not true, a couple of years ago a friend of a friend got accepted into a carribean school with a B on his transcript. dont remember the name of the school, its the one where all the classes are held in a large tent.

 

[ArkansasRanger]

We know that osteopathic schools appear to be more reasonable when it comes to the live v. work balance and thus forgiving of some academic setbacks.

However...

I'd like to know what the borderline is for an applicant to be considered a quality applicant for DO schools, i.e. 3.42 cGPA and 29 MCAT or something. Does anyone have any means or medians? I'm sure the numbers out there, but I haven't seen it after doing a little search.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

We know that osteopathic schools appear to be more reasonable when it comes to the live v. work balance and thus forgiving of some academic setbacks.

However...

I'd like to know what the borderline is for an applicant to be considered a quality applicant for DO schools, i.e. 3.42 cGPA and 29 MCAT or something. Does anyone have any means or medians? I'm sure the numbers out there, but I haven't seen it after doing a little search.

What is competitive really? I think for DO schools if you've got a 3.5 Cgpa/ 3.3Sgpa and 28 on the mcat. You can consider yourself 'competitive'. But I mean really stats play only so much a role.
I mean i've seen on this site schools like Mayo take people with a 3.6/30 biology major while they reject someone with a 3.8/34.
So i'd say relatively, that competitiveness is more related to how many schools your applying too. If you apply to 10 schools with a 3.8/34 your chances of getting accepted are probably statistically the same as someone with a 3.6/30 applying to 20 schools.
... Well i've gotten ahead of myself.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

B.S.

I would say the stigma that D.O. school is full of people who can't get into M.D. school is worse. Most of those people in the M.D. forum are very level headed.

This forum is rampant with people who constantly slight D.O. schools by listing poor grades and asking if they can still be doctors. Nobody asks if they SHOULD spend 40k and hope they don't wash out.

and another news flash... Those "gunners" don't blow 20k/year plus living expenses on post-bac classes in liu of doing it right the first time.

True, the allo forum is full of paranoid people or a-holes that just post to brag, but the D.O. forum is full of people that will never get in, yet make it appear as though D.O. programs are a lock with a 3.0 and a 22.

every time you get a C, Jesus kills a kitten, and you increase your chance of rejection, or increase your chance of spending a lot of money to fix your mistakes.

Well unfortunately most people do see DO schools as a back up or safety schools. Because of this DO schools are associated with lower requirements for admission. I'll admit comparing a DO school to MD school and there is a difference. 3.6/30 v.s 3.45*/26. (* remember that DO schools replace grades, so meaning that the average DO students gpa is significantly lower then the average MD student whom does not have the advantage of re-taking.)
But regardless, care about yourself not about others. If they believe truly that they can get in with a 3.0/22 well good for them. Reality will eventually catch up with them.
But in the end result, welcome to US medical school competition. Where 50% of us are doing it for either because our parents want us to or because we want money. 😀
Sigh sometimes posts like these make me think I should get a PhD and not be considered a greedy pre-medical goblin.

 

[ArkansasRanger]

I know you need a complete package. I just wondered what a "decent" set of numbers would be.


For me, I don't/won't have a 3.5 cGPA, but my science will be a lot higher than 3.3. As far as MCAT goes who knows.

 

[Jrsharp70]

not true, a couple of years ago a friend of a friend got accepted into a carribean school with a B on his transcript. dont remember the name of the school, its the one where all the classes are held in a large tent.

Carribean School of Chainsaw Surgery. I had a friend go there with a B in ochem, but he couldn't calculate the fuel/oil mix ratio and washed out.

joking aside, the only real cutoff is the minimum requirements each school chooses. After that it depends on the strength of that year's applicants. After that, it depends on how many times jesus saw you touching yourself under the covers. (I always waited until his attention was diverted by his Father sending natural disasters to kill brown people/californians/trailer park residents)

 

[christina30]

Yeah, on top of that I do know someone who got into medical school with an "A-" though. As well as only scoring a "44" on the MCAT. Needless to say he had a perfect application other than that those two things, otherwise it probably would have been the Caribbean for him.

44? *scoff* i have a 5.0 gpa

 

[Corpsman Up]

Nobody has ever been accepted to medical school with a "C" on their transcript. Even if you have a "B" on your transcripts the best you can probably hope for is that you make it on a waitlist and that there is ALOT of movement on the waitlist that year.

Thanks a bunch. Your sarcasm is greatly appreciated. I'm jealous that you have so much free time on your hands that you can just surf the forums and leave useless feedback

 

[MLT2MT2DO]

Thanks a bunch. Your sarcasm is greatly appreciated. I'm jealous that you have so much free time on your hands that you can just surf the forums and leave useless feedback

You sure you aren't jealous at my sense of humor, seing as you seem to lack one.

If having a single "C" on ones transcript is going to keep them from getting into a school then I'm in trouble.

You really should lighten up or there is a decent chance you'll end up having a stroke before making it through pre-med.

 

[Cybii]

Im a little worried I may end up with a C this quarter in my third general chemistry course and am very discouraged by it. I get A's in physics and bio, but my grades so far in gen chem have been B-, B-,.... ?

How many people here have been ACCEPTED with at least 1 C in a PRE-REQ?

I was in a similar situation for my undergrad: chemistry was my gpa's enemy. Always got B's (B in gen chem, B+ orgo I, B- analytical chem) and my first and only C (C+ in orgo II). But like you I received A's in all my physics and [almost all] of my bio courses. Still got into a med school. It's not the end of the world. 👍

 

[mportala]

I got a C in Physics I and Ochem I. I think doing better in the next semester helps but med school adcoms have other stuff to look at too.

🙂

 

[RTaspiringDO]

Hahahah

as we say down here "ding!!!!!!"

i'm really glad the people in here aren't as psychotic as some of the pre-allo people.

 

[doublelayer]

Don't let one grade break you!! I got in multiple MDPhD/MSTP with one C in Bio and a low 30 MCAT!

But I also have some damn baller lab works with 3 publications though...

 

[mspeedwagon]

I guess there are no Simpsons fans on here. I was expecting someone to recall this episode.

Hoover: And the lowest grade in the class ...
Ralph: She's going to say my name!
Hover: Lisa Simpson, zero!
Skinner: Lisa, the president of Harvard would like to see you.
Pres.: Nasty business, that zero. Naturally, Harvard's doors are now closed to you, but I'll pass your file along to ... Brown.
Skinner: Mmmm, Brown. Heckuva school. Weren't you at Brown, Otto?
Otto: Yup. Almost got tenure, too.
Lisa: [gasps in horror] No, not Brown, Brown..
-end dream-
Lisa: ...Brown, Brown..
Miss Hoover: Lisa, you're saying Brown an awful lot, are you okay?

 

[Tekar]

C in second semester o-chem.. slept through a lot of it since I worked nights around it.

non-trad 3.45 and a 24S.

 

[medschl hpeful]

I had some C's in Physics. I actually had multiple C's, In gen chem 2,3 and physics 3

"SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!!!!!" AND YOU GOT IN?????? Wow....... I am happy for you. I am terrified to show my eight credit B in nursing 101. that B may be worse though???? wow........
I was just so bored with the class. it was more touchy feely stuff, not so much the science that i am used to. i learned a big lesson though!!! don't get no more B's.
i quite honestly need and love to hear that you don't have to be perfect.
Thanks.😉 for sharing.

 

[DbDan]

i'm not in, I'm waitlisted but I at least got a shot with
Physics 1a,b - C,C+
G.Chem 20a,b - C,C (retook a and got an A over summer but they didn't re-calculate with new grade)
O. Chem 30a,b,c - C,C+,C+
Bio 1,2 - C, C- (retaking 2 now w/ prospects of an A, 3 and 4 were A-, A+)

There are alot of other things to consider as well though, were/are you a science major? Will you have a number of upper division bio/chem courses that you can do well in to demonstrate mastery of the material? I got a good GPA my last 2 years in which I was a physiology major so I obviously understood the anatomy material. There are other considerations, now for allopathic schools you may be looking at a different animal. Luckily DOs also allow you to retake, something I'm going to be fully taking advantage of if one of my waitlists doesn't pan out in the next month.