How much can a family practitioner make doing botox and liposuction?

[futuredoctor99]

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as well as creating your own service in which the customers pay you a set amount of money per month for unlimited basic service?

 

[jojoshabadoo]

a ****in million dollars, will you shut the **** up now

 

[vickpick]

well, that would depend on what part of the country you're living in, and what sort of financial plan you have came with for the "unlimited service." Also, Are you going to work for someone, or own a clinic?

 

[chiz2kul]

LOL at this topic..
How do pple even think of asking stuff like that?

 

[anoncurious]

I am pretty sure that Family docs can't do liposuction. As for botox..unless you are charging significantly lower than plastic surgeons or dermatologists, why would anyone go to a family doc for this versus someone who is more qualified to manage the post-treatment side effects/etc. It's all about marketability, which goes back to your initial question--physicians typically have a 'floor' of 100K or so, but if you have a good business sense, the right opportunities and a lot of luck, you can make millions.

P.S. getting paid a certain amount for unlimited basic service is what insurance companies do..

..and now follows hundreds of posts about doctor's salaries..

 

[Boundtofail]

P.S. getting paid a certain amount for unlimited basic service is what insurance companies do..

..and now follows hundreds of posts about doctor's salaries..

tsk, tsk. getting paid a certain amount for unlimited basic service is what insurance companies do would imply that they are in some ways altruistic. Since there is no free lunch in a capitalistic world, the above statement cannot be true. If you were to get so call the unlimited basic services, the most likely situation is your health insurance will drop you like it's hot.

 

[SouthernSurgeon]

I am pretty sure that Family docs can't do liposuction. As for botox..unless you are charging significantly lower than plastic surgeons or dermatologists, why would anyone go to a family doc for this versus someone who is more qualified to manage the post-treatment side effects/etc. It's all about marketability...

Exactly...even if a family practice doc got trained in lipo (there are some surg fellowships after FP residency, but they are usually for basic stuff, not cosmetics), and even if they found a hospital that would give them privileges to do this, they would have a heck of a time convincing patients that they were better off in their hands than in the hands of the plastic surgeon down the street.

 

[xanthomondo]

If your patients need access to unlimited liposuction you may want to refer them to a shrink

 

[amakhosidlo]

A. Read the fine print of your insurance policies. It's not an unlimited service, far from it.

B. FP's CAN do Botox, Lipo, and whatever else a patient wants him or her to do for them. They just won't be board certified in the 'parent field' of the procedure (derm, plastics). Some (most) people think that's sketchy, others have no idea what board certification is, and just want their crow'd feet/love
handles gone.

C. Doing things you're not qualified for to make a quick buck is a GREAT way to lose everything REALLY fast.

 

[Law2Doc]

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B. FP's CAN do Botox, Lipo, and whatever else a patient wants him or her to do for them. They just won't be board certified in the 'parent field' of the procedure (derm, plastics). Some (most) people think that's sketchy, others have no idea what board certification is, and just want their crow'd feet/love
handles gone. ...

No insurance company is going to insure a FP to do liposuction. It's not a minor procedure -- people die from this if done wrong. So no, you won't be able to do that as a FP, regardless of your certification. Botox you probably can do. But you mostly see plastic surgeons doing that field, along with hair transplant and other cosmetics. As a non-plastic surgeon you probably can't charge that much and in this economy those fields are dropping off.

 

[amakhosidlo]

NM, didn't read. Malpractice runs on a procedure-by-procedure basis? (i.e lower rate for doc A that doesn't do procedure X than doc B that does)

 

[Law2Doc]

NM, didn't read. Malpractice runs on a procedure-by-procedure basis? (i.e lower rate for doc A that doesn't do procedure X than doc B that does)

Sort of. It's mostly by kind/scope of practice. For example a FP will pay significantly higher medmal insurance premiums if s/he delivers babies, than s/he would if s/he only dealt with run of the mill adult primary care needs. And an insurer won't cover certain procedures by folks not certified to do them. So lots of luck simply deciding you want to do liposuction. Might as well decide you are going to do open heart surgery while you are at it. Because either way, no insurer is going to let you have coverage when you assume the risks of surgery that no accrediting body has agreed you are qualified to do. It's an uncovered act under your policy and if you screw up, you end up never working again and broke and bankrupt This is a big reason the turf war in medicine is relatively modest -- you aren't going to do things outside of your field because you aren't qualified to do it, and so nobody is going to insure it.

 

[Slack3r]

You can take several weekend courses to become "certified" to do Botox, but I doubt many people would get it from their FP. At least depending on the area. Plastics, derm, ENT, and OMS are all capable of doing Botox w/o needing additional training for it (I believe).

 

[Mattabet]

as well as creating your own service in which the customers pay you a set amount of money per month for unlimited basic service?

This is so dumb. It'd make way more sense to be an Ob/Gyn who does LASIK and aortic valve replacements, as well as charging people a hefty fee to come and save their lives at a moments notice wherever they find themselves in peril. You could call it the "Spiderman Plan".

 

[metalgearHMN]

...It's an uncovered act under your policy and if you screw up, you end up never working again and broke and bankrupt This is a big reason the turf war in medicine is relatively modest -- you aren't going to do things outside of your field because you aren't qualified to do it, and so nobody is going to insure it.

Well there are turf wars between related fields like cardiologists and cardiothoracic surgeons, but are they doing each other's procedures/job, or treating people with different modalities?

 

[lrkoehle]

I am pretty sure I remember a story a few years back about an IM doc in the Phoenix area who had three patients during liposuction procedures, so apparently some docs will try it. Now I am not saying he was insured to do it, but he probably was inexpensive and his patients were ignorant of his total lack of qualifications. I think he left the country.

 

[witness23]

hey guys,

how much can I make prescribing anabolic steroids and HGH to athl..., I mean, by helping people deal with the stresses of aging with hormone treatment ? Do I really need to go to medical school for this? All I need is a paper and a pen right?

 

[xanthomondo]

hey guys,

how much can I make prescribing anabolic steroids and HGH to athl..., I mean, by helping people deal with the stresses of aging with hormone treatment ? Do I really need to go to medical school for this? All I need is a paper and a pen right?

I believe the scripts were worth ~$50 a shot. Seems a little low though 👎

 

[Anita817]

Lipo and BOTOX are not comparable procedures, but if the OP is asking whether an FP has ever been know to branch into the world of aesthics, yes, many have. In fact there are 2 Medical spas in my town opened by FPs who apparently did a couple electives in specific aesthetic derm procedures and decided they could make more money in that business than in FP.