How much does it cost to Deliver a baby?

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I've been reading a few threads on how most graduating residents have to do a lot of deliveries in order to build up a practice financially because most of the money in OBGYN is to be made on the OB side.

My question, if anyone knows, is how much does an OB make by doing a regular delivery?

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I don't think money is the reason recent graduates do a lot of OB. I think it's because when you join a practice, you are the lowest man on the totem pole and people don't like OB (hours, litigation). Eventually many phase OB out and focus on gyn, but as far as I understand it, it's hard to do that just coming out. A "dues" thing, I suppose.

As for your actual question, I have no idea how much you get for delivering a baby. I imagine not a ton. As far as I understand it, most OB visits are included under a blanket payment. So monthly visits and then weekly visits, etc, then all those visits to L&D because they think they're in labor but aren't, are covered under one blanket payment under "pregnancy". But that might just be how public assistance programs work in my state.
 
Wednesday said:
I don't think money is the reason recent graduates do a lot of OB. I think it's because when you join a practice, you are the lowest man on the totem pole and people don't like OB (hours, litigation). Eventually many phase OB out and focus on gyn, but as far as I understand it, it's hard to do that just coming out. A "dues" thing, I suppose.

As for your actual question, I have no idea how much you get for delivering a baby. I imagine not a ton. As far as I understand it, most OB visits are included under a blanket payment. So monthly visits and then weekly visits, etc, then all those visits to L&D because they think they're in labor but aren't, are covered under one blanket payment under "pregnancy". But that might just be how public assistance programs work in my state.

Thanks for the info!
 
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When I delivered my daughter nearly 2 years ago, I got a "bill" from my OB/Gyn before insurance stepped up. It was around $2800 - $3000, if I remember correctly. I believe that covered all prenatal visits and the vaginal birth, kind of a package deal. C/S are probably more, I guess. Also remember that insurance usually negotiates a lower payment, and that the above figure doesn't cover the hospital costs, epidural, etc.
 
Reimbursement for a delivery is dependent on geographic region, insurance, and mode of delivery. C-sections get more than a vaginal delivery. Most new physicians do a ton of OB b/c that's how they get their new patients as this is when most women start to see an OB. A relationship is then made and they follow up after they are done with their childbearing to undergoe hysterectomies/prolapse/incontinence/hormonal issues. Most women who stay in the same area see usually continue to see the same OB as it fosters continuity/comfort.
 
Pinki said:
When I delivered my daughter nearly 2 years ago, I got a "bill" from my OB/Gyn before insurance stepped up. It was around $2800 - $3000, if I remember correctly. I believe that covered all prenatal visits and the vaginal birth, kind of a package deal. C/S are probably more, I guess. Also remember that insurance usually negotiates a lower payment, and that the above figure doesn't cover the hospital costs, epidural, etc.

This is about right. I am on the board of small business that provides health insurance for our employees. When we were lookin at OB coverages the insurance companies were absolutely not competitive. It would have cost us about $900/year/female employee for "reproductive health/maternity" coverage. As our board is philosophically opposed to paying for voluntary terminations, and "reproductive health" invariably included VT, we were left with a choice of no maternity coverage at all or self-insuring. Most of our female employees are of reproductive age. We figured that it would be cheaper to pay up front costs than buy insurance for everyone.

We called several ob's in the area and told them our plan. We wanted to know what it would cost to cover an uncomplicated pregnancy start to finish with NSVD/term. The prices were in that range. What was surprising to us was how difficult it was to actually pay the ob's.

We told our employees to see if the obs would bill the company directly for the services. Most agreed and then started asking us for claim forms, and all manner of paperwork. We told 'em we don't do doctoring and they don't do manufacturing. If they thought a service was medically justified, send us a bill and we'd pay it on our next check writing schedule. Just don't try to tell us how to run our production schedules.

After three pregnancies, they finally got it. We told 'em we trust their medical judgement, please don't rip us off. They all liked the idea that a.) we didn't want E&M codes, CPT codes, service justification or any other paper, b.) we just wanted to know how much they wanted to be paid and c.) we generally paid the bill within the week of getting it. One guy reduced his fee. He told me, you guys pay more than the insurance company, you don't cost anything to us to get paid and you pay within a week. One of our HMOs takes 5-6 months to pay, they want $500 worth of paperwork and they always find something wrong with it and want pre-approval on nearly everything.

The company ended up getting the exact coverages it needed. We do pay for a surgical policy that covers anesthesia, emergent/elective (rpt)/ indicated c-sections. Our major medical policy covers most but not all of the services required of high risk pregnancy, so if we had one of these, we'd be dinged, but we're willing to take that chance.

Maybe MSA/HSAs will help make everything better. Fast payment, getting multi-million dollar insurance executives siphoning off health care dollars out of the loop, better compensation for docs. It's time to make the patient the first party payer with full say in her care, not the fifth party payer who goes to and does what somebody else tells her. Musings for a slow call day.
 
There is the global fee, which includes all pre-natal visits, hospital stays for complications,(one time only) and the delivery, c-sections are only about 200-300 $ difference.

At the end of the day, the range is about $2500- $4000 (low to high) depending on geography.

matt
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3dtp said:
This is about right. I am on the board of small business that provides health insurance for our employees. When we were lookin at OB coverages the insurance companies were absolutely not competitive. It would have cost us about $900/year/female employee for "reproductive health/maternity" coverage. As our board is philosophically opposed to paying for voluntary terminations, and "reproductive health" invariably included VT, we were left with a choice of no maternity coverage at all or self-insuring. Most of our female employees are of reproductive age. We figured that it would be cheaper to pay up front costs than buy insurance for everyone.

We called several ob's in the area and told them our plan. We wanted to know what it would cost to cover an uncomplicated pregnancy start to finish with NSVD/term. The prices were in that range. What was surprising to us was how difficult it was to actually pay the ob's.

We told our employees to see if the obs would bill the company directly for the services. Most agreed and then started asking us for claim forms, and all manner of paperwork. We told 'em we don't do doctoring and they don't do manufacturing. If they thought a service was medically justified, send us a bill and we'd pay it on our next check writing schedule. Just don't try to tell us how to run our production schedules.

After three pregnancies, they finally got it. We told 'em we trust their medical judgement, please don't rip us off. They all liked the idea that a.) we didn't want E&M codes, CPT codes, service justification or any other paper, b.) we just wanted to know how much they wanted to be paid and c.) we generally paid the bill within the week of getting it. One guy reduced his fee. He told me, you guys pay more than the insurance company, you don't cost anything to us to get paid and you pay within a week. One of our HMOs takes 5-6 months to pay, they want $500 worth of paperwork and they always find something wrong with it and want pre-approval on nearly everything.

The company ended up getting the exact coverages it needed. We do pay for a surgical policy that covers anesthesia, emergent/elective (rpt)/ indicated c-sections. Our major medical policy covers most but not all of the services required of high risk pregnancy, so if we had one of these, we'd be dinged, but we're willing to take that chance.

Maybe MSA/HSAs will help make everything better. Fast payment, getting multi-million dollar insurance executives siphoning off health care dollars out of the loop, better compensation for docs. It's time to make the patient the first party payer with full say in her care, not the fifth party payer who goes to and does what somebody else tells her. Musings for a slow call day.
Applause!
 
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