how much free time do you have during your first two years?

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judging from all the posts ive seen people seem to be miserable and studying 20 hours a day and i cant imagine that... how much free time do you have? we do a traditional block schedule for the 1st year and i can solidly say that i have at least 1-2 hours of free time every night, every fri/sat/sun night off and study about 6 hours/day on sat and sun, sometimes 7-8 if i really need to.. does anyone else have this experience? or does everyone study nonstop and have nos ocial life and lose contact with their friends and family like a lot of hte posts ive seen?
this also seems to be the case from most of the people at my school, so its not just me
also, we have a lot of classes in our intro to clinincal medicine class (year round) about topics not stressed or even on the boards but that would help us become abetter doctor like violence, abuse, racism, interprofessional care, and other random topics
just curious to see what eveyrone eelse is like out there
 
I'm with you. Doing fine with lots of free time.
 
I had so much free time first and second year that I shoulda got a part-time job. However, it was all the small group crap at irregular intervals in the afternoon that prevented it.
 
yeah, there are two phases of med school right now for me (pre-clinical).

1. time after exam week: about three weeks of straight chilling... maybe go to class, maybe skip and go to the mountains or just sit home; maybe study, maybe not. Go out 4+ nights a week, don't study on weekends. Very relaxing, TOO MUCH free time honestly but I try to make the best of it. If it weren't for phase two I would definitely get a job..

2. time before exam week: about a week and a half before exams something clicks and I start studying like mad. it sucks cause I feel it coming and I know that my head is gonna be in the "on" position for like two and a half weeks, but it happens and basically all I do is study.

Even during exams, it's not a bad life though.. I mean, how can you honestly complain, "All I do is sit around all day and study how freaking amazing people are and all the crazy stuff we know about them. WAAH WAAH.." like who cares man, med school is an amazing opportunity and compared to a lot of other stuff it's NOT THAT HARD (MS1 at least). We have our last exams tomorrow so I've been studying a good 10 or so hours a day for two weeks but I've learned a ton of stuff and it's cool to sit and think about (if you're into that sort of thing). Then tomorrow exams will be over, I'll switch "off" and CHILL go to the beach, hangout, etc. 😀
 
yeah, there are two phases of med school right now for me (pre-clinical).

1. time after exam week: about three weeks of straight chilling... maybe go to class, maybe skip and go to the mountains or just sit home; maybe study, maybe not. Go out 4+ nights a week, don't study on weekends. Very relaxing, TOO MUCH free time honestly but I try to make the best of it. If it weren't for phase two I would definitely get a job..

2. time before exam week: about a week and a half before exams something clicks and I start studying like mad. it sucks cause I feel it coming and I know that my head is gonna be in the "on" position for like two and a half weeks, but it happens and basically all I do is study.

Even during exams, it's not a bad life though.. I mean, how can you honestly complain, "All I do is sit around all day and study how freaking amazing people are and all the crazy stuff we know about them. WAAH WAAH.." like who cares man, med school is an amazing opportunity and compared to a lot of other stuff it's NOT THAT HARD (MS1 at least). We have our last exams tomorrow so I've been studying a good 10 or so hours a day for two weeks but I've learned a ton of stuff and it's cool to sit and think about (if you're into that sort of thing). Then tomorrow exams will be over, I'll switch "off" and CHILL go to the beach, hangout, etc. 😀

👍Exactly. Right now my schedule is tight like hell cos I'm having an exam soon. After that, I will have all the time...
 
You first find out your definition of success in med school and go from there. Any time you're not using to maintain or reach the level of success you're happy with is free time. Don't concern yourself with other people's study schedule. They have their own ideas of what success means and whether or not happiness/free time is a part of it.
 
Don't go to class, and you'll have a lot of free time. Seriously, those were two great years--get up whenever and do whatever I wanted.
 
I rarely study past 7pm and weekends vary from about 2-8hrs depending on if there's a test the following week or not. As was said above, lecture is overrated if you can get video or audio of them. Make your study time efficient years 1 and 2 and you'll have lots of free time to relax, go to the gym, sleep, whatever.
 
I am a second year. I am usually out and about on Friday and Saturday nights, unless there is exam on Monday. I go to alot of concerts and love the music scene in the large eastern city where I attend school. I like to dance. I work out 5 times per week and keep fit. I have balance in my life and it keeps me in good spirits and relaxed. Academically, I am doing well. Third year will be different, much less control over my schedule, but so far, so good.
 
From these posts it sounds like some of you study significantly less than I do for my undergrad classes...but admittedly I am quite neurotic about studying. How much are you all studying compared to how much you did as an ug?
 
I had so much free time first and second year that I shoulda got a part-time job.

Haha, agreed. I actually did get a part time job at a theatre, and I'm also working on a documentary at the moment.

In my opinion, how much time you have in medical school depends on 3 things:

1) What your background is like. If you have a very strong background in biochemistry, neuroscience, etc. much of the medical school material will be a repeat of what you already know. There have been some blocks in medical school where I haven't studied at all because it was ALL repeated material from what I learned in undergrad or grad school. Other classes, I needed to study much more because I didn't have the same background.

2) How much you think you have to study. If you are a person who NEEDS honors and absolutely doesn't think they can get honors without studying 10 hours/day, then you will study 10 hours/day. If you are a person who thinks they can learn everything they need by studying only on weekends, you will study only on weekends. Keep in mind that how much you study doesn't always determine your grade. I know people who study for hours everyday and barely pass, and I know people who honor courses by only putting in 1-2 days per test. It depends on what you already know, and how effective you are at learning what you don't know. Which brings me to...

3) How well you study. There are some people who just learn more efficiently than others. Those people can learn more in one day of studying than some people can in a week of studying. You'll know which camp you fall into.

For me, I study more PER EXAM than I did in undergrad, but less overall because my school only teaches one class at a time. I study about the same amount as I did in grad school.
 
Amount of studying is so much more than undergrad for me. Not even a contest.

First year wasn't too bad. My school had cumulative 2nd year finals in Path and Pharm (classes started in April and the final was the following March.) That combined with Step 1 made the 2nd part of 2nd year pretty hellish.
 
It depends on what you already know
This is so true. I should have taken a couple more Science classes like immunology and Pharmacology during the undergrad. My school actually offered those as UD electives.
 
I just have a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact that you wouldn't need to attend class. It's insane.
 
I just have a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact that you wouldn't need to attend class. It's insane.

If your classes are video recorded, don't go to class unless it is required. Stream them from home at a faster speed (1.2-1.5) to save you self time.
 
From these posts it sounds like some of you study significantly less than I do for my undergrad classes...but admittedly I am quite neurotic about studying. How much are you all studying compared to how much you did as an ug?

It's safe to say I studied more in the first semester of med school than I did in four years of undergrad... but that's cause I had a system in undergrad of going to every class, paying attention, etc, then not studying again until the night before the exam. This worked for pretty much every class; obviously I hit o-chem/physics harder than music history, but still the system worked. No way would it work in med school...
 
First semester was a system shock-- I failed one exam and did not do as well as I wanted on one other on our first round of three exams. That sent me into a study all the time mode, which was depressing and really hard to handle. It took some real adjusting to pick up on how to approach med school studying.

Since the end of that semester, though, I have been studying very little. It's almost like college again! For a short block before Christmas break I generally only studied 1-2 nights a week (exam each week, just studied a day or two before). This semester I have kept up with the material in class with minimal studying out of class (maybe average 1-2 hours a day with six or so hours Sunday) and our first round of exams is coming up in a week. Any quizzes etc. we have taken leading up to these exams I have averaged around a 90 on. I am just cracking down now and mastering the details before I move in for the exam, then I literally get a week off (spring break 1)!

Med school takes some getting used to, but once you do it really doesn't seem as bad as people would have you believe.
 
From these posts it sounds like some of you study significantly less than I do for my undergrad classes...but admittedly I am quite neurotic about studying. How much are you all studying compared to how much you did as an ug?

The real question is how many of these students are in the top 10-25% of their class. In college, you have to fight to get over 93% to avoid an A-. In medschool, it seems a lot of students have the P=MD attitude. I would argue that it takes a lot less work to be at the bottom 30% of the class than at the top 25%.
 
The real question is how many of these students are in the top 10-25% of their class. In college, you have to fight to get over 93% to avoid an A-. In medschool, it seems a lot of students have the P=MD attitude. I would argue that it takes a lot less work to be at the bottom 30% of the class than at the top 25%.


You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. When you have the median in med school classes ranging from 85-90, you are working damn hard whether you're in the top 25% or bottom 30%. Nobody in med school is a slacker. You'll see that when you actually start medical school.
 
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. When you have the median in med school classes ranging from 85-90, you are working damn hard whether you're in the top 25% or bottom 30%. Nobody in med school is a slacker. You'll see that when you actually start medical school.
I don't think you understood what I wrote. I said nothing about the easiness of just passing a class or slacking off. Your post almost suggests that honoring a course is as easy as just barely passing it, which is not the case.
 
I don't think you understood what I wrote. I said nothing about the easiness of just passing a class or slacking off. Your post almost suggests that honoring a course is as easy as just barely passing it, which is not the case.

And you would know this how? I personally know people who are working their tails off, studying 12+ hours a day, and barely passing. On the other hand, I know people who put in 2-3 hours a day, don't go to class and are honoring every subject. You'll see it when you actually start school.
 
The real question is how many of these students are in the top 10-25% of their class. In college, you have to fight to get over 93% to avoid an A-. In medschool, it seems a lot of students have the P=MD attitude. I would argue that it takes a lot less work to be at the bottom 30% of the class than at the top 25%.

That's probably part of it, but you'll be surprised. You'll see people in the library for hours, with all their flashcards, and outlines, and notes. And I'm not talking about social studiers, jawing to eachother, I'm talking about people hitting the books.

You'll see those people struggling to pass. And then you realize that some of the guys or gals who barely shows up to class, cracks jokes during lab, is never seen studying are honoring every single class.

That's not to say every hard worker is struggling and every slacker is acing. There are a lot of goof offs who barely pass and hard workers who fly high, absolutely. But grades in med school are not just a function of time studying.
 
That's probably part of it, but you'll be surprised. You'll see people in the library for hours, with all their flashcards, and outlines, and notes. And I'm not talking about social studiers, jawing to eachother, I'm talking about people hitting the books.

You'll see those people struggling to pass. And then you realize that some of the guys or gals who barely shows up to class, cracks jokes during lab, is never seen studying are honoring every single class.

That's not to say every hard worker is struggling and every slacker is acing. There are a lot of goof offs who barely pass and hard workers who fly high, absolutely. But grades in med school are not just a function of time studying.

I completely agree with you. For some of us it takes much shorter to study something. But what I am saying is that if you take an individual who studies x number of hours to just pass a course, isn't it logical to assume that the same individual must study x+y number of hours to honor the course? I would definitely think so, unless honoring a course has only to do with luck. Now y may equal 5 hours/week extra for some people or 20/hours a week extra for others (lets say those closer to the bottom of the class). So the general premise is that it takes longer to study to get an A+ than to get a B-. If that does not hold for medical school, I'd be interested to know why.
 
I completely agree with you. For some of us it takes much shorter to study something. But what I am saying is that if you take an individual who studies x number of hours to just pass a course, isn't it logical to assume that the same individual must study x+y number of hours to honor the course? I would definitely think so, unless honoring a course has only to do with luck. Now y may equal 5 hours/week extra for some people or 20/hours a week extra for others (lets say those closer to the bottom of the class). So the general premise is that it takes longer to study to get an A+ than to get a B-. If that does not hold for medical school, I'd be interested to know why.

I don't really think anyone's arguing that, on an individual basis, the more you study the better you do. The argument is simply that as a whole, the people who study the most aren't necessarily going to do the best and the people who study the least aren't necessarily going to do the worst. Just like in undergrad, you have people with a wide range of study habits receiving scores all across the board. Nothing revolutionary.
 
I'm surprised there aren't more people here saying "Free time? What are you talking about? This is medical school." Not that I don't love the comments I'm reading here.

My goal is to avg 40 hours a week with everything "medical school" - lectures I choose to go to, labs, studying, everything. Avg meaning some weeks more, some weeks less. Doable?
 
I'm surprised there aren't more people here saying "Free time? What are you talking about? This is medical school." Not that I don't love the comments I'm reading here.

My goal is to avg 40 hours a week with everything "medical school" - lectures I choose to go to, labs, studying, everything. Avg meaning some weeks more, some weeks less. Doable?

First year was about 20 hrs a week for me, this year is about 60.
Thats because I actually want to sound like I know what I am talking about
come 3rd year. Yes, I am one of those "social studiers" in the library. If you
count eating lunch, talking to people, breaks, then 40 hours sounds
reasonable. In reality, you probably dont need more than 20 hours
pure studying first year and 30 hours pure studying 2nd year to do well.
 
How do you skip classes? Even if the stuff is available online, wouldn't going to the class just be another opportunity for you to soak in the material?
 
Sure. But I personally skip classes where I feel I won't have anything extra to gain from sitting in lecture. Why go through the trouble of getting to class when I have the convenience of learning in my PJs? That's not to say one can't wear PJs in class but you get the idea.
 
How do you skip classes? Even if the stuff is available online, wouldn't going to the class just be another opportunity for you to soak in the material?

Skipping class is more efficient. Why sit in a 50 minute lecture when I can go through the information on my own in half that time? So I can cover the material for two lectures in the time I would have wasted sitting in one lecture.
 
How much free time one has in medical school depends on the individual and effective study methods. I tended to pick and choose the classes that I attended because I could cover the material more efficiently on my own. This doesn't work for everyone.

I can tell you that sitting in a lecture is not learning much. You are passively listening to a lecturer. The actual learning takes place when you get the material into your long-term learning. For me, the learning was when I sat down to organize and assimilate the material. Listening to a lecturer was pretty low-yield for me in terms of acquisition of knowledge or of assimilation.

Each person finds a way to get the material mastered. Some are more efficient than others. If you are not a particularly efficient student, then you are going to have less "free time". As long as you get the material mastered it actually doesn't matter much if you don't have hours to "chill".

You are paying for the experience of medical school and expanding your knowledge base. How you do that is largely up to you. It's your career and your dollar. In the end, you either get it or you don't. You have essentially one shot at learning what you need to be an excellent physician. Most people get the job done without turning into hermits.
 
How do you skip classes? Even if the stuff is available online, wouldn't going to the class just be another opportunity for you to soak in the material?
Not unless your learning style requires you to experience the lecture live. I'm a very old non-traditional medical student and not going to class to me seemed like somehow slacking-off. It isn't.

If your medical school is anything like mine, there are on-line videos of all of the lectures, complete with the live video recording as well as the PowerPoint slides. If you understand the lecture, you can speed it up and enjoy your professor sounding like Minnie Mouse. If you DON'T understand the lecture, you can listen - stop, rewind - listen again. If you've read the material and have no problems understanding it, you may skip the lecture entirely. If the professor announces something that you especially need to read or something else you have to do - if you have a good notes service, it'll be there.

So, when you add up all the resources you have - video reproduction, PowerPoint files, and notes service - getting dressed and commuting to campus wastes a lot of valuable time. Most schools have some required small groups and that's when I used to catch-up with everyone socially - but, other than that, I was a committed home-schooler by my second year.
 
From these posts it sounds like some of you study significantly less than I do for my undergrad classes...but admittedly I am quite neurotic about studying. How much are you all studying compared to how much you did as an ug?

Don't fall into the trap of comparing med school to undergrad. It's a very different world, and not an apples and apples comparison. A lot of what works in undergrad doesn't work in med school. Maybe none of it will. You will very likely have to throw out much of what you think you know about studying, and adopt different techniques, trial and error style, until you hit on gold. That may translate to more hours studying, or simply more effective hours. Or both. But it's kind of like comparing quarterbacking Pop Warner football to an NFL team -- you go through a lot of the same motions, but the pace is very different and they hit a lot harder.

Most people work a lot harder in med school than undergrad. In retrospect, they will still have a lot of free time compared to the clinical years and residency. You have time to work out, to grab meals with friends, maybe an hour to goof off or watch TV most nights. But you have nothing like the free time you had in undergrad in MOST cases.

A lot of that is because in med school you cannot cram. So if you aren't pre-reading and reviewing daily, you find yourself in too much of a hole to get out of -- there is simply too much material to try and cram study for it the week before the exam. So you will be studying every day just to keep pace. And weekends are the only days you aren't getting new material, so most people use much of them to get a handle on the prior week's stuff.

I'd say most med students use some variation of the 4-6 times through the material approach -- consisting of pre-reading, attending/watching lectures, reviewing (nightly), re-reviewing and organizing (on weekends) and then "studying" for the exam for each test. This multiple pass approach makes you more likely to keep a lot of this material in long term memory, which is important for purposes of the Steps and for rotations. You will need a lot of this info again (particularly the second year stuff). And this is the kind of approach almost nobody does in undergrad, because you don't have to -- the volume isn't so bad and if you spent a couple of days before each exam studying you would do fine. That won't usually work in med school. So undergrad and med school are night and day. Comparing them probably will give you a false sense of security which ill prepares you.

Plan on hitting the ground running and adapting flexibly to a new environment. If it ends up that you are doing well and have lots of free time, fantastic. If it ends up that you are working at full steam just to stay in the middle of the class, that happens too. Remember that half of all people who go to med school will end up in the bottom half of their class. And these were folks who also got A's in undergrad. How people deal with this ego blow tends also to be reflected in the number of study hours.
 
yeah, there are two phases of med school right now for me (pre-clinical).

1. time after exam week: about three weeks of straight chilling... maybe go to class, maybe skip and go to the mountains or just sit home; maybe study, maybe not. Go out 4+ nights a week, don't study on weekends. Very relaxing, TOO MUCH free time honestly but I try to make the best of it. If it weren't for phase two I would definitely get a job..

2. time before exam week: about a week and a half before exams something clicks and I start studying like mad. it sucks cause I feel it coming and I know that my head is gonna be in the "on" position for like two and a half weeks, but it happens and basically all I do is study.

Even during exams, it's not a bad life though.. I mean, how can you honestly complain, "All I do is sit around all day and study how freaking amazing people are and all the crazy stuff we know about them. WAAH WAAH.." like who cares man, med school is an amazing opportunity and compared to a lot of other stuff it's NOT THAT HARD (MS1 at least). We have our last exams tomorrow so I've been studying a good 10 or so hours a day for two weeks but I've learned a ton of stuff and it's cool to sit and think about (if you're into that sort of thing). Then tomorrow exams will be over, I'll switch "off" and CHILL go to the beach, hangout, etc. 😀


You make it sound very easy my friend 😀.
 
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Haha, agreed. I actually did get a part time job at a theatre, and I'm also working on a documentary at the moment.

In my opinion, how much time you have in medical school depends on 3 things:

1) What your background is like. If you have a very strong background in biochemistry, neuroscience, etc. much of the medical school material will be a repeat of what you already know. There have been some blocks in medical school where I haven't studied at all because it was ALL repeated material from what I learned in undergrad or grad school. Other classes, I needed to study much more because I didn't have the same background.

2) How much you think you have to study. If you are a person who NEEDS honors and absolutely doesn't think they can get honors without studying 10 hours/day, then you will study 10 hours/day. If you are a person who thinks they can learn everything they need by studying only on weekends, you will study only on weekends. Keep in mind that how much you study doesn't always determine your grade. I know people who study for hours everyday and barely pass, and I know people who honor courses by only putting in 1-2 days per test. It depends on what you already know, and how effective you are at learning what you don't know. Which brings me to...

3) How well you study. There are some people who just learn more efficiently than others. Those people can learn more in one day of studying than some people can in a week of studying. You'll know which camp you fall into.

For me, I study more PER EXAM than I did in undergrad, but less overall because my school only teaches one class at a time. I study about the same amount as I did in grad school.

Agreed. Sometimes I feel guilty about all the free time I have, but then an exam comes up and its back to the grind for a while. Then relax for about a week or two. I'm taking advantage of it because I know that after second year I'm in for 6-7 years of hellish hours.
 
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