"I Have A 3.8+" Trolling Needs to Stop

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There has been a huge number of senseless "I have a 3.8+ and I can't go to medical school posts" recently. Enough is enough. Can someone take action? I think it is a problem and a slap in the face to others that are working hard. Just today, there was a post about someone scared that they might be rescinded because their cGPA fell to 3.6+ (Dude, the matriculant average is in the high 3.6 range) and a post whining about an A- in a lab? Come on.
 
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Its been getting progressively worse. Yes, I am mad. I want to throw t-BuO- in their mouth.
 
If you feel that a user is trolling feel free to make use of the 'report post' button in the bottom left corner of each post in order to bring it to the moderators' attention.
 
A lot of people are neurotic and freak out about grades on here because they are freshmen/sophomores and don't know any better. Not every school has a great pre-med track where they can get all their questions answered, so they refer to SDN (which probably only fuels the neuroticism). If it bothers you, walk away. Or help them out, answer their questions, and then you can tell them to chill and that a 4.0 isn't a requirement for acceptance to medical school.
 
aSagacious said:
If you feel that a user is trolling feel free to make use of the 'report post' button in the bottom left corner of each post in order to bring it to the moderators' attention.
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Unfortunately the mods (generally) interpret the TOS so strictly that nothing happens. A good majority of the threads on the front page at any one time either 1) shouldn't be in pre-allo or 2) should be closed/deleted. This never happens.

If apathy wasn't such an issue I would probably report posts more often. Not saying I don't appreciate you guys' work, but more proactive action would be nice. In the rare instances where I have actually reported posts (which generally require something pretty straightforward since I usually don't care), nothing has happened. The only threads that are ever closed are blatant reposts or very, very obvious trolling, and Myuu seems to be the only one that ever moves threads.
 
NickNaylor said:
Unfortunately the mods (generally) interpret the TOS so strictly that nothing happens. A good majority of the threads on the front page at any one time either 1) shouldn't be in pre-allo or 2) should be closed/deleted. This never happens.

If apathy wasn't such an issue I would probably report posts more often. Not saying I don't appreciate you guys' work, but more proactive action would be nice. In the rare instances where I have actually reported posts (which generally require something pretty straightforward since I usually don't care), nothing has happened. The only threads that are ever closed are blatant reposts or very, very obvious trolling, and Myuu seems to be the only one that ever moves threads.
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That is true, but not necessarily a bad thing. If every question posted on here that could be considered by anyone to possibly be trolling (e.g. the "I got a A- in a pre-req, am I finished?" threads) were closed, SDN would be an even less-friendly forum for new users.
 
theseeker4 said:
That is true, but not necessarily a bad thing. If every question posted on here that could be considered by anyone to possibly be trolling (e.g. the "I got a A- in a pre-req, am I finished?" threads) were closed, SDN would be an even less-friendly forum for new users.
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No doubt. Obviously there's a happy medium somewhere, but IMO the general culture is too lax as it is now. It takes something that could ONLY be interpreted as trolling, flaming, etc. in order to be closed/deleted. Many of the posts are obviously trolling using common sense, but the policy seems to be to give the poster the benefit of the doubt except in the most extreme of cases.

Another thing that would help prevent this is developing a resource where a lot of this common stuff is answered. The same questions appear in a cycle that seems to be a few weeks long. What if there was a pre-allo Wiki available with answers to all of these questions? That would both serve SDN's purpose while reducing the amount clutter that appears in the forums. Just an idea, but there are no doubt many more/better solutions. I was going to compile a catalog of posts that linked to answers of common questions, but it was taking WAY too long and other things took priority. When I made a post about helping me in the task, the number of responses I got could be counted on my hands.
 
NickNaylor said:
No doubt. Obviously there's a happy medium somewhere, but IMO the general culture is too lax as it is now. It takes something that could ONLY be interpreted as trolling, flaming, etc. in order to be closed/deleted. Many of the posts are obviously trolling using common sense, but the policy seems to be to give the poster the benefit of the doubt except in the most extreme of cases.

Another thing that would help prevent this is developing a resource where a lot of this common stuff is answered. The same questions appear in a cycle that seems to be a few weeks long. What if there was a pre-allo Wiki available with answers to all of these questions? That would both serve SDN's purpose while reducing the amount clutter that appears in the forums. Just an idea, but there are no doubt many more/better solutions. I was going to compile a catalog of posts that linked to answers of common questions, but it was taking WAY too long and other things took priority. When I made a post about helping me in the task, the number of responses I got could be counted on my hands.
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LOL, yeah, I am sure that would have the same problem the "search before you post" advice does as well. Someone who is brand new to the site will still create a thread before they read anything that tells them their question has been asked and answered a hundred times. Then we have the other extreme, someone who searches and bumps a thread that hasn't had posts for 5 years, and they are jumped on for bumping an old thread. Plenty of people would skip over the WIKI, FAQ, etc. page to post a question that could have been answered in 30 seconds of reading, even though the majority of users would find such a resource helpful.
 
I hate 1.0. Is there any chance of me getting into med schoolz?


Is that better?
 
I think brand new people tend to come here and, for some unknown and idiotic reason, think they are the first person ever to ask about their chances with a 3.7,33 GPA or maybe they're the first person ever to get an open container misdemeanor. And they ignore the search before you post thing. Maybe you can make it so someone can't post until their account has been active for x amount of days or whatever.

I think it is the nature of the beast. It seems to me that "good" threads aren't being crowded out by crap threads at any given moment so I am pretty ambivalent to how things are currently run.

Besides, I sometimes wonder if all of the "class of 2045!!!!!!!!" threads are really that useful. I like posting in them, but they just seem to take up space with just random talk and don't really do anything for the average user. Only like ten people really post in them on the regular, anyway. I am not complaining, just saying you can't get too strict with determining what is a redundant or useless thread.
 
tiedyeddog said:
I think brand new people tend to come here and, for some unknown and idiotic reason, think they are the first person ever to ask about their chances with a 3.7,33 GPA or maybe they're the first person ever to get an open container misdemeanor. And they ignore the search before you post thing. Maybe you can make it so someone can't post until their account has been active for x amount of days or whatever.

I think it is the nature of the beast. It seems to me that "good" threads aren't being crowded out by crap threads at any given moment so I am pretty ambivalent to how things are currently run.

Besides, I sometimes wonder if all of the "class of 2045!!!!!!!!" threads are really that useful. I like posting in them, but they just seem to take up space with just random talk and don't really do anything for the average user. Only like ten people really post in them on the regular, anyway. I am not complaining, just saying you can't get too strict with determining what is a redundant or useless thread.
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That's why we have a secret Facebook group. 😛
 
I don't even think they are trolling. I think they are really that stupid.
 
Any thoughts on the MCAT practice test thread when you see things like "Oh my goodness I dropped from a 38 to 34 on my practice tests! Should I void my MCAT next week?"
 
I'm reminded of a great story about John Wilbram, former principal trumpet of the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. They were playing some very loud piece by Strauss, and by the end of the rehearsal, a violist near the back raised his hand:

Violist: "Maestro, can the trumpets play less loudly? Its painfully loud back here."
Wilbram: "You know, if you'd practiced harder you'd be sitting closer to the front...."

Seriously,if that sort of stuff is bugging you, get off SDN and study harder. I can guarantee you that people trolling with a 3.8 post won't annoy you nearly as much if you're sitting on a 3.9.

And in response to NickNaylor's comments, yes, a lot of the threads in Pre-Allo do seem a little ridiculous and pointless. But who should be the judge of what might be relevant to others on the forum? As they say, "one man's garbage...." Having said that, SDN Wiki is not a bad idea.
 
Calvinball said:
I'm reminded of a great story about John Wilbram, former principal trumpet of the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. They were playing some very loud piece by Strauss, and by the end of the rehearsal, a violist near the back raised his hand:

Violist: "Maestro, can the trumpets play less loudly? Its painfully loud back here."
Wilbram: "You know, if you'd practiced harder you'd be sitting closer to the front...."

Seriously,if that sort of stuff is bugging you, get off SDN and study harder. I can guarantee you that people trolling with a 3.8 post won't annoy you nearly as much if you're sitting on a 3.9.

And in response to NickNaylor's comments, yes, a lot of the threads in Pre-Allo do seem a little ridiculous and pointless. But who should be the judge of what might be relevant to others on the forum? As they say, "one man's garbage...." Having said that, SDN Wiki is not a bad idea.
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I'm not saying mods should go about deleting threads they don't think are relevant. However, there are places for the "garbage" outside of pre-allo (namely, the "what are my chances?" and Lounge forums, not to mention the many, many others). If everything was just put in its right place, there would be significantly less clutter around these parts.
 
NickNaylor said:
I'm not saying mods should go about deleting threads they don't think are relevant. However, there are places for the "garbage" outside of pre-allo (namely, the "what are my chances?" and Lounge forums, not to mention the many, many others). If everything was just put in its right place, there would be significantly less clutter around these parts.
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That's fair; perhaps I missed the mark of your earlier posts.
 
I agree with Nick Naylor. This forum is the only resource that a lot of us have, and allowing it to become cluttered with trolly posts and useless polls really does everyone a disservice. Why not just have a must read FAQ stickied that answers 90% of what's posted on here and explicitly say that if a question is already answered in the FAQ your thread will be closed?
 
Maybe have a few stickied posts at the top like so:

Can I get in with a (<3.0) GPA?
Can I get in with a (3.0-3.25) GPA?
Can I get in with a (3.25-3.5) GPA?
Can I get in with a (3.5-3.75) GPA?
Can I get in with a (3.75-4.0) GPA?

and have a script that will sort any post with a GPA in the subject line into the appropriate thread.
 
scarshapedstar said:
Maybe have a few stickied posts at the top like so:

Can I get in with a (<3.0) GPA?
Can I get in with a (3.0-3.25) GPA?
Can I get in with a (3.25-3.5) GPA?
Can I get in with a (3.5-3.75) GPA?
Can I get in with a (3.75-4.0) GPA?

and have a script that will sort any post with a GPA in the subject line into the appropriate thread.
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We have an entire section dedicated to chance threads already
 
yea i hate the ones where they said they failed every class, got a DUI, caught cheating in school and they think its over! :meanie:
 
EVAQ5700 said:
If any of you bumbling idiots ever pulled your heads out of the ground you would realize that basing your entire life on averages will only allow you to rest assured that you lead a life of miserable, incompetent, mediocrity. Even applicants with 4.0 GPA and 40+ MCAT are rejected, as is evidenced by all the pathetic statistical data that you nerds parse through on an alarming basis. If a thread pertaining to one's chances is not posted in the relevant forum, move it; do not furrow your brow and ruffle your feathers because you view the poster as someone sitting on a golden ticket to medical school just because he has a tabulated "37% higher chance of admission" than your own lazy self. If you keyboard jockies spent half the time you waste on here getting mad at each other on your studies, you would look down on posters worrying about 3.8+ from your 3.96 vantage.

Kindest regards,
Jimmy
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Is it cloudy up there? 😴
 
EVAQ5700 said:
If any of you bumbling idiots ever pulled your heads out of the ground you would realize that basing your entire life on averages will only allow you to rest assured that you lead a life of miserable, incompetent, mediocrity. Even applicants with 4.0 GPA and 40+ MCAT are rejected, as is evidenced by all the pathetic statistical data that you nerds parse through on an alarming basis. If a thread pertaining to one's chances is not posted in the relevant forum, move it; do not furrow your brow and ruffle your feathers because you view the poster as someone sitting on a golden ticket to medical school just because he has a tabulated "37% higher chance of admission" than your own lazy self. If you keyboard jockies spent half the time you waste on here getting mad at each other on your studies, you would look down on posters worrying about 3.8+ from your 3.96 vantage.

Kindest regards,
Jimmy
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:corny:
 
EVAQ5700 said:
If any of you bumbling idiots ever pulled your heads out of the ground you would realize that basing your entire life on averages will only allow you to rest assured that you lead a life of miserable, incompetent, mediocrity. Even applicants with 4.0 GPA and 40+ MCAT are rejected, as is evidenced by all the pathetic statistical data that you nerds parse through on an alarming basis. If a thread pertaining to one's chances is not posted in the relevant forum, move it; do not furrow your brow and ruffle your feathers because you view the poster as someone sitting on a golden ticket to medical school just because he has a tabulated "37% higher chance of admission" than your own lazy self. If you keyboard jockies spent half the time you waste on here getting mad at each other on your studies, you would look down on posters worrying about 3.8+ from your 3.96 vantage.

Kindest regards,
Jimmy
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Strong contribution, thanks.
 
EVAQ5700 said:
If any of you bumbling idiots ever pulled your heads out of the ground you would realize that basing your entire life on averages will only allow you to rest assured that you lead a life of miserable, incompetent, mediocrity. Even applicants with 4.0 GPA and 40+ MCAT are rejected, as is evidenced by all the pathetic statistical data that you nerds parse through on an alarming basis. If a thread pertaining to one's chances is not posted in the relevant forum, move it; do not furrow your brow and ruffle your feathers because you view the poster as someone sitting on a golden ticket to medical school just because he has a tabulated "37% higher chance of admission" than your own lazy self. If you keyboard jockies spent half the time you waste on here getting mad at each other on your studies, you would look down on posters worrying about 3.8+ from your 3.96 vantage.

Kindest regards,
Jimmy
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Love this. No sarcasm intended.
 
nicknaylor's stock is constantly rising in my book.
 
If any of you bumbling idiots ever pulled your heads out of the ground you would realize that basing your entire life on averages will only allow you to rest assured that you lead a life of miserable, incompetent, mediocrity. Even applicants with 4.0 GPA and 40+ MCAT are rejected, as is evidenced by all the pathetic statistical data that you nerds parse through on an alarming basis. If a thread pertaining to one's chances is not posted in the relevant forum, move it; do not furrow your brow and ruffle your feathers because you view the poster as someone sitting on a golden ticket to medical school just because he has a tabulated "37% higher chance of admission" than your own lazy self. If you keyboard jockies spent half the time you waste on here getting mad at each other on your studies, you would look down on posters worrying about 3.8+ from your 3.96 vantage.

Kindest regards,
Jimmy
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Eloquently said. With NickNaylor's avatar right next to the quoted text, I can't help but imagine the actual Dr. Cox saying something exactly like that. Picture it in your mind; it can't be unseen.
 
NickNaylor said:
Unfortunately the mods (generally) interpret the TOS so strictly that nothing happens. A good majority of the threads on the front page at any one time either 1) shouldn't be in pre-allo or 2) should be closed/deleted. This never happens.

If apathy wasn't such an issue I would probably report posts more often. Not saying I don't appreciate you guys' work, but more proactive action would be nice. In the rare instances where I have actually reported posts (which generally require something pretty straightforward since I usually don't care), nothing has happened. The only threads that are ever closed are blatant reposts or very, very obvious trolling, and Myuu seems to be the only one that ever moves threads.
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Do keep in mind that disciplinary action we take against users is not disclosed publicly.

And for the record on thread bumps, people only get harped on when they bump an old thread in a stupid manner, like responding to an OP who hasn't logged in for six years, or just saying "lol!" or something. Relevant bumps where the thread is still relevant (e.g. isn't so old that the original situation is outdated or something) are uncommon but are appreciated and I've never seen one ill-received.
 
EVAQ5700 said:
If any of you bumbling idiots ever pulled your heads out of the ground you would realize that basing your entire life on averages will only allow you to rest assured that you lead a life of miserable, incompetent, mediocrity. Even applicants with 4.0 GPA and 40+ MCAT are rejected, as is evidenced by all the pathetic statistical data that you nerds parse through on an alarming basis. If a thread pertaining to one's chances is not posted in the relevant forum, move it; do not furrow your brow and ruffle your feathers because you view the poster as someone sitting on a golden ticket to medical school just because he has a tabulated "37% higher chance of admission" than your own lazy self. If you keyboard jockies spent half the time you waste on here getting mad at each other on your studies, you would look down on posters worrying about 3.8+ from your 3.96 vantage.

Kindest regards,
Jimmy
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This is pretty silly. When I make an investment, I'll look at the risk and ROI at the minimum. Medical school is a major investment, and blundering in blind is absolutely stupid. Yeah, averages are pretty stupid. Let's throw out the entire works of economics, medicine, and research in general.
 
Fair enough, but I think the point about being extremely lax when it comes to useless/inflammatory/incorrectly placed threads still stands. Sure, you might give a user a warning, but the thread isn't closed or, in the cases of threads that clearly contribute nothing, deleted.

When the only consequence is getting a slap on the wrist in the form of a PM or some disciplinary report, nothing is done to separate the chaff from the wheat and preserve the concentration of genuinely useful material. Instead that stuff gets diluted out with worthless crap that either shouldn't have been posted at all or should be somewhere else in the forums.

For example, nothing bad will happen to the guy above. He probably won't be put on probation or banned. This thread shouldn't even still be open. This is exactly the kind of issue I'm referring to. And if the excuse is no one reported it, give me a break. Something as blatant as that shouldn't have to be reported in order for action to be taken.
 
EVAQ5700 said:
If any of you bumbling idiots ever pulled your heads out of the ground you would realize that basing your entire life on averages will only allow you to rest assured that you lead a life of miserable, incompetent, mediocrity. Even applicants with 4.0 GPA and 40+ MCAT are rejected, as is evidenced by all the pathetic statistical data that you nerds parse through on an alarming basis. If a thread pertaining to one's chances is not posted in the relevant forum, move it; do not furrow your brow and ruffle your feathers because you view the poster as someone sitting on a golden ticket to medical school just because he has a tabulated "37% higher chance of admission" than your own lazy self. If you keyboard jockies spent half the time you waste on here getting mad at each other on your studies, you would look down on posters worrying about 3.8+ from your 3.96 vantage.

Kindest regards,
Jimmy
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hahahahha. Not even going to post a stupid JPEG about it.

U MAD, BRO?
 
tiedyeddog said:
I think brand new people tend to come here and, for some unknown and idiotic reason, think they are the first person ever to ask about their chances with a 3.7,33 GPA or maybe they're the first person ever to get an open container misdemeanor. And they ignore the search before you post thing. Maybe you can make it so someone can't post until their account has been active for x amount of days or whatever.

I think it is the nature of the beast. It seems to me that "good" threads aren't being crowded out by crap threads at any given moment so I am pretty ambivalent to how things are currently run.

Besides, I sometimes wonder if all of the "class of 2045!!!!!!!!" threads are really that useful. I like posting in them, but they just seem to take up space with just random talk and don't really do anything for the average user. Only like ten people really post in them on the regular, anyway. I am not complaining, just saying you can't get too strict with determining what is a redundant or useless thread.
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The "Class of XXXX" threads should be shut down to allow those who post on them on the regular to get a life. They are POINTLESS and sometimes just sad.
 
EVAQ5700 said:
If any of you bumbling idiots ever pulled your heads out of the ground you would realize that basing your entire life on averages will only allow you to rest assured that you lead a life of miserable, incompetent, mediocrity. Even applicants with 4.0 GPA and 40+ MCAT are rejected, as is evidenced by all the pathetic statistical data that you nerds parse through on an alarming basis. If a thread pertaining to one's chances is not posted in the relevant forum, move it; do not furrow your brow and ruffle your feathers because you view the poster as someone sitting on a golden ticket to medical school just because he has a tabulated "37% higher chance of admission" than your own lazy self. If you keyboard jockies spent half the time you waste on here getting mad at each other on your studies, you would look down on posters worrying about 3.8+ from your 3.96 vantage.

Kindest regards,
Jimmy
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What is this? I don't even....

It took me several minutes to successfully capture a decent meme image, but here it is
























































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Espadaleader said:
There has been a huge number of senseless "I have a 3.8+ and I can't go to medical school posts" recently. Enough is enough. Can someone take action? I think it is a problem and a slap in the face to others that are working hard. Just today, there was a post about someone scared that they might be rescinded because their cGPA fell to 3.6+ (Dude, the matriculant average is in the high 3.6 range) and a post whining about an A- in a lab? Come on.
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Dude, I just finished this semester and I was actually kind of upset I got a 3.7 =/ haha, but not like in a neurotic way, more like in a "I can do better" way, I think the people who you're attacking are just people who are really motivated and clearly worried about their grades, even if they do great. Med school admissions are somewhat of a crap shoot, no body wants to waste a year of their life applying, traveling and sitting on wait-lists, it's natural for everyone to be worried; you'll have your day.
 
MrNovember said:
I don't even think they are trolling. I think they are really that stupid.
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Same,

I think it's those people that always complain about not doing well on a test but ending up in the 5% every time. You can never tell if they're doing that to psyche you out, or if they're genuinely that douchy. I know where' you're coming from though, but just ignore it and look at the posts that relate to you.
 
If any of you bumbling idiots ever pulled your heads out of the ground you would realize that basing your entire life on averages will only allow you to rest assured that you lead a life of miserable, incompetent, mediocrity. Even applicants with 4.0 GPA and 40+ MCAT are rejected, as is evidenced by all the pathetic statistical data that you nerds parse through on an alarming basis. If a thread pertaining to one's chances is not posted in the relevant forum, move it; do not furrow your brow and ruffle your feathers because you view the poster as someone sitting on a golden ticket to medical school just because he has a tabulated "37% higher chance of admission" than your own lazy self. If you keyboard jockies spent half the time you waste on here getting mad at each other on your studies, you would look down on posters worrying about 3.8+ from your 3.96 vantage.

Kindest regards,
Jimmy
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My GPA dropped from a 4.0 to a 3.97 (100 credits overall) and I was annoyed. You gonna get mad at me bro?
 
torshi said:
yea i hate the ones where they said they failed every class, got a DUI, caught cheating in school and they think its over! :meanie:
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you know stuff like that can really make you doubt your entire life, it can get pretty serious. :uhno:
 
EVAQ5700 said:
If any of you bumbling idiots ever pulled your heads out of the ground you would realize that basing your entire life on averages will only allow you to rest assured that you lead a life of miserable, incompetent, mediocrity. Even applicants with 4.0 GPA and 40+ MCAT are rejected, as is evidenced by all the pathetic statistical data that you nerds parse through on an alarming basis. If a thread pertaining to one's chances is not posted in the relevant forum, move it; do not furrow your brow and ruffle your feathers because you view the poster as someone sitting on a golden ticket to medical school just because he has a tabulated "37% higher chance of admission" than your own lazy self. If you keyboard jockies spent half the time you waste on here getting mad at each other on your studies, you would look down on posters worrying about 3.8+ from your 3.96 vantage.

Kindest regards,
Jimmy
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Who is this person and why is s/he trying to be cool and failing so hard?

Does that last sentence in this letter/paragraph thing even make sense to you guys?

Also, *jockeys. But thanks for playing.
 
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