i will likely be 1st in my class, jr.AOA, chances?

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i'm probably gonna be 250/260 on the step1 as well.

i don't really have research in derm, per se. but i have looked at the stats and i think i have a shot.

are numbers usually good enough?
 
typeB-md said:
i'm probably gonna be 250/260 on the step1 as well.

i don't really have research in derm, per se. but i have looked at the stats and i think i have a shot. are numbers usually good enough?


It sounds like you just finished the 1st two years of medical school, just took Step 1, and you're about to start 3rd year clerkships. Is this correct?

If this is the "case", you still have a long way to go to get into Derm. You must continue your excellence during your 3rd year clerkships. Of all the years in medical school, the 3rd year is the most closely scrutinized time in your medical student experience. It will impact your career options. You must HONOR at least half your 3rd year rotations, especially your Internal Medicine clerkship. You must HONOR your dermatology electives.

As for Derm research, get on the ball now. It may be hard to believe, but there are many Derm applicants with similar numbers to yours. How will you set yourself apart from them? Do something (ie, research, pubs, etc) to show your "genuine" interest in the field. Refer to the thread "Publishing in a Derm Journal?" for more details on publication opportunities. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=209030

Also, be careful on your tone. From your little thread, you sound "arrogant" (which may or may not be the case. just an observation). Being confident is great, but arrogance is truly annoying. Clerkship grading has a major subjective component. Therefore, you must get along with the attendings, residents, and your peers. The person who grades you will observe you and your interactions with others. The grader will also usually ask for input from attendings, residents, and support staff who worked with you. So eyes are on you at all times. Confidence, being prepared, working hard, showing interest, and being a TEAM PLAYER are the keys to doing well in your clerkships. In medical school, I knew a few people who did outstanding during the 1st two years of medical school, but "bombed" their 3rd year because of their problematic personality. So be careful, smile, play nice, and study your as$ off.
 
porokeratosis said:
It sounds like you just finished the 1st two years of medical school, just took Step 1, and you're about to start 3rd year clerkships. Is this correct?

If this is the "case", you still have a long way to go to get into Derm. You must continue your excellence during your 3rd year clerkships. Of all the years in medical school, the 3rd year is the most closely scrutinized time in your medical student experience. It will impact your career options. You must HONOR at least half your 3rd year rotations, especially your Internal Medicine clerkship. You must HONOR your dermatology electives.

As for Derm research, get on the ball now. It may be hard to believe, but there are many Derm applicants with similar numbers to yours. How will you set yourself apart from them? Do something (ie, research, pubs, etc) to show your "genuine" interest in the field. Refer to the thread "Publishing in a Derm Journal?" for more details on publication opportunities. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=209030

Also, be careful on your tone. From your little thread, you sound "arrogant" (which may or may not be the case. just an observation). Being confident is great, but arrogance is truly annoying. Clerkship grading has a major subjective component. Therefore, you must get along with the attendings, residents, and your peers. The person who grades you will observe you and your interactions with others. The grader will also usually ask for input from attendings, residents, and support staff who worked with you. So eyes are on you at all times. Confidence, being prepared, working hard, showing interest, and being a TEAM PLAYER are the keys to doing well in your clerkships. In medical school, I knew a few people who did outstanding during the 1st two years of medical school, but "bombed" their 3rd year because of their problematic personality. So be careful, smile, play nice, and study your as$ off.
geez.. i did not realize i would need to publish to have a chance.

to answer your question, i will be starting my second year. i don't mean to come off as arrogant, but i am very confident in my capabilities. i have a photographic memory and remember probably 99% of what i read the first time.

i think 3rd and 4th year will be alright because i can study and ace the shelf exams. but, i will definitely try and establish a good rapport with my faculty.

and are there really other derm applicants that can show these numbers? jr.AOA, 1st in class, and let's say a 260 aren't guaranteed admission into even a "lower" derm spot?
 
Yeah, be careful. It is not shocking that someone with a photographic memory would do very well in the first year of medical school, and your success will probably continue into year two as well. However, be warned that success in medicine will require many other forms of intelligence aside from a remarkable short term memory. Your medical school has not assessed those skills yet, but rest assured, they will.

Above all else, don't make the mistake of thinking and projecting that you think that you are brilliant and will always be ahead of your peers. You should know that people with photographic memories often flunk out of top law schools (watch "The Paperchase" if you want to see an example of that), so don't be fooled into thinking that your mind is God's gift to mankind.
 
I am so happy I decided to browse Dermatology today :laugh:
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I didn't totally understand you for the first 500 posts or so, but now I got your number. 👍

Thanks for that.
 
typeB-md said:
i'm probably gonna be 250/260 on the step1 as well.

i don't really have research in derm, per se. but i have looked at the stats and i think i have a shot.

are numbers usually good enough?

First, let me address your step 1 score. You state that you're "...probably gonna [get] 250/260...", on what do you base that assumption? History? MCAT? Just so that you know, many people did well prior to step 1, only to be sorely disappointed with that particular score!

Second, you stated that you are probably gonna be "1st" in your class. At our school, 22 people had 4.0's after year 1; thus, 22 people were, according to our class rankings, number 1! Now that we're entering fourth year there are THREE number 1's. 😱

Third, no matter how confident you are in to your so-called "photographic memory", Dermatologists still have to deal with patients/clients. Based on the tone of your posts, you will come across as arrogant and condescending. Therefore, no matter what your numbers may finally be, you will have a difficult time matching into a competitive residency where others not only match your numbers, but also possess a personality!
 
Personally, I don't have any problem with confidence. If you come across as arrogant in person, some one will let you know in your third year. There is no need to feel threatened or offended by type-b's messages. The simple answer to your question is: a lot of people will tell you no , numbers are not enough. While there may not be tons of people with those numbers, there are more than a few- and those that truly stand out will have reseach, good LORs, connections, and a good medical school pedigree. I don't think you mentioned your goal residency- ie top ten, middle tier, anything etc. Good luck. :luck:
 
maybe this is because I'm a sarcastic smart-ass and I'm projecting, but seriously, does no one else smell troll?

come on typeB, stop f*cking with them........
 
I'm in the 10th grade. I will go to a top 5 college and do very well. I will make 35+ on the MCAT and land a top medical school. I figure to make 270+ on step 1 and a few points higher on step two. I plan to apply to the top 50 derm programs and figure to get 30+ interviews. Which program is the very best so I will know which one to choose?

Thanks for your help
 
wooo said:
I'm in the 10th grade. I will go to a top 5 college and do very well. I will make 35+ on the MCAT and land a top medical school. I figure to make 270+ on step 1 and a few points higher on step two. I plan to apply to the top 50 derm programs and figure to get 30+ interviews. Which program is the very best so I will know which one to choose?

Thanks for your help

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wooo said:
I'm in the 10th grade. I will go to a top 5 college and do very well. I will make 35+ on the MCAT and land a top medical school. I figure to make 270+ on step 1 and a few points higher on step two. I plan to apply to the top 50 derm programs and figure to get 30+ interviews. Which program is the very best so I will know which one to choose?

Thanks for your help

I've never laughed so hard reading a post!
 
there is no evidence that photographic memory exists even after decades of research. it's easy to get a false-sense of greatness early in one's life. many could look back at earlier times in their life where they thought they had genious in them. in the end, it's about putting in the work to do that well in school. i know the people at my school who scored the highest and did the best on step 1, studied like mad people, at a level that scared me. one of them spread a rumor about himself that he had a photographic memory. i wondered then why he was at the library from dusk to dawn. he was the biggest elitist and turd ever, if u ask me.
 
thanks for the laughs!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
Type-B I am going to read your palm and predict your future..... You will score well during your second year of medical school, but you will constantly dismiss your classmate's ideas because you think you know everything. This, along with your constant talking about yourself will annoy and alienate you from your peers. You will start third year and suddenly you will wonder what the hell happend when your evaluations read "very book smart, but has trouble recognizing limitations, communication difficulties, poor rapport with patients etc. You will not get honors, not because your not performing at that level, because you will probably know more that even perhaps some of the interns, but people will not like you. Eventually you will be humbled by this experience (hopefully) but it will be too late. Mediocre evaluations and LOR's will be your legacy and you will be powerless to stop it. I also will read the past.... your an only child and your mommy spoiled you. And your a virgin. 🙂
 
I don't know why people keep denying the existence of photographic memories. They do in fact exist in one form or another. One of my friends in undergrad had one. You could have him read anything just once--a page out of a bio book, a novel, even the white pages and he could then recite it for you word for word right then or even months later. If he has one then I'm sure there are people in med school with similar photo memories.
 
I have something completely different... I have an unphotographic memory... if you tell me a hundred times I still won't remember what you told me...now or years later....
 
i may not have a photographic memory, but i certainlyi have a pornographic memory. or should i say ... mammary?
 
MrHide said:
i may not have a photographic memory, but i certainlyi have a pornographic memory. or should i say ... mammary?

Props for the quality post MrHide, funniest I've read in a while...
 
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