IDP vs. AEGD?

[dentheartthrob]

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Hello, can some one be kind enough to shed some light concering doing IDP vs. AEGD programs? Any inputs would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Dino

 

[Asnan]

Have the same concern. Any body could help ?

 

[NileBDS]

I am a senior IDS student at Pacific, and am currently applying for GPR's (General Practice Residency). Yes, both of these may be avenues for licensure in different states, but they are totally different programs.

IDS/IDP programs, are teaching programs. They teach you advanced dentistry and dental concepts. You have classes, lectures, seminars, quizzes and finals in addition to clinic, lab work and all that good stuff.

AEGD/GPR programs are not teaching programs. They are experience building programs, which means that you should already know your stuff prior to enrolling in one. Otherwise, you risk being exploited as cheap labor. You learn mostly from your own experiences.

As a cautionary note, it is very hard to compare "IDP's" to "AEGD's". Every single IDP is unique from the other, and the same goes for AEGD's and GPR's. This post is just to give you a glimpse into the core differences between the two program setups.
Feel free to ask any additional questions, specific to IDP's or AEGDs.

 

[rzon2chie]

to follow up with NILES had said here are the difference.....

IDP/Advance standing leads you to a degree of DDS or DMD, you pay $150-300,000 for tuition fee, but it depends on what school you are going to. 2-3 years of academical study. Finishing this kind of program make you practice anywhere in the United States. which is the greatest advantage among dentist who wants to travel a lot and built different kind of practice anywhere.

AEGD/GPR should be done for 2 years to be eligible to have a license , this program leads you to a certificate to practice not a degree. this type of program is honored in 17 states in the united states. which means having this program limits you to practice on some states. Advantage of this program is you do not need to pay some are free some are not.. depends on what school you are gonna apply too.

In short either of the two can do...😀

 

[dentheartthrob]

I also read somewhere that less than 5.6% of AEGD residents are foreign grads 🙁

 

[NileBDS]

I also read somewhere that less than 5.6% of AEGD residents are foreign grads 🙁

This may be true. Most (not all) residencies require you be a citizen or green card holder, prior to applying. Residencies (specially hospital based residencies) receive what is called GME funds (graduate medical education). These funds are allocated by the government, and paid for by tax money. That makes it hard for program directors to justify accepting foreign grads, and spending US tax money on their training.

 

[dentheartthrob]

This may be true. Most (not all) residencies require you be a citizen or green card holder, prior to applying. Residencies (specially hospital based residencies) receive what is called GME funds (graduate medical education). These funds are allocated by the government, and paid for by tax money. That makes it hard for program directors to justify accepting foreign grads, and spending US tax money on their training.

so you're saying that a foreign grad who's a citizen or resident has a pretty good chance of entering these programs? 🙂...that's something to think about

 

[NileBDS]

so you're saying that a foreign grad who's a citizen or resident has a pretty good chance of entering these programs? 🙂...that's something to think about

I am sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. What I meant to say is that is you are a citizen/permanent resident, then you may have a better chance than those without. It is still pretty tough to get into any residency as a foreign graduate.

 

[ramponfire]

to follow up with NILES had said here are the difference.....

IDP/Advance standing leads you to a degree of DDS or DMD, you pay $150-300,000 for tuition fee, but it depends on what school you are going to. 2-3 years of academical study. Finishing this kind of program make you practice anywhere in the United States. which is the greatest advantage among dentist who wants to travel a lot and built different kind of practice anywhere.

AEGD/GPR should be done for 2 years to be eligible to have a license , this program leads you to a certificate to practice not a degree. this type of program is honored in 17 states in the united states. which means having this program limits you to practice on some states. Advantage of this program is you do not need to pay some are free some are not.. depends on what school you are gonna apply too.

In short either of the two can do...😀

Can we get the license to practice dentistry by doing a AEGD/GPR without a DDS or DMD, in selected states as you just mentioned.If yes please forward me the link to it. Thanks.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

Can we get the license to practice dentistry by doing a AEGD/GPR without a DDS or DMD, in selected states as you just mentioned.If yes please forward me the link to it. Thanks.

Yes

 

[rzon2chie]

Check the website of ADA www.ada.org, in Leiu of doing 2 years of academic study, you can go for clinical training of 2 years that was credited by ADA. But some state like Washington and Virginia you can practice there even doing 1 year of AEGD or GPR. I know this for sure because I had a friend who is doing his practice now after finishing a year of AEGD.

 

[Asnan]

Thank you Sherif and rzon2chie for your input.

What if I'm only interested in getting more clinical experience. Not after a DDS/DMD degree nor any degree or license to practice in the states, but after an AEGD accredited clinical certificate. And willing to pay whatever the residency program may cost.

Do I have a chance ?

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

Thank you Sherif and rzon2chie for your input.

What if I'm only interested in getting more clinical experience. Not after a DDS/DMD degree nor any degree or license to practice in the states, but after an AEGD accredited clinical certificate. And willing to pay whatever the residency program may cost.

Do I have a chance ?

Start applying to programs and find out. Most people on here are not program directors, so won't be able to give you an answer to that question. Can't hurt to put in some applications. Go for it.

 

[igores07]

In the ADA website, the PDF file for "Summary of State Educational Requirements for International Dentists" has been updated recently, check it out.

There is a well-constructed chart explaining the exact requirements for each US state and Puerto Rico.

It seems that out of 50 states only MN does not require further education of any kind. (IDP, advanced standing, specialty, AEGD, GPR, etc.) But of course it does not mean that anybody who applies for licensure in MN will get it, you have to apply for licensure, then they will process your application, and if they decide that your education is acceptable, your foreign dental degree will be accepted without any other requirements.

Here is the link.