If I get a lowish mcat score would getting a master's degree makeup for it?

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I was talking to a friend who is doing this last night, so it peaked my curiosity. i graduated from undergrad last quarter and depending on my mcat score (im taking it a day from now) and how long mcat scores are good for (no idea) I might go back to college and get a master's. Would that be enough to make up for a low mcat score? I'd obviously apply to medical school even if i got a low mcat score. My other stats are competitive.

and by low mcat score i mean like 28/29 (I have a 3.62 gpa and good E.C.s). I also did a bit of digging on getting a master's and it really does seem like it's that difficult to do. I'm also looking at retaking the mcat, but it gives me something to do as well, also a chance to pursue more in depth knowledge in a bio sci related field (im thinking genetics or biochem) and if it looks good and makes me more competitive that's even better.
 
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I was talking to a friend who is doing this last night, so it peaked my curiosity. i graduated from undergrad last quarter and depending on my mcat score (im taking it a day from now) and how long mcat scores are good for (no idea) I might go back to college and get a master's. Would that be enough to make up for a low mcat score? I'd obviously apply to medical school even if i got a low mcat score. My other stats are competitive.

and by low mcat score i mean like 28/29 (I have a 3.62 gpa and good E.C.s). I also did a bit of digging on getting a master's and it really does seem like it's that difficult to do. I'm also looking at retaking the mcat, but it gives me something to do as well and if it looks good and makes me more competitive that's even better.

A masters doesn't really make up for anything in this process. Do one if you're interested in it, but otherwise don't expect much leniency. I'm doing my second masters now and I'd say the main benefit is having time to reflect on what you want out of medicine, having more research to speak of (if you were lacking in that), and being able to pursue something that you're interested in (be it public health, computer engineering, etc).
 
I think going into your MCAT with that mindset is a recipe for disaster. If you don't feel confident in breaking a 30, you might want to void your exam. Study hard for a few extra weeks to save yourself thousands of dollars and years of time on a degree that you might not necessarily be interested in.
 
I think going into your MCAT with that mindset is a recipe for disaster. If you don't feel confident in breaking a 30, you might want to void your exam. Study hard for a few extra weeks to save yourself thousands of dollars and years of time on a degree that you might not necessarily be interested in.

I understand what you're saying, but it's more of a preventive measure. im confident in doing the best i can in my circumstances but i also know the averages of my scores on the practice AAMCS. i've been studying really hard for the past 5+ months. I believe I can score a 30 or 31 on the real thing if im careful (my last 4 or 5 practices were all 30s except for 11R which I got a 29 on and one where I got a 31), but i want to have a backup so I can put my time off from school to use the best I can. i dont plan on voiding unless i really screw up either way. I also know some techniques that may really help me improve my scores if it comes to that. I want to hit the ground running when I finish that mcat either way and have a plan.
 
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thank you. such a pet peeve of mine, i was gonna reply with this too, but i guess i should of come in earlier. [shudder]

OP, master's making up for a low mcat score = :roflcopter:

Why isn't it viable? People with lower GPAs do it to make up for their lower college gpas, so I don't see why it wouldn't work for mcat scores. It just seems like another way to distinguish yourself from other applicants and show stuff your mcat score may not have shown.
 
Why isn't it viable? People with lower GPAs do it to make up for their lower college gpas, so I don't see why it wouldn't work for mcat scores. It just seems like another way to distinguish yourself other applicants and show stuff your mcat score may not have shown.


The thing is, there are thousands of applicants with master's degrees, let alone law degree and PhD, so your application will not look any more special. You can argue all day about what MCAT does not show, but as a re-applicant, I can assure you that it does not work. You need a decent MCAT score, period.
 
I was talking to a friend who is doing this last night, so it peaked my curiosity. i graduated from undergrad last quarter and depending on my mcat score (im taking it a day from now) and how long mcat scores are good for (no idea) I might go back to college and get a master's. Would that be enough to make up for a low mcat score? I'd obviously apply to medical school even if i got a low mcat score. My other stats are competitive.

and by low mcat score i mean like 28/29 (I have a 3.62 gpa and good E.C.s). I also did a bit of digging on getting a master's and it really does seem like it's that difficult to do. I'm also looking at retaking the mcat, but it gives me something to do as well, also a chance to pursue more in depth knowledge in a bio sci related field (im thinking genetics or biochem) and if it looks good and makes me more competitive that's even better.

Unfortunately, nothing makes up for a low mcat score, as this is a red flag that might bar you from any interview invites. If you are invited to interview, it will most certainly come up during an open file interview. There are small variations for various applicants depending on your background (i.e. instate/out of state, ORM/URM, underprivileged, etc.), but for the most part there's a floor to how low schools are willing to go. You can consult the MSAR, which is a great tool as it shows not only the averages of accepted students to each individual medical school, but the breakdown of their scores as a range and by percentiles. Study hard, and good luck!
 
If you ace the right MS program, and target the right schools, then yes.


I was talking to a friend who is doing this last night, so it peaked my curiosity. i graduated from undergrad last quarter and depending on my mcat score (im taking it a day from now) and how long mcat scores are good for (no idea) I might go back to college and get a master's. Would that be enough to make up for a low mcat score? I'd obviously apply to medical school even if i got a low mcat score. My other stats are competitive.

and by low mcat score i mean like 28/29 (I have a 3.62 gpa and good E.C.s). I also did a bit of digging on getting a master's and it really does seem like it's that difficult to do. I'm also looking at retaking the mcat, but it gives me something to do as well, also a chance to pursue more in depth knowledge in a bio sci related field (im thinking genetics or biochem) and if it looks good and makes me more competitive that's even better.
 
A SMP is what you would want, not any old master's. As to whether or not it would overcome a poor MCAT, that's up for debate.
 
A PhD might impress AdComs, not a master's.
Even a PhD does not give you a free ticket to interviews.
 
a masters won't make up for a low mcat score
 
OP. Look into special masters program like at Rosalind Franklin or EVMS where once admitted your performance in the BMS program determines acceptance into medical school. GL in your pursuit
 
A SMP is what you would want, not any old master's. As to whether or not it would overcome a poor MCAT, that's up for debate.
I had read: Most SMPs require an MCAT of 30+ to be considered for the program.

Edit: on reviewing my source information, this is not correct. Programs state they will consider folks with lower scores. But if an MD school is one's primary goal, then having, or eventually getting, a 30+ MCAT score improves one's odds of success.
 
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You know what makes up for a low MCAT score? A retake with a high MCAT score.

Medicine doesn't respect graduate degrees. Them's the rules. Deal with it.
 
Why isn't it viable? People with lower GPAs do it to make up for their lower college gpas, so I don't see why it wouldn't work for mcat scores. It just seems like another way to distinguish yourself from other applicants and show stuff your mcat score may not have shown.

If someone else already answered this, I apologize, I didn't see it.

Disclaimer: I am not involved with any admissions process, so this is speculative.

Admissions committees partially choose applicants based on how likely it seems that the applicant will be able to perform as a student: two indicators we all have for this are our GPA and our MCAT. The difficulty of attaining a good Gpa can vary a great deal by institution and major: in my experience, it is often more a matter of motivation/study skill than ability (anecdotal, subjective, and biased experience). It is also measured over four years, which allows for trends: having an upward trend is obviously helpful. Because gpa is influenced by these other factors, and measured over such a long period of time, a masters can help in several ways: the fresh start in graduate school gives you a fresh start to improve your GPA, the fact that it comes after college allows for an upward trend, and the more difficult nature of the classes better indicates your ability to survive rigorous classes like those offered in medical school.

The MCAT is a totally separate beast. It is often given so much weight because it is a relatively objective, constant measurement of your basic knowledge/reasoning in comparison to your peers (although far from perfect). No matter how well you do in your masters program, if you do terribly on the MCAT, it indicates a poorer understanding of the basic material than your high scoring competitors. Your masters may still help, as it indicates you can tolerate graduate level coursework, but it cannot replace a powerful foundation in biology, chemistry, and physics. It may even hurt you if your score is poor in an area corresponding to your masters (if you are a graduate physics student, I would expect you to destroy the physics portion).

So to my understanding, getting a masters degree may make up for a low GPA, depending on your performance in the program, but it is unlikely to help as much in repairing a poor MCAT.

Also, masters programs are really expensive, and far from easy. Don't get one unless you have a plan to use it and are passionate about the subject matter. For MD admissions, it seems to me, you would be better off getting experience showing your continued interest in health care. Especially if you can make money and study for an MCAT retake while doing so.

Tl dr: masters helps with gpa due to trend and difficulty, does not help with MCAT as it still indicates a poor base understanding of knowledge needed for med. school. There are better uses of your time than getting a masters if you only plan to use it for your application.
 
Why isn't it viable? People with lower GPAs do it to make up for their lower college gpas, so I don't see why it wouldn't work for mcat scores. It just seems like another way to distinguish yourself from other applicants and show stuff your mcat score may not have shown.

Master's programs are notorious for grade inflation. Tis is true of PhD programs as well, but the dissertation and research components make up for lack of academic rigor (as measured by grade spread). The fact is that you would be hard pressed to get a C in a masters course so your GPA is not very reliable compared to undergrad.
 
Master's programs are notorious for grade inflation. Tis is true of PhD programs as well, but the dissertation and research components make up for lack of academic rigor (as measured by grade spread). The fact is that you would be hard pressed to get a C in a masters course so your GPA is not very reliable compared to undergrad.
Are you talking about traditional master's programs or SMPs? Because there is no grade inflation in my SMP.
 
OP, master's making up for a low mcat score = :roflcopter:

It worked for me....you think they give ORM's with uGPA ~3.2 and 30 MCAT acceptances to great MD programs in the united states? My master's degree is definately what saved me....even recieved alot of praise for it at one of my interviews.

OP: it is a very expensive way to redeem your application. Don't take the MCAT unless you feel prepared to break a 30. I'd recommend waiting until you hit above 30 on your practice exams, consistently, before taking the MCAT. You can expect to perform a little bit lower than your practice scores on day of the actual exam.
 
Are you talking about traditional master's programs or SMPs? Because there is no grade inflation in my SMP.

Traditional masters.

It worked for me....you think they give ORM's with uGPA ~3.2 and 30 MCAT acceptances to great MD programs in the united states? My master's degree is definately what saved me....even recieved alot of praise for it at one of my interviews.

OP: it is a very expensive way to redeem your application. Don't take the MCAT unless you feel prepared to break a 30. I'd recommend waiting until you hit above 30 on your practice exams, consistently, before taking the MCAT. You can expect to perform a little bit lower than your practice scores on day of the actual exam.

How can you be so sure it was the masters? You may not being giving the rest of your application enough credit.
 
How can you be so sure it was the masters? You may not being giving the rest of your application enough credit.

I'm pretty strong in the EC section, I'll give you that, but as I understand it, if an applicant is uncapable of meeting a certain academic benchmark then no amont of long-term volunteering or unique extracurricular activities will cut it. Once again, I am not a URM and I think this is more evidence that the ~3.2 gpa and the 30 MCAT were not going to do the trick for my application. Also, at one of my interviews (I have only had 3 interviews) my interviewer commented that the entire admissions committee was impressed with how I've turned myself around as a student between finishing my bachelors degree and my grades in my masters program. So I don't think I am selling myself short on the rest of my application - the masters degree is what made my application relevant - the rest is just details 🙂 Either way you slice it, I'm going to be an MD!
 
thank you. such a pet peeve of mine, i was gonna reply with this too, but i guess i should of come in earlier. [shudder]

OP, master's making up for a low mcat score = :roflcopter:

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It worked for me....you think they give ORM's with uGPA ~3.2 and 30 MCAT acceptances to great MD programs in the united states? My master's degree is definately what saved me....even recieved alot of praise for it at one of my interviews.

OP: it is a very expensive way to redeem your application. Don't take the MCAT unless you feel prepared to break a 30. I'd recommend waiting until you hit above 30 on your practice exams, consistently, before taking the MCAT. You can expect to perform a little bit lower than your practice scores on day of the actual exam.

First, congrats on your acceptance!

I don't think I'd call a 30 on the MCAT low, and uGPA 3.2 is on the low end but not terrible. If you had great ECs, and had been out of undergrad for a while, it wouldn't surprise me at all that you got in without many issues. Having a masters that you apparently did well in makes it even less of a surprise.......but none of that matters at all, and I have the benefit of hindsight. Congratulations again!

Oh and I forgot to mention to the OP, good luck with the MCAT! Other than the first month of med. school, waiting for that score was probably the most anxious I've ever been. Hope it passes quickly for you!
 
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