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So, i basically failed all of my classes this semester. i handled myself poorly and i'm not afraid to blame myself. i never took advantage of tutoring and that wouldve helped majorly. my anxiety issues/ life issues is what kept me from coming to class towards the end of the semester; while on break i want to get myself situated and go see my counselor to talk about treatment.

i tried to think if there was another degree that i was interested in; i looked at all the programs that my school offers but none of them except biology/pre-vet interested me. i know i have to shadow a vet to see if this is really what i want, but i KNOW i would like this job; i'm just doing poor academically.

i had biology1, chem1, and math (pre calc) this semester. and i really had a hard time in math and chem; i'm not good at math but i know i need to get a tutor if this is the career that i really want. i love biology though; i think i failed because i wasnt studying as much and my lab grade. i'm going

i'm very angry at myself and will be making some changes about my study habits, time management and coping with stress.

my gpa was 2.08, but now i'm probably down to 1.73. yay for me
 
So, i basically failed all of my classes this semester. i handled myself poorly and i'm not afraid to blame myself. i never took advantage of tutoring and that wouldve helped majorly. my anxiety issues/ life issues is what kept me from coming to class towards the end of the semester; while on break i want to get myself situated and go see my counselor to talk about treatment.

i tried to think if there was another degree that i was interested in; i looked at all the programs that my school offers but none of them except biology/pre-vet interested me. i know i have to shadow a vet to see if this is really what i want, but i KNOW i would like this job; i'm just doing poor academically.

i had biology1, chem1, and math (pre calc) this semester. and i really had a hard time in math and chem; i'm not good at math but i know i need to get a tutor if this is the career that i really want. i love biology though; i think i failed because i wasnt studying as much and my lab grade. i'm going

i'm very angry at myself and will be making some changes about my study habits, time management and coping with stress.

my gpa was 2.08, but now i'm probably down to 1.73. yay for me

Bummer! I can sympathize!
It will probably take you a while to see this, but you still have a chance! I have been where you sit and you have already taken the first step...you have realized the problem. Now you have the power to fix it. I struggled with life and classes just like most of us. I think the real kicker is that I fixed it; people love the underdog. ADCOM may very well look at that "hole" and be disappointed, but make sure the next thing they see is that you recovered and made something of it. Find something that will make you stand out in your experience and figure out how to put a spin on how special/different you are!
Also, you can always plan on a masters or something to boost the GPA. I know a lot of students around my area use this as plan B if the first round left them empty handed:

http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Acade...Programs/MasterofLaboratoryAnimalScience.aspx

Maybe there is something like this near you...just an option...chin up and :luck:
 
Bummer! I can sympathize!
It will probably take you a while to see this, but you still have a chance! I have been where you sit and you have already taken the first step...you have realized the problem. Now you have the power to fix it. I struggled with life and classes just like most of us. I think the real kicker is that I fixed it; people love the underdog. ADCOM may very well look at that "hole" and be disappointed, but make sure the next thing they see is that you recovered and made something of it. Find something that will make you stand out in your experience and figure out how to put a spin on how special/different you are!
Also, you can always plan on a masters or something to boost the GPA. I know a lot of students around my area use this as plan B if the first round left them empty handed:

http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Acade...Programs/MasterofLaboratoryAnimalScience.aspx

Maybe there is something like this near you...just an option...chin up and :luck:

thank you for your words of encouragement.

it's just making me feel bad because i'm a junior and that bio and chem are my required courses and even though im retaking them, my old grades will still be on my transcript. i never planned to apply for vet school after graduation; i plan on doing a program like you mentioned to boost my gpa.
 
So, i basically failed all of my classes this semester. i handled myself poorly and i'm not afraid to blame myself. i never took advantage of tutoring and that wouldve helped majorly. my anxiety issues/ life issues is what kept me from coming to class towards the end of the semester; while on break i want to get myself situated and go see my counselor to talk about treatment.

i tried to think if there was another degree that i was interested in; i looked at all the programs that my school offers but none of them except biology/pre-vet interested me. i know i have to shadow a vet to see if this is really what i want, but i KNOW i would like this job; i'm just doing poor academically.

i had biology1, chem1, and math (pre calc) this semester. and i really had a hard time in math and chem; i'm not good at math but i know i need to get a tutor if this is the career that i really want. i love biology though; i think i failed because i wasnt studying as much and my lab grade. i'm going

i'm very angry at myself and will be making some changes about my study habits, time management and coping with stress.

my gpa was 2.08, but now i'm probably down to 1.73. yay for me

Sometimes it takes hitting what seems like a rock bottom to realize that there's an issue and motivate you to find a way to fix it. I've mentioned on this forum a few times that I had anxiety stemming from health issues through my undergrad years and pretty much it made everything in life hard. There is help out there and you DON'T have to live with anxiety (I say this because I've been there and I'm on the other side now). I think admitting there's an issue and committing to finding a solution is the first step ... you can only go up from here! Sending lots of :luck: your way.

Feel free to PM me anytime if you need a supportive shoulder 🙂
 
It's like reading my own story lol

I had/have anxiety issues and panic attacks and have had a prescription for xanax prn for the past year. I suffered through the first three years of undergrad because I was a coward and didn't want to admit that I had a problem that was interfering with my schooling. It's really good that you're taking control of your situation early! Definitely get help right away if possible.

I didn't disclose this information when applying since I didn't want it to reflect negatively on me. I have earned only A grades since seeking treatment, so I applied strategically. It seems like CSU and Penn look at apps as a whole and show compassion towards non-trads or those with 'shaky' transcripts and upward trends. Like mnkyrat mentioned, there are always SMPs and post-bacc programs that you could enter as well, but they are expensive.

Those are only three of your required classes, so your pre-req science GPA can still be salvaged. FYI Penn only requires three biology classes in 'vertebrate zoology, genetics, and embryology or comparative anatomy', so you can take those classes separately as well. You just have to try your best and you can still have a strong app!
 
I remember being overly stressed during undergrad with course overload. I gave my mentees these advices. Don't punish yourself for your grades. I know it can be difficult not to be angry and not to stress yourself even more, but mistakes happen and you can learn from them. Find your weak spots, seek help, and don't be afraid to seek help. You're pretty much paying the professors and TAs so use them at your convenience. Once you've done those two, and you still feel stressed and anxious, take a break. Reward yourself some time to relax your mind. Don't freak out if you have bad grades, you can take them again and get better grade :] Keep your head up!
 
Just to add to that... I know for a fact that many of us did pretty poorly in first year ( I mean i certainly did).
Don't let it get you down! I know it's depressing but you will also learn from this what classes you like (animal physiology for me) and what classes you don't like (OCHEM and physics).

You can then proceed in the next three years to specialize in what you like so you will enjoy and do well in every course you take!! That's all part of the reason why we go into university anyway! 😀 goood luck an don't give up!
 
I guess I'll be the cold heartless bastard: With a GPA of around a D+ to C, I think being angry at yourself is a good start. It's time to sit up and say "Wow. I'm f'ing with my future here, and I am slamming doors right and left before I've had a chance to step through them. Time to buck up and do something while I still can."

So. I think everyone telling you not to be hard on yourself is well-intentioned, but .... a healthy dose of "Oh **** I am going to start having major negative impacts on my life NOW" wouldn't hurt one bit.

Before you get too defensive, it's worth noting that I failed out of college (twice) after high school. It's only now (2 decades) later that I'm in vet school. I've had some awesome times and made the best of things by having a pretty decent career in the telecom field - but it seriously annoys me that I f'd around 20 years ago and ended up screwing myself left, right and backwards so that I ended up not really accomplishing what I could have otherwise done.

I'd *LOVE* to do a surgery residency. Or work in emergency medicine. Or oncology. Any of those three are absolutely awesome. But at my age and with the demands I have supporting a family, I can't stretch money that far, so I won't ever get to do those things.

Don't be like me. Don't back yourself into a corner. Get mad at yourself, go take advantage of <whatever> opportunities your school has. Don't make "tweaks" to your study habits - make downright major changes that force you to get it together.

G'luck. It's not too late, but with a GPA in that range you don't want to screw around any more.
 
I guess I'll be the cold heartless bastard: With a GPA of around a D+ to C, I think being angry at yourself is a good start. It's time to sit up and say "Wow. I'm f'ing with my future here, and I am slamming doors right and left before I've had a chance to step through them. Time to buck up and do something while I still can."

So. I think everyone telling you not to be hard on yourself is well-intentioned, but .... a healthy dose of "Oh **** I am going to start having major negative impacts on my life NOW" wouldn't hurt one bit.

Before you get too defensive, it's worth noting that I failed out of college (twice) after high school. It's only now (2 decades) later that I'm in vet school. I've had some awesome times and made the best of things by having a pretty decent career in the telecom field - but it seriously annoys me that I f'd around 20 years ago and ended up screwing myself left, right and backwards so that I ended up not really accomplishing what I could have otherwise done.

I'd *LOVE* to do a surgery residency. Or work in emergency medicine. Or oncology. Any of those three are absolutely awesome. But at my age and with the demands I have supporting a family, I can't stretch money that far, so I won't ever get to do those things.

Don't be like me. Don't back yourself into a corner. Get mad at yourself, go take advantage of <whatever> opportunities your school has. Don't make "tweaks" to your study habits - make downright major changes that force you to get it together.

G'luck. It's not too late, but with a GPA in that range you don't want to screw around any more.

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A little frustration helps, but can't let it be detracting. You can only beat yourself up so much before it does more hurt than help. I agree it's a good kick start, but eventually you need to turn that into motivation for the future and forgive your past mistakes otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts.
 
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Don't back yourself into a corner. Get mad at yourself, go take advantage of <whatever> opportunities your school has. Don't make "tweaks" to your study habits - make downright major changes that force you to get it together.

G'luck. It's not too late, but with a GPA in that range you don't want to screw around any more.

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True story 😛
 
So, i basically failed all of my classes this semester. i handled myself poorly and i'm not afraid to blame myself. i never took advantage of tutoring and that wouldve helped majorly. my anxiety issues/ life issues is what kept me from coming to class towards the end of the semester; while on break i want to get myself situated and go see my counselor to talk about treatment.

i tried to think if there was another degree that i was interested in; i looked at all the programs that my school offers but none of them except biology/pre-vet interested me. i know i have to shadow a vet to see if this is really what i want, but i KNOW i would like this job; i'm just doing poor academically.

i had biology1, chem1, and math (pre calc) this semester. and i really had a hard time in math and chem; i'm not good at math but i know i need to get a tutor if this is the career that i really want. i love biology though; i think i failed because i wasnt studying as much and my lab grade. i'm going

i'm very angry at myself and will be making some changes about my study habits, time management and coping with stress.

my gpa was 2.08, but now i'm probably down to 1.73. yay for me

You shouldn't be disappointed in yourself. As someone with diagnosed anxiety and epilepsy, and currently dealing with major depression, the fact that your seeking treatment should actually make you feel proud of yourself. It's totally understandable you are upset with your grades, and it would probably abnormal, especially as a pre-vet, if you weren't; and it's great you are admitting your wrongs. But don't be hard on yourself. Mental health is just as serious as physical health, and sometimes it's out of your control. Take this as a sign that maybe you should get the help you're seeking. Take one step at a time. Counseling, and perhaps medication, will only benefit you - I should know. Best of luck, and remember, "this, too, shall pass."
 
I'm going to drop a big truth turd on this thread...
Futurevet, from your previous posts it's apparent that you've been struggling with school for a while. I think you SERIOUSLY need to consider if you have what it takes to cut it in vet school. Your GPA was very low when you were just taking GenEd's and now that you're taking pre-reqs, it's not getting any better. You keep saying you're so dedicated and you're going to make huge improvements, but you seemingly aren't putting in the effort you need to. You admit that this is a problem with you not taking advantage of the extra help that's available to you. So if you know the problem, and have know the problem for at least almost a year now (according to your posting history), then why are you still not taking advantage?
If you can't hack it in undergrad without a huge amount of assistance, it might be time to look at another career or at least putting it off for a few years. And I will say the same thing again that I've said to you in your other threads, please get some real veterinary experience, because if for some reason you pick things up and get it together, you should probably know if you actually want to go into this field or not...
I'm not trying to be mean, I just think you really need to evaluate what you're doing at the moment.
 
I'm going to drop a big truth turd on this thread...
Futurevet, from your previous posts it's apparent that you've been struggling with school for a while. I think you SERIOUSLY need to consider if you have what it takes to cut it in vet school. Your GPA was very low when you were just taking GenEd's and now that you're taking pre-reqs, it's not getting any better. You keep saying you're so dedicated and you're going to make huge improvements, but you seemingly aren't putting in the effort you need to. You admit that this is a problem with you not taking advantage of the extra help that's available to you. So if you know the problem, and have know the problem for at least almost a year now (according to your posting history), then why are you still not taking advantage?
If you can't hack it in undergrad without a huge amount of assistance, it might be time to look at another career or at least putting it off for a few years. And I will say the same thing again that I've said to you in your other threads, please get some real veterinary experience, because if for some reason you pick things up and get it together, you should probably know if you actually want to go into this field or not...
I'm not trying to be mean, I just think you really need to evaluate what you're doing at the moment.

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I was really starting to think I was the only person who recognized the OP 🙄.
The only thing I see improved, futurevet90, is that you are finally, sort of, starting to take more responsibility for your own actions. Most of your other threads were just filled with blaming other people for your issues, so at least there is a hint of responsibility in this one.
Unfortunately you have to have the grades to even get into this profession, and your grades are one of the only ways schools will measure your potential success as a veterinarian. Vet schools don't require high GPAs for no reason. They also have reasons for requiring veterinary hours. You HAVE to take a good hard look at the daily life and decide if this really is for you. Lots and lots of people "KNOW" they want to be a veterinarian, and completely change their mind when they take a good hard, HONEST, look at the profession. You have a LOT of work to do, and I have yet to see your true dedication to helping yourself. There is nothing we can do for you if you can't learn to help yourself.
 
I'm going to drop a big truth turd on this thread...
Futurevet, from your previous posts it's apparent that you've been struggling with school for a while. I think you SERIOUSLY need to consider if you have what it takes to cut it in vet school. Your GPA was very low when you were just taking GenEd's and now that you're taking pre-reqs, it's not getting any better. You keep saying you're so dedicated and you're going to make huge improvements, but you seemingly aren't putting in the effort you need to. You admit that this is a problem with you not taking advantage of the extra help that's available to you. So if you know the problem, and have know the problem for at least almost a year now (according to your posting history), then why are you still not taking advantage?
If you can't hack it in undergrad without a huge amount of assistance, it might be time to look at another career or at least putting it off for a few years. And I will say the same thing again that I've said to you in your other threads, please get some real veterinary experience, because if for some reason you pick things up and get it together, you should probably know if you actually want to go into this field or not...
I'm not trying to be mean, I just think you really need to evaluate what you're doing at the moment.


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Indeed. Undergraduate success and all the hard work to get accepted into vet school is just another beginning to four even more stressful and academically challenging years to earn that DVM.

I like to think that dreams don't die, they simply change as we do. It's nothing personal and nothing to be ashamed of, but simply a fact to consider that some people just aren't cut out for professional school.
 
I'm going to drop a big truth turd on this thread...
Futurevet, from your previous posts it's apparent that you've been struggling with school for a while. I think you SERIOUSLY need to consider if you have what it takes to cut it in vet school. Your GPA was very low when you were just taking GenEd's and now that you're taking pre-reqs, it's not getting any better. You keep saying you're so dedicated and you're going to make huge improvements, but you seemingly aren't putting in the effort you need to. You admit that this is a problem with you not taking advantage of the extra help that's available to you. So if you know the problem, and have know the problem for at least almost a year now (according to your posting history), then why are you still not taking advantage?
If you can't hack it in undergrad without a huge amount of assistance, it might be time to look at another career or at least putting it off for a few years. And I will say the same thing again that I've said to you in your other threads, please get some real veterinary experience, because if for some reason you pick things up and get it together, you should probably know if you actually want to go into this field or not...
I'm not trying to be mean, I just think you really need to evaluate what you're doing at the moment.

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I was really starting to think I was the only person who recognized the OP 🙄.
The only thing I see improved, futurevet90, is that you are finally, sort of, starting to take more responsibility for your own actions. Most of your other threads were just filled with blaming other people for your issues, so at least there is a hint of responsibility in this one.
Unfortunately you have to have the grades to even get into this profession, and your grades are one of the only ways schools will measure your potential success as a veterinarian. Vet schools don't require high GPAs for no reason. They also have reasons for requiring veterinary hours. You HAVE to take a good hard look at the daily life and decide if this really is for you. Lots and lots of people "KNOW" they want to be a veterinarian, and completely change their mind when they take a good hard, HONEST, look at the profession. You have a LOT of work to do, and I have yet to see your true dedication to helping yourself. There is nothing we can do for you if you can't learn to help yourself.

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