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Who else struggles with being physically unattractive in med school? I wanna know if I have some peeps to relate to lol........ it's difficult for me.... especially for being in my mid 20's and never having a girlfriend before... and being a virgin. It's difficult.
 
Who else struggles with being physically unattractive in med school? I wanna know if I have some peeps to relate to lol........ it's difficult for me.... especially for being in my mid 20's and never having a girlfriend before... and being a virgin. It's difficult.

This could be a serious post. Are you sure you're unattractive? Body dysmorphic disorder maybe?
 
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Some people are late bloomers. If there is anything I learned from trauma clinic, it is that there is someone out there for everyone, even for those with a very high tattoo-to-teeth ratio. So even if you are unattractive (chances are you are average and just hard on yourself), someone will think you're great. You just have to keep looking. Once your confidence builds up, so will your attractiveness. The research shows that women are drawn to a sense of humor, friendliness, demeanor, etc...physical qualities rank far below that. Most of the men I've found irresistible were not attractive by conventional standards, but were incredibly confident and accomplished.
 
Who else struggles with being physically unattractive in med school? I wanna know if I have some peeps to relate to lol........ it's difficult for me.... especially for being in my mid 20's and never having a girlfriend before... and being a virgin. It's difficult.
I'm a few years older than you, here's what I've learned:

Many men in their 20s look like as well as act like boys (i.e., immaturely). Many or probably most women don't like this and so won't want to be in a long-term relationship with these kinds of men. That's completely fair because why should they be with a boy rather than a man?

However, by the time you're around age 30, you should be a physician (resident, or even better, attending). Then you'll have a job. You'll be making money. You'll start to have a different outlook on life than you had in your mid-20s. You'll start dressing more professionally, acting more professionally, thinking more professionally, etc. In other words, you'll start to grow up and become a man. A real man. And that's what a good woman wants: a real man, not a boy.

But the hardest part is waiting. You have to be patient. I remember playing basketball as a kid. I wanted so badly to grow up and be tall enough to dunk. I'd ask my mom or dad to measure my height almost every night. I just couldn't wait to grow taller! But my mom told me that I just had to be patient. I had to keep practicing my basketball skills, keep playing, keep improving myself, and not worry about how tall I was. She was right. Then one day, I found I was tall enough to dunk, and I did! It was a happy day for me.

So, too, you just have keep your eye on the goal: doing well in med school, graduating med school, matching into a residency, becoming a doctor. Once these things start to fall into place, then you'll notice yourself changing in how you think and behave as well. That's when women will want you. And when you're a doctor, trust me, you'll have your pick of women to choose from. At least it worked for me, and if it worked for a skinny-boned, freckle-faced little boy like me, then I'm sure it'll work for you as well!
 
I'm a few years older than you, here's what I've learned:

Many men in their 20s look like as well as act like boys (i.e., immaturely). Many or probably most women don't like this and so won't want to be in a long-term relationship with these kinds of men. That's completely fair because why should they be with a boy rather than a man?

However, by the time you're around age 30, you should be a physician (resident, or even better, attending). Then you'll have a job. You'll be making money. You'll start to have a different outlook on life than you had in your mid-20s. You'll start dressing more professionally, acting more professionally, thinking more professionally, etc. In other words, you'll start to grow up and become a man. A real man. And that's what a good woman wants: a real man, not a boy.

But the hardest part is waiting. You have to be patient. I remember playing basketball as a kid. I wanted so badly to grow up and be tall enough to dunk. I'd ask my mom or dad to measure my height almost every night. I just couldn't wait to grow taller! But my mom told me that I just had to be patient. I had to keep practicing my basketball skills, keep playing, keep improving myself, and not worry about how tall I was. She was right. Then one day, I found I was tall enough to dunk, and I did! It was a happy day for me.

So, too, you just have keep your eye on the goal: doing well in med school, graduating med school, matching into a residency, becoming a doctor. Once these things start to fall into place, then you'll notice yourself changing in how you think and behave as well. That's when women will want you. And when you're a doctor, trust me, you'll have your pick of women to choose from. At least it worked for me, and if it worked for a skinny-boned, freckle-faced little boy like me, then I'm sure it'll work for you as well!

B-b-b-but what if I never grew tall 🙁
 
I'm a few years older than you, here's what I've learned:

Many men in their 20s look like as well as act like boys (i.e., immaturely). Many or probably most women don't like this and so won't want to be in a long-term relationship with these kinds of men. That's completely fair because why should they be with a boy rather than a man?

However, by the time you're around age 30, you should be a physician (resident, or even better, attending). Then you'll have a job. You'll be making money. You'll start to have a different outlook on life than you had in your mid-20s. You'll start dressing more professionally, acting more professionally, thinking more professionally, etc. In other words, you'll start to grow up and become a man. A real man. And that's what a good woman wants: a real man, not a boy.

But the hardest part is waiting. You have to be patient. I remember playing basketball as a kid. I wanted so badly to grow up and be tall enough to dunk. I'd ask my mom or dad to measure my height almost every night. I just couldn't wait to grow taller! But my mom told me that I just had to be patient. I had to keep practicing my basketball skills, keep playing, keep improving myself, and not worry about how tall I was. She was right. Then one day, I found I was tall enough to dunk, and I did! It was a happy day for me.

So, too, you just have keep your eye on the goal: doing well in med school, graduating med school, matching into a residency, becoming a doctor. Once these things start to fall into place, then you'll notice yourself changing in how you think and behave as well. That's when women will want you. And when you're a doctor, trust me, you'll have your pick of women to choose from. At least it worked for me, and if it worked for a skinny-boned, freckle-faced little boy like me, then I'm sure it'll work for you as well!

Right on. Just be patient and observant. The opportunity for someone to come along will present itself soon enough, just make sure you can recognize it.
 
I am 100% uggo. I have a GF and feel confident (at least, never feel low confidence). If you are sad about asthetics, that is in your control! Go lift and run 5 days a week - you will easily reach 5/10 status no doubt. Facial asthetics alone cant hold back gym gains to minimum 5/10 average human.

There is hope OP - I promise. Even ugly short dudes have partners. Just get yourself to find a way to love yourself. Then you will grow up and stop caring.
 
This could be a serious post. Are you sure you're unattractive? Body dysmorphic disorder maybe?

Yeah I'm pretty unattractive. Sorry for the late reply. Like most of my classmates are way more attractive than I am and I don't fit in because of it. Especially with all of the cliques formed and stuff. At least I'm so busy that I'm distracted from it sometimes...
 
Some people are late bloomers. If there is anything I learned from trauma clinic, it is that there is someone out there for everyone, even for those with a very high tattoo-to-teeth ratio. So even if you are unattractive (chances are you are average and just hard on yourself), someone will think you're great. You just have to keep looking. Once your confidence builds up, so will your attractiveness. The research shows that women are drawn to a sense of humor, friendliness, demeanor, etc...physical qualities rank far below that. Most of the men I've found irresistible were not attractive by conventional standards, but were incredibly confident and accomplished.

I've been told that for many years since I was young and I'm getting closer and closer to 30 and here I am. Sorry about ranting it's just be bothering me quite a bit lately. Especially since a lot of my classmates are married and have kids.
 
A professional haircut and appropriately trimmed facial hair/smooth shave can get you 1/2way there. Start wearing appropriately fitting shirts and dress pants, nice shoes and smell and look clean. Accessories such as glasses, belt, ties should be relatively new and well fitting. Whiten your teeth and smile.

All those little things can make you more physically appealing, but nothing takes the place of confidence, a smile, posture and positive body language
 
A professional haircut and appropriately trimmed facial hair/smooth shave can get you 1/2way there. Start wearing appropriately fitting shirts and dress pants, nice shoes and smell and look clean. Accessories such as glasses, belt, ties should be relatively new and well fitting. Whiten your teeth and smile.

All those little things can make you more physically appealing, but nothing takes the place of confidence, a smile, posture and positive body language

Thanks I guess... this is the stuff everyone tells me
 
Apologies in advance if this comes off too harsh as that is not my intention. Genuinely curious - what sort of response are you looking for? You have gotten pretty solid advice and I say this as a person who suffered from some OCD **** and BDD type stuff for much of my life. Attractiveness is way not objective (although obviously we have people who are rewarded for being attractive in every realm of life) - I find it really hard to believe that there aren't at least a few people of your desired gender/sex identity who would want to go on a date with you given the opportunity. Not being standard attractive has not gotten in your way so far of being on your way to a career in a high status field, and it will not stop you from finding a partner if you learn to go about it the right way.

I think the stuff about confidence and body dysmorphic disorder is spot on. There's absolutely nothing that prevents people from finding (any) partner aside from hesitancy of putting one's self out there. An ex of mine (and still good friend) is a pretty busted up dude due to some horrible stuff that happened to him as a kid. He has an asymmetric face and messed up teeth. He has absolutely no problem picking up women because he doesn't care if he gets rejected (he says "the worst thing that happens is that i don't go on a date with her, which is what would happen if i don't ask, so there's nothing to lose") and that really ups his chances. I guess what I'm saying is that if anxiety and fear of rejection is really getting in the way, I would recommend talking that out w/ someone or at least really working to shift your frame. Being unattractive is not preventing you from having a girlfriend. Full stop.

Thanks I guess... this is the stuff everyone tells me
 
Who else struggles with being physically unattractive in med school? I wanna know if I have some peeps to relate to lol........ it's difficult for me.... especially for being in my mid 20's and never having a girlfriend before... and being a virgin. It's difficult.

Believe me, once people outside of med school know that you're going to be a doctor, you'll instantly become attractive.
 
Yeah I'm pretty unattractive. Sorry for the late reply. Like most of my classmates are way more attractive than I am and I don't fit in because of it. Especially with all of the cliques formed and stuff. At least I'm so busy that I'm distracted from it sometimes...
Med school is full of attractive psychically in shape people, my school has over 25 % of its applicant from cali so they are beautiful, tanned and in shape. But I rarely seen people choose friends based on looks in med-school mostly its due to how funny witty or how much your life experience gel with the group. Maybe the lack of fiends is more due to your low self confidence and lacking to put yourself out there.
 
I totally second hitting the gym and upping your wardrobe and personal hygiene (especially your smile).
 
Yeah I'm pretty unattractive. Sorry for the late reply. Like most of my classmates are way more attractive than I am and I don't fit in because of it. Especially with all of the cliques formed and stuff. At least I'm so busy that I'm distracted from it sometimes...

A large part of attractiveness is how you present yourself. Keep your hair cut, buy clothes that fits, shave or keep facial hair trimmed. If you're female, shave all facial hair....jk. If you're slim, buy dress shirts that don't look like you're wearing last weekend's tent. If you're fat, drop some poundage. If you have a big arse hairy mole on your face, get that mother cut off. Simple things can go a long way.
 
Also consider seeing a dermatologist or plastic surgeon if there's any quick fix to be done. They'll get you sorted out.
 
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Listen, buddy. It's time to stop feeling sorry for yourself, get fired up, and get shredded as fuaarrk.

I was a sad k*nt virgin loser just like you back in college. Then one day something snapped. I said "Enough of this ****!" I lost 35 pounds of fat and then gained 20 pounds of lean, sexy muscle (all natty). All of a sudden everyone was 'mirin. It's the strangest, most glorious feeling. Imagine driving down a busy street in a Lamborghini. That's basically how it feels to walk down the street as a ripped man or a sexy woman. The girls who used to walk by me like I didn't exist were all of a sudden going out of their way to talk to me...and in the extreme case, skipping the talking and literally jumping on me as if they were in heat. I kid you not. It was the time of my life.

...Then I got engaged, stopped lifting, and lost all my gainz...but that's beside the point. The point is, I "made it," and it was all attributable to refusing to feel sorry for myself and channeling all my negative emotions into moving cold, hard iron until I looked like a more jacked version of Michelangelo's David. That could be you.

Oh and by the way, this was all before Tinder was a thing. If I had Tinder back then, it would have been pure insanity. You have all the tools at your disposal. Just do it.

 
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Listen, buddy. It's time to stop feeling sorry for yourself, get fired up, and get shredded as fuaarrk.

I was a sad k*nt virgin loser just like you back in college. Then one day something snapped. I said "Enough of this ****!" I lost 35 pounds of fat and then gained 20 pounds of lean, sexy muscle (all natty). All of a sudden everyone was 'mirin. It's the strangest, most glorious feeling. Imagine driving down a busy street in a Lamborghini. That's basically how it feels to walk down the street as a ripped man or a sexy woman. The girls who used to walk by me like I didn't exist were all of a sudden going out of their way to talk to me...and in the extreme case, skipping the talking and literally jumping on me as if they were in heat. I kid you not. It was the time of my life.

...Then I got engaged, stopped lifting, and lost all my gainz...but that's beside the point. The point is, I "made it," and it was all attributable to refusing to feel sorry for myself and channeling all my negative emotions into moving cold, hard iron until I looked like a more jacked version of Michelangelo's David. That could be you.



yeah that's quite literally what happened to me the summer of sophomore year in high school
one year I was the "flat-chested bitch", 5'8" tall and 126 lbs
and the next I was a 34D cup, measurements 36-26-36,
and I still am

all of a sudden it was like steering a Lamborghini around the curves
or living inside a bouncy castle!

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in any case, what was even better than that was hours of running, biking, lifting, stretching, dancing, getting toned & tight

basically, the OP needs a good diet, great workout routine, and an even better plastic surgeon to fix where God went wrong and Gucci can't camoflauge
that plus the sort of advice and ego stroking he's likely to get from SDN....
 
You've gotten some good advice here. Do what you can to maximize your looks. Lift heavy weights (get a personal trainer if you need help getting started). If you need to lose weight, then diet properly and add some cardio if you want. Simple stuff.

Get a short, clean haircut. If your hair is thinning, buzz your head.

If you can grow a beard, do that. If not, grow out some stubble.

Also, I really do not think you're being isolated from your classmates due to your looks. Maybe a few people would do that, but I can't imagine a large amount doing so. Only dinguses would do that. I'm sure there are some in your class. **** them. Associate yourself with the non-dinguses.


Lastly, you mentioned you're around 30 years old now. So, you're going to be a doctor in your 30's. Many decent looking women 21 and up would date you for that reason alone, as long as you look presentable and can handle yourself socially. You probably wouldn't want to marry them (you shouldn't worry about getting married anyway right now), but still.
 
Who else struggles with being physically unattractive in med school? I wanna know if I have some peeps to relate to lol........ it's difficult for me.... especially for being in my mid 20's and never having a girlfriend before... and being a virgin. It's difficult.

I think I can relate to a minor extent. While I don't think I'm a very ugly person, I usually do not feel attractive in any meaningful. So I think I can relate.
I've had an online girlfriend before, like in one of those online games. Yes you guys can laugh at me it's okay :-3
But not sure if that counts.
I'm a virgin too.

I read an article "am i too ugly to date" that resonated with me. It's written by a dude who writes advice columns. He calls himself Dr. Nerdlove. He's not a doctor though.

I personally don't see how being unattractive in medschool is all that different than being unattractive anywhere else. It kind of sucks. I try to make up for it in other ways. Everyone does to some extent, that's probably going to be the most common motivation for people who put makeup and people who go to the gym.

You're not alone. *hug*
 
I have a close friend that's in a very similar situation, however I've personal noticed girls that would be considered above his "level" start to really like him because of his confidence in social scenarios and his sense of humor. Unfortunately for him he has his standards set way to high and shrugs these perfectly nice girls off.

If you know fully well your standards arent your issue, confidence could very well be. Idk why but ive noticed that once a guy loses his v-card he gains plenty of confidence, not sure why this is may be some bs social expectation of guys that says if we arent having sex that we're worthless failures idk. Regardless, just acting confident even if you dont feel confident will do wonders for you.

Ive seen plenty of guys "glow up" from awkward small not so noticeable guys and become attractive and desired after they spent plenty of quality time in the gym focusing on bettering themselves. Ive seen the same thing with girls as well.

Once you do get your confidence up, just be careful not to take it to douchebagy-ness because that can happen as well lol.

Youll be fine OP, youre young and theres no reason to have an existential crisis over being single at this point in your life (or ever). But ive been there before as well, i could have sworn when i was 17 i thought i was going to be alone forever.

Just having friends that are girls can help you as well, talking to them and taking their advice on how to talk to girls you are interested in can do wonders.

Best of luck OP youve got this


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Start wearing appropriately fitting shirts and dress pants, nice shoes and smell and look clean. Accessories such as glasses, belt, ties should be relatively new and well fitting. Whiten your teeth and smile.

Thanks I guess... this is the stuff everyone tells me

Never underestimate the power of a dress shirt that fits like it is supposed to, and slim fit pants. I also agree with everyone else, hit the gym. Start lifting some heavy arse weights
 
While I agree with what others have said in here, I caution you to not obsess over looks. There are plenty of gym rats out there with the exact same level of insecurity who end up scaring all women away because of obnoxious personality not understanding why girls they tried to game left them "to the bathroom" despite their looks.

I think it's more important to develop a sense of identity by exploring things that you enjoy and that are meaningful to you. What are your interests? What do you care about? I workout a lot and love crossfit, never stopped for a day even after being in relationship for years or at any point in med school. I like Latin dance, so Ive taken classes and now I even volunteer to help teach it without trying to pick up women. If you are religious or part of some ethnic community, you may want to reconnect with that.

And just taking interest in people around and be willing to help will broaden your social circles and make you confident without making it feel like you're forced to "fake it until you make it".


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I think I can relate to a minor extent. While I don't think I'm a very ugly person, I usually do not feel attractive in any meaningful. So I think I can relate.
I've had an online girlfriend before, like in one of those online games. Yes you guys can laugh at me it's okay :-3
But not sure if that counts.
I'm a virgin too.

I read an article "am i too ugly to date" that resonated with me. It's written by a dude who writes advice columns. He calls himself Dr. Nerdlove. He's not a doctor though.

I personally don't see how being unattractive in medschool is all that different than being unattractive anywhere else. It kind of sucks. I try to make up for it in other ways. Everyone does to some extent, that's probably going to be the most common motivation for people who put makeup and people who go to the gym.

You're not alone. *hug*

See, they just don't understand unless they're ugly themselves...
 
Who else struggles with being physically unattractive in med school? I wanna know if I have some peeps to relate to lol........ it's difficult for me.... especially for being in my mid 20's and never having a girlfriend before... and being a virgin. It's difficult.

Pardon the cliche, but it's all about confidence. If you approach the world with a confident attitude (even if you have literally nothing to back that confidence up), you will garner people's respect, trust, and affection.

The first step to convincing women that you're desirable is to convince yourself that you're desirable. It's much easier to sell something when you have full faith in its quality.
 
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