Inception

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i wanted to discuss some things about it but i dont want to spoil it for others
 
The complexity (and consistency) of the plot, the stories within stories, the special effects...it was the most incredible movie I've ever seen. Coming out of there felt like I did when I saw the Matrix for the first time multiplied by 1000.

If you want to talk about it, just put in your title something about spoilers so people who haven't seen it yet won't click on it.
 
Totally agree. It was extremely clever and creative, and the consistency was key. Best movie I have seen in a long time!

MrBurns10 said:
The complexity (and consistency) of the plot, the stories within stories, the special effects...it was the most incredible movie I've ever seen. Coming out of there felt like I did when I saw the Matrix for the first time multiplied by 1000.

If you want to talk about it, just put in your title something about spoilers so people who haven't seen it yet won't click on it.
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Spoiler below -

Did anyone else think dicaprio was going to be in a dream the whole time with his still alive wife trying to pull him out of it? I could've sworn that would be the twist right at the end.

- Spoiler above
 
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first off i could barely understand what that japanese guy was saying and it was pretty frustrating especially beacuse im asian haha. anyway because i couldnt understand why that first architect was in the helicopter with saito and what happened with him.

secondly why was it necessary to go to the next level to save or rather give the "kick" to fisher when he could have been defibrillated in the previous level? i understand saito was already dead and there and i guess fisher was there because he died also but what would be the consequence of just reviving fisher in that 3rd level? and another thing is fisher was dead in the 3rd level which means he should have been alive in the 4th level (limbo) but he was dead on the woman's porch until he got shocked.
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Amazing movie. I was psyched since I saw the preview for this a few months ago. Nolan is on one hell of a streak. Memento, Insomnia, The Prestige, Batman x2, all great movies...and now this.

I walked outta the theater barely able to grasp what I'd just seen. I just kept saying over and over, "That was a CRAZY movie!" It's worth at least 2-3 rewatches.

One major gripe as someone posted above, though: at times it is IMPOSSIBLE to hear WTF Ken Watanabe was saying. They seriously should have subtitled him even though he was speaking English.
 
lakersbaby said:
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first off i could barely understand what that japanese guy was saying and it was pretty frustrating especially beacuse im asian haha. anyway because i couldnt understand why that first architect was in the helicopter with saito and what happened with him.

secondly why was it necessary to go to the next level to save or rather give the "kick" to fisher when he could have been defibrillated in the previous level? i understand saito was already dead and there and i guess fisher was there because he died also but what would be the consequence of just reviving fisher in that 3rd level? and another thing is fisher was dead in the 3rd level which means he should have been alive in the 4th level (limbo) but he was dead on the woman's porch until he got shocked.
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Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I remember him being alive on the porch and then being successfully defibrillated when Ellen Page throws him off the porch (the kick). This would make sense, but maybe I'm remembering incorrectly?
 
loveoforganic said:
Spoiler below -

Did anyone else think dicaprio was going to be in a dream the whole time with his still alive wife trying to pull him out of it? I could've sworn that would be the twist right at the end.

- Spoiler above
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SPOILER AGAIN

I didn't really try to think of what was going to happen (I did assume it was going to be some sort of happy ending). The actual ending was tremendous.
 
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Why I thought it was all a dream:

The asian guy asking him to take "a leap of faith" when first proposing the inception job.

The asian guy, after he is shot, tells Leo "I've been waiting for you" (or something to that effect), while in the warehouse on the first level.

Both lines were originally said by Leo's wife.
 
It was a good movie, maybe even "really good". But I thought it spent too much time explaining and re-explaining concepts which in itself isn't horrible, but the dialogue was pretty high school-esque.

Aside from the nitpicking, the other thing that REALLY bothered me in the movie is that they didn't spend any time describing the characters.
i.e. who the hell is ellen paige and why is she so special? Why should we care about this girl that just stumbled on the screen? Same for the other members of the team.
 
chicksdigdocs said:
...who the hell is ellen paige and why is she so special? Why should we care about this girl that just stumbled on the screen? Same for the other members of the team.
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She will be the "Neo" of the next stage in the movie saga:meanie:
 
lakersbaby said:
spoiler below -

first off i could barely understand what that japanese guy was saying and it was pretty frustrating especially beacuse im asian haha. Anyway because i couldnt understand why that first architect was in the helicopter with saito and what happened with him.

Secondly why was it necessary to go to the next level to save or rather give the "kick" to fisher when he could have been defibrillated in the previous level? I understand saito was already dead and there and i guess fisher was there because he died also but what would be the consequence of just reviving fisher in that 3rd level? And another thing is fisher was dead in the 3rd level which means he should have been alive in the 4th level (limbo) but he was dead on the woman's porch until he got shocked.
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The way I took it was that since Fischer was killed in the 3rd level of the dream, he would have to be found in the limbo and brought back, otherwise his mind would've been "lost", which would be problematic for their objective as it would need to be intact in the real world for him to dissolve the company.

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great movie...that hallway fight w/ no gravity in the hotel blew me away
 
Saw it this weekend and thought it was a great movie. 👍

Was definitely one of the more unique, interesting ones I've seen in a while. When I heard who the director was I figured it'd probably be good.

Definitely one I need to see another time or two before I wrap my head around some of the scenes/ideas.
 
Dimoak said:
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The way I took it was that since Fischer was killed in the 3rd level of the dream, he would have to be found in the limbo and brought back, otherwise his mind would've been "lost", which would be problematic for their objective as it would need to be intact in the real world for him to dissolve the company.

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That was my understanding as well. They discussed after Saito was shot that due to the effects of the sedative, you went to limbo instead of waking up (which I thought was kind of a cop-out, but whatever, it's a movie). He had to find Fischer in limbo before he could bring him back for the same reason he had to find Saito in limbo.
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Overall, fantastic movie. Probably will see it again.
 
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I was blown away by the film also. However, at first I really didn't realize how complex and well written it really was. If anyone cares, I found a pretty good guide at http://wegotthiscovered.com/2010/07/20/dream-a-little-bigger-a-guide-to-understanding-inception/

one interesting theory that it brings up and effectively argues is that saito never comes out of limbo, choosing to stay in limbo, but kill Cobb, sending cobb into a further limbo where he constructs his reunion with his family(isn;t it odd that in the final scene his kids are the same age and in the same position as they were for the rest of the film) Obviously there are holes in every argument, but that was the beauty of the film.
 
one interesting theory that it brings up and effectively argues is that saito never comes out of limbo, choosing to stay in limbo, but kill Cobb, sending cobb into a further limbo where he constructs his reunion with his family(isn;t it odd that in the final scene his kids are the same age and in the same position as they were for the rest of the film) Obviously there are holes in every argument, but that was the beauty of the film.
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That's perfect... Didn't think of that at all
 
Iapyx said:
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I was blown away by the film also. However, at first I really didn't realize how complex and well written it really was. If anyone cares, I found a pretty good guide at http://wegotthiscovered.com/2010/07/20/dream-a-little-bigger-a-guide-to-understanding-inception/

one interesting theory that it brings up and effectively argues is that saito never comes out of limbo, choosing to stay in limbo, but kill Cobb, sending cobb into a further limbo where he constructs his reunion with his family(isn;t it odd that in the final scene his kids are the same age and in the same position as they were for the rest of the film) Obviously there are holes in every argument, but that was the beauty of the film.
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thats a great website. this theory is also pretty interesting.

"What if everything from when Cobb meets Yusef is just a dream? Think about it, Cobb goes down to the basement with Yusef and sees all those people who are dreaming. It is here that he decides to try out Yusef’s chemical. This could be the last moment he is truly awake. When he ‘wakes up’ from the chemical he tries to use his totem but is interrupted by Saito. Cobb isn’t able to see if he is still dreaming or not. From this point on we never again see the top fall, technically we never know if Cobb awoke from that dream in Yusef’s place. For all we know, he could still be asleep."
 
Iapyx said:
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one interesting theory that it brings up and effectively argues is that saito never comes out of limbo, choosing to stay in limbo, but kill Cobb, sending cobb into a further limbo where he constructs his reunion with his family(isn;t it odd that in the final scene his kids are the same age and in the same position as they were for the rest of the film) Obviously there are holes in every argument, but that was the beauty of the film.
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That's certainly possible, but the film never mentions the presence of a deeper level of limbo beyond the initial one, and when Cobb and Mal were initially in limbo, getting killed is what supposedly got them out (of course it's possible that Mal is the one who actually got out by falling, which is mentioned as a powerful kick, while Cobb got left behind in the dream because he refused to do so thinking Mal had lost touch with reality).
 
Dimoak said:
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That's certainly possible, but the film never mentions the presence of a deeper level of limbo beyond the initial one, and when Cobb and Mal were initially in limbo, getting killed is what supposedly got them out (of course it's possible that Mal is the one who actually got out by falling, which is mentioned as a powerful kick, while Cobb got left behind in the dream because he refused to do so thinking Mal had lost touch with reality).
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That wasn't limbo, though, just a dream (which is why they were able to get out when they killed themselves), or more correctly probably a dream within a dream given the length of time they spent there. "Limbo" is the dream stage you go to if you're killed in a dream that's sedative-induced.
 
Don8455 said:
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Why I thought it was all a dream:

The asian guy asking him to take "a leap of faith" when first proposing the inception job.

The asian guy, after he is shot, tells Leo "I've been waiting for you" (or something to that effect), while in the warehouse on the first level.

Both lines were originally said by Leo's wife.
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also, when cobb goes to mombassa to recruit the forger (eames?), there are random people chasing him that look a lot like projections, and these are never explained... and then saito just happens to be waiting in a car that cobb jumps into at the end of the chase? and then eames jumps into it too? seems like a lot like other dreams that happen in the movie.
 
MrBurns10 said:
That wasn't limbo, though, just a dream (which is why they were able to get out when they killed themselves), or more correctly probably a dream within a dream given the length of time they spent there. "Limbo" is the dream stage you go to if you're killed in a dream that's sedative-induced.
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But in the movie, the other teammembers mention that Cobb's the only other guy who's been in limbo before (which I took as reference to the time he spent with Mal as he seemed to have that contemplating and recollective expression on his face when that was mentioned), and in the flashback, there weren't projections around despite them being in a fairly large "city". Also, I think they mentioned that the reason for going into limbo wasn't necessarily due to the use of a sedative, but rather a sufficiently strong sedative where the jolt of being killed wasn't enough to wake someone up, in which case they instead end up going into limbo.
 
Mista Suprane said:
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also, when cobb goes to mombassa to recruit the forger (eames?), there are random people chasing him that look a lot like projections, and these are never explained... and then saito just happens to be waiting in a car that cobb jumps into at the end of the chase? and then eames jumps into it too? seems like a lot like other dreams that happen in the movie.
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Cobb initially suggests that those were agents of the company that "hired" Cobb and his team to extract from Saito. But since Saito later reveals that this was actually an audition to do a job for Saito, I think it can be inferred that those were actually men working for Saito and that's how he knew where to pick up Cobb so they could talk about the Fischer job.
 
loveoforganic said:
Spoiler below -

Did anyone else think dicaprio was going to be in a dream the whole time with his still alive wife trying to pull him out of it? I could've sworn that would be the twist right at the end.

- Spoiler above
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SPOILER BELOW

There was a moment maybe like 3/4 of the way through, when they were talking about being stuck in the dream state, where I thought that maybe he was stuck. I really loved the ending and the symbolism and literal meaning of some of the words like "totem".
 
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