Input for changes to USMLE - All future test takers should read!

[mshheaddoc]

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I just got this through the AMA-MSS list and I'm passing it along.


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****Please Forward Widely****

Dear students, residents and fellows:

We have opened a discussion forum dedicated to the Comprehensive Review of USMLE. The forum was announced at a large, well-attended focus session at this year’s AAMC meeting. We have asked interested parties to share with us their questions and concerns about possible changes to the USMLE Program based on the themes and principles we have identified during our deliberations.

We hope that USMLE stakeholders will use this forum to begin a rich dialogue about the Comprehensive Review, from which we can create FAQs and address any areas we have not addressed thus far. We do not plan to respond to every individual post but will look for prominent themes and recurring inquiries.

Please ask the tough questions, and we welcome you to fully engage in the online discussion. As CRU/CEUP members, we will be monitoring the discussions closely, along with NBME and FSMB staff, and we very much look forward to your questions, opinions and suggestions.

You will need to register in order to login. The forum is here:

www.usmle.org/comprev

As always, please contact me at anytime if I may be of further assistance…

All the best,

pr


Peter Ragusa
University of Minnesota Medical School - Year 3
AMA-MSS Governing Council - Alternate Delegate
Committee to Evaluate the USMLE Program - National Student Representative
Step One Committee of the USMLE Program - National Student Representative
Initiative to Transform Medical Education Leadership Group - National Student Representative
cell: 651.373.2235
www.peterragusa.com

 

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I just got this through the AMA-MSS list and I'm passing it along.


*****************************************************

****Please Forward Widely****

Dear students, residents and fellows:

We have opened a discussion forum dedicated to the Comprehensive Review of USMLE. The forum was announced at a large, well-attended focus session at this year’s AAMC meeting. We have asked interested parties to share with us their questions and concerns about possible changes to the USMLE Program based on the themes and principles we have identified during our deliberations.

We hope that USMLE stakeholders will use this forum to begin a rich dialogue about the Comprehensive Review, from which we can create FAQs and address any areas we have not addressed thus far. We do not plan to respond to every individual post but will look for prominent themes and recurring inquiries.

Please ask the tough questions, and we welcome you to fully engage in the online discussion. As CRU/CEUP members, we will be monitoring the discussions closely, along with NBME and FSMB staff, and we very much look forward to your questions, opinions and suggestions.

You will need to register in order to login. The forum is here:

www.usmle.org/comprev

As always, please contact me at anytime if I may be of further assistance…

All the best,

pr


Peter Ragusa
University of Minnesota Medical School - Year 3
AMA-MSS Governing Council - Alternate Delegate
Committee to Evaluate the USMLE Program - National Student Representative
Step One Committee of the USMLE Program - National Student Representative
Initiative to Transform Medical Education Leadership Group - National Student Representative
cell: 651.373.2235
www.peterragusa.com

http://www.physicianscientists.org/Surveys/USMLE.html

Dear colleagues,

Several changes to the current structure of the USMLE exams have been
tentatively proposed. The goal of these changes is to improve medical
education, increasing the integration of basic and clinical science
education, by combining USMLE Step 1 and USMLE Step 2 into a single
exam. The application and use of exam scores versus the use of a
pass/fail scoring system in assessing student performance is also being
studied. These proposed changes are a result of a periodic review of
the examinations and NOT due to any specific concerns. Please see
summary at http://survey.physicianscientists.org/ for further information.

An 18 question multiple-choice survey
<http://survey.physicianscientists.org/> has been developed by the
student leadership of the American Physician Scientists Association
(APSA) <http://www.physicianscientists.org/> to generate as much student
input as possible regarding attitudes and perceptions of the tentatively
proposed changes. We are surveying medical students, residents and
fellows who have or will take the USMLE exams.

The survey <http://survey.physicianscientists.org/> should take you
approximately 5 minutes to complete. Please proceed to
http://survey.physicianscientists.org
<http://survey.physicianscientists.org/> for a more complete explanation
and a link to the survey.

Please forward this email to medical student and resident colleagues to
maximize the accuracy of our results.

NOTE: This survey was not developed nor specifically endorsed by the
USMLE, NBME, or any other affiliates of the USMLE. It is a student
designed survey.

Sincerely,

Eric Schauberger,
Chair, APSA Policy Committee
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[watcher34]

Wanted to wish all a happy easter and keep those studies up!!

 

[learnconcepts]

I just got this through the AMA-MSS list and I'm passing it along.


*****************************************************

****Please Forward Widely****

Dear students, residents and fellows:

We have opened a discussion forum dedicated to the Comprehensive Review of USMLE. The forum was announced at a large, well-attended focus session at this year's AAMC meeting. We have asked interested parties to share with us their questions and concerns about possible changes to the USMLE Program based on the themes and principles we have identified during our deliberations.

We hope that USMLE stakeholders will use this forum to begin a rich dialogue about the Comprehensive Review, from which we can create FAQs and address any areas we have not addressed thus far. We do not plan to respond to every individual post but will look for prominent themes and recurring inquiries.

Please ask the tough questions, and we welcome you to fully engage in the online discussion. As CRU/CEUP members, we will be monitoring the discussions closely, along with NBME and FSMB staff, and we very much look forward to your questions, opinions and suggestions.

You will need to register in order to login. The forum is here:

www.usmle.org/comprev

As always, please contact me at anytime if I may be of further assistance&#8230;

All the best,

pr


Peter Ragusa
University of Minnesota Medical School - Year 3
AMA-MSS Governing Council - Alternate Delegate
Committee to Evaluate the USMLE Program - National Student Representative
Step One Committee of the USMLE Program - National Student Representative
Initiative to Transform Medical Education Leadership Group - National Student Representative
cell: 651.373.2235
www.peterragusa.com

Dear NBME and staff,

I on behalf of many medical students/graduates just requesting you to reconsider over the changes for CS exam from July 17,2011 where we must type patient notes instead of optional like now.

Most of the students especially IMG's cannot type patient notes in 10min anxious moments. we think it is a test of Clinical skills which the test is meant for. I agree that in future all official things of patients must be exchanged via emails by residents. I agree but we have more time during that period but not like 10min. BUT this is exam and it must only test medical/clinical skills but not TYPING skills. we also feel that NBME may face problems during implementation of this new rule of mandatory typing patient notes from July 17,2011. The problems in the sense like technical issues and also many students may exhibit their emotions(crying etc) as they cannot type patient notes in that 10min which is less in that exam tension. Many are not used to type fast in that 10min. At least you increase time for 15min for typing notes.

We are NOT demanding to take back NBME decision but its a humble request to reconsider and let it be as of now like optional for writing patient notes. If this new rule gets implemented then we have to go for TYPING classes as many are NOT comfortable with computer typing.

ITS JUST A HUMBLE REQUEST BUT NOT A DEMAND. we finally request to think over it as exam is meant to test clinical skills but not computer skills.

From July 17, 2011 CS exam may become advantage to exam takers who are good at typing but disadvantage to exam takers who are NOT good at typing patient notes over computer. Correct me if am wrong but these are just our opinions. Thank u

Lets discuss this issue over here. Thank u SDN for giving this oppurtunity and all forum members.

Regards

 

[DRJJ1]

dear nbme and staff,

i on behalf of many medical students/graduates just requesting you to reconsider over the changes for cs exam from july 17,2011 where we must type patient notes instead of optional like now.

Most of the students especially img's cannot type patient notes in 10min anxious moments. We think it is a test of clinical skills which the test is meant for. I agree that in future all official things of patients must be exchanged via emails by residents. I agree but we have more time during that period but not like 10min. But this is exam and it must only test medical/clinical skills but not typing skills. We also feel that nbme may face problems during implementation of this new rule of mandatory typing patient notes from july 17,2011. The problems in the sense like technical issues and also many students may exhibit their emotions(crying etc) as they cannot type patient notes in that 10min which is less in that exam tension. Many are not used to type fast in that 10min. At least you increase time for 15min for typing notes.

We are not demanding to take back nbme decision but its a humble request to reconsider and let it be as of now like optional for writing patient notes. If this new rule gets implemented then we have to go for typing classes as many are not comfortable with computer typing.

Its just a humble request but not a demand. We finally request to think over it as exam is meant to test clinical skills but not computer skills.

From july 17, 2011 cs exam may become advantage to exam takers who are good at typing but disadvantage to exam takers who are not good at typing patient notes over computer. Correct me if am wrong but these are just our opinions. Thank u

lets discuss this issue over here. Thank u sdn for giving this oppurtunity and all forum members.

Regards

i would check over the syntax and spelling before sending this off imo

 

[learnconcepts]

i would check over the syntax and spelling before sending this off imo

yes check for spelling errors even though i have edited later...I have also mentioned this on usmle official forum mentioned above in this thread..thanks bye

 

[slowlybutshelly]

I am a US citizen who got caught in a very unfortunate series of events at a NEW ENGLAND medical school in 1992. I was through 3 years when a scandal broke out. I had to continue my education at Ross University in the caribean. My undergrad was Duke 88. I did epi work in africa in the peace corps; my resume prior to 1992 was very good.

I passed Step1 in 2004. I passed step2 ck in dec 2005. I was burnt out and needed a break so i took it; but right when I was getting ready to take my (4th attempt at step2ck). my mother had a catastrophic fall; broke a leg , went into afib, has had two cardioversions to try to restore her heart to a normal rhythm. two months later my father almost died of pneumonia. two months later my brother had cavernous sinus thrombosis; with three immediate family members hospitalized I could not focus. Ross refused to grant me an extension and now I have suffered 4 failures at STep2ck. I am well into passing range now with a deadline of may 14th to pass step2ck within my 7 yr rule. Ross refuses to allow me the chance.

ECFMG does allow the 7 year rule to be reset; so that if I do not meet the step2ck deadline by may14th. the 7 yr rule restarts itself from the date I passed CS. which was dec 2006. so now I technically have through dec 2012 to retake step1 and take step2 again. But ross is refusing to even allow me to do that.

So I have to go to court and try to get the chance to retake step1 and step2 ck by dec 2012.

meanwhile my mother is having major pelvic surgery to stay alive and I am trying to go forward with a career. it is trying time of life.

needless to say, if I was still a US medical student I would have been able to enter th ematch without having passing step2ck scores. I would have been earning money, doing internship etc moving forward. Now because I am ECFMG i have to take step2ck by a 7 deadline.

I am just entering this thread here because I feel that
1. that i should not have had to be an ECFMG
2. That yes 7 years is enough time to pass 3 tests
3. but why is ECFMG so different than NBME?

IF i was a US medical student I would be allowed up to 6 times on each step exam to pass. but because I am a IMG..technically a US resident who got scoffed to the caribean to get back to my home state.

I am continuing on my road but it is not pleasant.

But it would make it easier if I could retake step1 and step2 ck in one exam by dec 2012.

presently i am looking for a school to sponsor me to retake step1 and step2 ck by 2012.

 

[pmick]

Your one and only option (if it even works) is to apply to a lower tier caribbean school and hope they accept you as a transfer student. If accepted, they will ask you for more tuition and will most likely make you pay for a whole year, even longer. Even if you did pass, it doesn't really help your situation since you won't be able to obtain a residency. These are just the facts, Shelly. There are too many red flags to consider your residency application seriously. In the end, there is only one person to blame for this whole situation and it is all on you. Its not on your ill parents, brother or the school that kicked you out in the northeast. Nor is it on Ross. They actually gave you a chance, but you may have squandered that opportunity. You need to assess the whole situation and be realistic about whether you will obtain a residency spot. Unfortunately, the answer to that is no.

 

[zoedog]

Has anyone registered with this forum site? I did and the forums are chock full of spam. It it legit? I am now regretting giving them my info...Nor did I find the forum in reference.