Internal Medicine Shelf

[Reborn07]

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What books did you use.

 

[abefromann]

75th percentile, Appleton and Lange, FA.

 

[mdphd2b]

What books did you use.

Books I used for IM shelf:
-Step-Up to Medicine (very complete, great for other rotations too)
-Case Files Internal medicine
-MCQ's: MKSAP2 and 3 CDs (same MCQs as books), also some (but not all) Kaplan Q-book/Q-bank IM

At my school, we need equal to or greater than 75 for Honors. I got a 76, so I'm happy 😳

Looking back, I would have liked to do even more MCQ's, maybe repeating MKSAP? The IM shelf vignettes were the longest I've seen, even compared to the Surgery shelf. Every pt had multiple co-morbidities (DM, smoker, COPD, blah...) It's weird...I finished the IM shelf right on time, while I finished the Surgery shelf ~15min early and thought it was easier!)

Good luck

 

[dentate_gyrus]

75th percentile, Appleton and Lange, FA.

Raw score in the 90's, used MKSAP. Seriously you could probably pass the shelf only knowing MKSAP's answers stone cold - it is that good. If I was back at the beginning of my 3rd year I'd hit Step Up to Medicine (awesome text) and MKSAP mercilessly and repeatedly. Then use uptodate for anything you encounter on the wards (i.e. Admit-->utdol.com-->write H&P-->utdol.com-->present to impressed attending). Cecil's essentials may good if you are just starting out - lots of fundamentals and actualy covers all of the shelf material. I hate all First Aid with a passion, you may be very different.

Dude, 76 for honors, nice. Honors are a black box at my school.

 

[Medstudentquest]

Books I used for IM shelf:
-Step-Up to Medicine (very complete, great for other rotations too)
-Case Files Internal medicine
-MCQ's: MKSAP2 and 3 CDs (same MCQs as books), also some (but not all) Kaplan Q-book/Q-bank IM

At my school, we need equal to or greater than 75 for Honors. I got a 76, so I'm happy 😳

Looking back, I would have liked to do even more MCQ's, maybe repeating MKSAP? The IM shelf vignettes were the longest I've seen, even compared to the Surgery shelf. Every pt had multiple co-morbidities (DM, smoker, COPD, blah...) It's weird...I finished the IM shelf right on time, while I finished the Surgery shelf ~15min early and thought it was easier!)

Good luck

Wow 75 for honors on the shelf? At my school, you need to get 80 on the shelf. We also use those RIME evaluations that are so long so you need to be pretty much perfect to get honors. Man I totally chose the wrong school!

 

[lord_jeebus]

Raw score in the 90's, used MKSAP. Seriously you could probably pass the shelf only knowing MKSAP's answers stone cold - it is that good. If I was back at the beginning of my 3rd year I'd hit Step Up to Medicine (awesome text) and MKSAP mercilessly and repeatedly. Then use uptodate for anything you encounter on the wards (i.e. Admit-->utdol.com-->write H&P-->utdol.com-->present to impressed attending). Cecil's essentials may good if you are just starting out - lots of fundamentals and actualy covers all of the shelf material. I hate all First Aid with a passion, you may be very different.

Bingo.

First do MKSAP3
Second, repeat MKSAP3
Third, read Step Up
Fourth, do MKSAP2
Fifth, do MKSAP3 again

 

[lord_jeebus]

At my school, we need equal to or greater than 75 for Honors. I got a 76, so I'm happy 😳

Arrrgh

Should've gone to Pitt (I almost did)

 

[nutcancer]

honored it with just casefiles

 

[Medstudentquest]

honored it with just casefiles

since we are comparing, what's honors at your school for the shelf?

 

[nutcancer]

i got a 90 on the shlef and my national percentile was 85.

 

[nutcancer]

but the important poitn here is that casfiles has everything you need

 

[Teejay]

I know this is not the right thread for this but what books are needed for Family Practice?

 

[Medstudentquest]

but the important poitn here is that casfiles has everything you need

Really? I have been reading Step up to medicine since it seems so complete, but I am having trouble remembering everything. I will start reading case files this week. Why do you think it has everything that's needed-are the questions on the shelf exam similar to the cases or what?

 

[nutcancer]

no, because when you go through a textbook like step up (and yes, its very textbook ish), you will forget the concepts. case files does a brilliant job of enforcing concepts, so you can think your way through tests. greatest invention ever = case files.

 

[nasdr]

i hear MKSAP 2 and 3 have different questions. which one(s) did you use, or does it matter? which is the gold standard that everyone references when they say, "use MKSAP."

thx. btw, someone asked about family medicine...all i know is that blueprints is way too basic. maybe case files?

 

[Sean2tall]

MKSAP for Students. That is all.

 

[arthrodisiac]

I disagree. I dont think mksap is even close to enough. I probably had a dozen ortho related questions, and the ortho questions in mksap were insufficient. I did usmleworld IM qbank and THAT helped. The mksap book is like 50 bucks, id rather spend that on uw if i did it again.

 

[Sean2tall]

Oops I didn't mean to make it sound like MKSAP is all you'll ever need. I was just answering the question that it is all I used. (I am a slacker)