Intro to Clinical Diagnosis shelf - what to study?

[morte7]

Everything I could find in this forum was at least 4 years old; can anyone who has taken this test recommend what book to buy, and how to prepare? This test seems pretty unpredictable regarding the level of detail/obscurity that could show up. Thanks

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[armybound]

I'd probably ask someone in the year above you at your school... not sure if anyone else's school tests the same way or on the same material.

We used Bates to learn the physical exam and common pathologic findings, but I wouldn't recommend it to study from. I just studied the Powerpoints that they had lectured us from for the course.

 

[morte7]

thanks. physical dx was re-vamped this year at our school and we are now taking the nbme shelf as our final. reviews for the pre-test book say it's overly-detailed and more relevant for the medicine shelf. wondering how i can be most comprehensive in my efforts. i anticipate that our lectures this year didnt cover everything that will show up.

 

[morte7]

Anyone? Review books? Relevant study material?

 

[Alvarez13]

Anyone? Review books? Relevant study material?

I wish I knew. Someone in the class ahead of us said to ready FA:Step II.

 

[2012mdc]

The faculty at our school told us not to worry about it and that there wasn't a good way to study for it.

I didn't study anything and did fine. Somewhere in the 700s. Caveat is that I took the shelf in the same time period as the path, micro, pharm, and psychopath shelf exams. I think the test is just very general so there's not a great source for it.

 

[SlickNickMD]

The faculty at our school told us not to worry about it and that there wasn't a good way to study for it.

I didn't study anything and did fine. Somewhere in the 700s. Caveat is that I took the shelf in the same time period as the path, micro, pharm, and psychopath shelf exams. I think the test is just very general so there's not a great source for it.

All I did was some pretest book and I did very well, it's not an exam you can really study for. Too broad

 

[Alvarez13]

So is mostly stuff we've seen in other classes before, slightly more clinic based, or do they want me to know every knee and ankle ligament test that ever existed?

 

[Mattchiavelli]

I took the NBME shelf a few years ago, basically reviewed all the boxes and tables in Bates and did fine. Every NBME shelf has like 10 example questions to give you a feel for the type of test it is, they're usually at a level where 25% of the questions are easier and 75% of the questions are harder type level.

I didn't know anyone that did poorly on the test and our intro to physical exam class was completely bogus.

 

[2012mdc]

I took the NBME shelf a few years ago, basically reviewed all the boxes and tables in Bates and did fine. Every NBME shelf has like 10 example questions to give you a feel for the type of test it is, they're usually at a level where 25% of the questions are easier and 75% of the questions are harder type level.

I didn't know anyone that did poorly on the test and our intro to physical exam class was completely bogus.

Are you talking about the pdf that has 20 questions for each NBME subject?

Myself and my classmates always thought those questions were much easier than the shelf exams and not very representative.

 

[morte7]

Thanks yall; sounds reasonable. I'm not too worried about getting through it; like yall said, I imagine it's kind of a capstone class, but I'm borderline and needing to do really well to get an A, not just get through it.

Anyone know if there are a ton of obscure physical exam signs? Like would a question tell me it found a Finkelstein's sign in a patient and expect me to remember what that is, or would they stick to more basic findings lik Murphy's, etc.