Is it true that programs can see match details of interviewed candidates?

[luckyt66]

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I have heard that programs can see where the candidates they interviewed matched after the match process. Would anyone know if that's true??

Thanks

 

[slappy]

Yes

 

[OldPsychDoc]

Yes--as long as we had them on our rank list.
(So yes, sometimes we can tell if we were lied to...)

 

[thomasina]

I am curious: since you can see where people on your rank list matched to, do you find that the competitiveness of applicants at your program roughly match up from program to program, i.e., more highly ranked applicants end up at competitive programs and lower-ranked applicants at less competitive programs? Or do you sometimes see highly ranked applicants match to what might be considered "less competitive" programs and vice versa?

 

[luckyt66]

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Yes--as long as we had them on our rank list.
(So yes, sometimes we can tell if we were lied to...)

And also see if you didn't match right?? Also do you still have to access to list year(s) later??

Thanks!

 

[TexasPhysician]

I am curious: since you can see where people on your rank list matched to, do you find that the competitiveness of applicants at your program roughly match up from program to program, i.e., more highly ranked applicants end up at competitive programs and lower-ranked applicants at less competitive programs? Or do you sometimes see highly ranked applicants match to what might be considered "less competitive" programs and vice versa?

Could you reword your question?

Competitiveness is based on difficulty to achieve/obtain something. If multiple top students are ranking anywhere #1, the program is by definition very competitive regardless of reputation.

I think what you are actually asking is whether reputation follows competition? If that is your question, that is not always true.

Once you reach the level of residency, the reputation of a training program plays almost no role in your future earning potential. Residents often choose a program based on location, family, friendliness of co-residents, lifestyle, research interests, elective options, etc.

Some programs in California may be absolutely awful by every metric, but competition could remain high due to popular location alone.

 

[OldPsychDoc]

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And also see if you didn't match right?? Also do you still have to access to list year(s) later??

Thanks!

Yes.
As long as I print it out and keep it on file. It might still be in our NRMP account indefinitely, but I've never bothered to check.

 

[3lefts]

Yes--as long as we had them on our rank list.
(So yes, sometimes we can tell if we were lied to...)

Interesting. I wonder if programs change their interviewing behavior for the next year based on this info?


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[MacDonaldTriad]

NRMP allows us to see anyone's match history if we know their name and school. We are required to look this up before hiring anyone. It can be very surprising to find some training completely missing from an applicant's CV. I have heard of State medical boards who have issued "cease and desist training" letters when they discover undisclosed training. A lot of states only allow a certain number of months training before they require licensure.

 

[TexasPhysician]

Interesting. I wonder if programs change their interviewing behavior for the next year based on this info?


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Yes. Duke PD specifically told me that they don't interview as many TX applicants as they are unlikely to leave the state.

 

[MacDonaldTriad]

You can take the boy out of Texas, but you can't take Texas out of the boy...

 

[northernpsy]

Or do you sometimes see highly ranked applicants match to what might be considered "less competitive" programs and vice versa?

Yes, this definitely happens. I can remember seeing examples of this the year that I was involved in my residency's applicant selection process and got to see where our applicants wound up matching.

 

[FlowRate]

I am curious: since you can see where people on your rank list matched to, do you find that the competitiveness of applicants at your program roughly match up from program to program, i.e., more highly ranked applicants end up at competitive programs and lower-ranked applicants at less competitive programs? Or do you sometimes see highly ranked applicants match to what might be considered "less competitive" programs and vice versa?

As I mentioned elsewhere, I interviewed two supremely qualified applicants who ended up matching at less prestigious programs. One went home, the other chose a modestly less competitive program that better fit her specific training/patient population interests.

 

[SeniorWrangler]

You can see it in their eyes, you're the backup school. It's like being on a pity date.

 

[MacDonaldTriad]

I think I have been on over a thousand pity dates. I think we should develop a no fault culture where either side can end an interview day at any point no questions asked. Sometimes it feels like when you are at a job interview and you realize in the first minute you would never take the job.