I heard great things about NYU's medical school, but I'm an undergrad student. Would you say the cost of NYU undergrad for pre med (55k/yr for me) is worth it over a school with a top 50 medical school? Would my opportunities at NYU be better as an undergrad than a state flagship ranked in the 50's?
Is NYU worth it?
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No. NYU is not worth it for undergrad unless money isn't a problem. They have a great medical school but their undergraduate programs are by no means impressive. I will admit that it seems like a super cool place to go to school though.
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I hear if you want to go to college to network with the right people, NYU is the place to be. Particularly, if you want to work in the arts or in finance.
However, if your goal is to be a physician stick with Cheap-State-U and save yourself 150,000 dollars.
However, if your goal is to be a physician stick with Cheap-State-U and save yourself 150,000 dollars.
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That's a good way to put it.
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No, NYU is not worth that price tag.
Hell, most schools are really not worth paying 55k/year...
Hell, most schools are really not worth paying 55k/year...
Not significantly, I'd wager. Especially for someone who aspires to go to medical school, where the playing field is pretty even.mdandphd said:
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True, but many of their arts programs are definitely top 10 (some are notably top 3). It seems like an awesome school and location, but it's just too pricey, and if money is a concern, then it's not the best place to be as a pre-med.
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I disagree here, you can network at almost ANY school.
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NYU is never a good deal for any students who wish to further pursue education after college. NYU seldom offers students scholarships and grants, and that is exactly the reason why I chose not to attend NYU as a premed. Having hundred thousands of dollars of debt after med school is enough, and I certainly don't want my undergrad debt to compound to that already astronomical amount.
NYU is a great school if you'd like to stop your education at BS or BA.
NYU is a great school if you'd like to stop your education at BS or BA.
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Indeed, schools with big names tend to have the people who can get you ins, mostly in the business world, but in some other cases too.
If you planned on studying finance (maybe as a backup? heh) then it would definitely be worth it. If you're only looking at medicine, as long as you have access to a good state school with sufficient opportunities and research going on, you're fine there.
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I went to NYU undergrad...as a pre med it sucks. I got scholarship so it wasn't so bad - but it's just tons of students and its hard to stand out
For a non-terminal degree such as medicine, I would advise going to a smaller school if possible - networking is much more important at later stages of your medical education, like once you are actually in medical school.
NYU was a great place to go to school but for pre med I wouldn't recommend if you are paying full price
For a non-terminal degree such as medicine, I would advise going to a smaller school if possible - networking is much more important at later stages of your medical education, like once you are actually in medical school.
NYU was a great place to go to school but for pre med I wouldn't recommend if you are paying full price
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I know what you mean! So far all of my class lectures have had ~300 people at the beginning of the semester and one of the intro geology classes I was taking as a gen ed had 750 kids in the lecture 😎
A bit hard to stand out to a professor during these sorts of classes but it's certainly possible if you try hard.... Gotta sit in that front row to be noticed though
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If you want finance connections, I'm pretty sure most state schools, especially Penn State, can help you out in that department.
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You can't seriously think that Penn State is even competitive with NYU for financial connections. NYU is a prestigious university in NYC, it's on par with ivy leagues for business connections.
Easily top 5 for MBA programs too
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I know this is a couple years old, but it's still relevant:
Consulting to seek feedback from large public and private companies in nearly 30 industries, including finance, consulting, technology, engineering, marketing and health care, as well as nonprofits and government agencies.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704358904575477643369663352.html
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It makes sense all of the schools you have listed are large state schools with a lot of undergrads so a lot of companies go to recruit these people.
Its the quality not quantity in finance Bain Capital, Goldman Sachs go to top schools like NYU Stern and Wharton NOT Texas A&M and Penn State.
To Arizona State [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7RmG4IM1dU[/YOUTUBE]
Its the quality not quantity in finance Bain Capital, Goldman Sachs go to top schools like NYU Stern and Wharton NOT Texas A&M and Penn State.
To Arizona State [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7RmG4IM1dU[/YOUTUBE]
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I know this is a couple years old, but it's still relevant:
Consulting to seek feedback from large public and private companies in nearly 30 industries, including finance, consulting, technology, engineering, marketing and health care, as well as nonprofits and government agencies.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704358904575477643369663352.html
Yeah, seriously. Large state schools will have lots of smaller companies in the area that wil come for the large student population. That has nothing to do with quality. ASU at #5, really? ASU is widely known as a party school that is fairly academically lax (not to say you can't do well coming out of ASU, but it has zero name value)
Sure you can, but if you want to get an investment banking job at Goldman Sachs you probably have a much stronger chance at NYU then you do at montana state university.
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Alright guys, if you think an MBA is the end all and be all in life (surprise, everyone has an MBA), and you live, breathe, and eat money....
Then go waste 50k+ a year just for a "superior" connection to the finance world from a school that I hardly doubt has quite the "ivy prestige" everyone claims it to have for undergrad. So many state schools can teach the same garbage about trading money, I can go read a book and do the same thing on my laptop if I wanted to.
Then go waste 50k+ a year just for a "superior" connection to the finance world from a school that I hardly doubt has quite the "ivy prestige" everyone claims it to have for undergrad. So many state schools can teach the same garbage about trading money, I can go read a book and do the same thing on my laptop if I wanted to.
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You sound like an expert on this subject and not just someone who went to a state school
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I'm not an expert, I just know that there are great public schools out there that everybody always forgoes for these private schools.
It's also funny how these finance companies like to hire engineers, because they realize how smart they are and how easy it is to teach them this stuff:
"Oh, should I take a chance with this money, hmmm" [Market research, market research, market research, some accounting, then acting condescending around NYCity because I can, more market research] "Profits! Wow, my life is really worth living, I love money!! - err, I mean my job!!!"
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Stereotypical "better than thou" engineering attitude. C'mon.
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Haha it's more "better than finance people who think they are better than thou." Everyone is entitled to his opinion.
But I would go to NYU just for the nightlife though, my argument was just about the connections.
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I think both schools will set you up for a great career at the end of the four years. NYU connections aren't worth a 200k undergrad I will agree with you there. I'm definitely not criticizing public universities. I think they're great and penn state is a super good school.
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Sounds like someone goes to a state school
Oh, peasants...
The view is pretty nice from my ivory (ivy??) tower, by the way. 😉 No, but seriously 55k/year anywhere is crazy expensive...
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Sounds like someone goes to a state school
Oh, peasants...
The view is pretty nice from my ivory (ivy??) tower, by the way. 😉 No, but seriously 55k/year anywhere is crazy expensive...
I'm using the money I save to buy as much oil commodities and gold as I can. In a couple of years, I'll be making bank.
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They are too volatile. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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But yet...for med school definitely go with your cheapest option and get straight A's. If you are a city resident I would definitely say go to Hunter or CCNY. Save sooo much money, live in NYC, and decent pre-med programs.
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NYU is worth going if you know exactly what you want to do. Otherwise, its very difficult to stand out here since there are a lot of competitive, smart kids. The name is prestigious and will help on resumes if you are seeking a medically related job as NYC'ers seem to respect NYU a lot (a top 15 hospital, Bellevue affliations, the pre med profs are top notch). Also, the profs are very well connected and are more than willing to help you out provided you go to their office hours, etc
The pre med classes here also prep you very well. The majority of my NYU friends got mcats ranging from 30-41; they almost all attribute that to the tough pre med classes (orgo here is a killer!); they also got into MD granting schools (3.3+); i bet if you got this gpa at a state school, you would have a tougher time getting in.
However, if you can get more aid from a school of NYU caliber or higher (Michigan, Emory, Columbia, etc), I would suggest going there. Otherwise, with all things equal, NYU is definitely worth the fees.
The pre med classes here also prep you very well. The majority of my NYU friends got mcats ranging from 30-41; they almost all attribute that to the tough pre med classes (orgo here is a killer!); they also got into MD granting schools (3.3+); i bet if you got this gpa at a state school, you would have a tougher time getting in.
However, if you can get more aid from a school of NYU caliber or higher (Michigan, Emory, Columbia, etc), I would suggest going there. Otherwise, with all things equal, NYU is definitely worth the fees.
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Paying $55k/year for an undergrad degree that isn't H/P/Y. 
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I agree that only those schools in addition to MIT, Stanford, and several others are worth paying that much.
All I was saying is that going to NYU will help you in terms of resume buildling (not in debt reduction 😛) as long as you know exactly what you want to get from the school. Otherwise, its very easy to fall through the cracks at this school which can result in a poor investment.
All I was saying is that going to NYU will help you in terms of resume buildling (not in debt reduction 😛) as long as you know exactly what you want to get from the school. Otherwise, its very easy to fall through the cracks at this school which can result in a poor investment.
The bolded is all true at my state school as well.
What isn't true is the red part. My aunt is on the interviewing committee for her department for a major tech company and she routinely picks NYU grads over our state school grads. Even though engineering programs at our flagship state school have somewhat similar stats to NYU. My aunt didn't go to our state school and doesn't know that. Until I showed her, all she knew was that NYU is a better school. Most pre-meds don't make it past organic chemistry. Nothing wrong with a big name school as a fallback.
