is there any schools that has acceptance advantages to asians?

[Notoriousjae]

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Well because on average, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and Taiwanese do well academically and they tend to have more money than Hmongs and Cambodians who tend to more than often, live in low-income areas.

I never said that Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and taiwanese never live in poverty or a hard life. There are many who do.

But many Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians tend to be at the lower wrung of the ladder in the "Asian hierarchy" when it comes to socio-economic comparisons.

its like i said armoredtooth, you're making a statement purely based on hearsay or based on your experiences alone. I have vietnamese and laotian friends and they are not in any way socio-economically disadvantaged. Instead they seem to be at much more of an advantage than some of my chinese, korean or japanese friends. It would be nice to have some solid evidental statistics to back up your statement without which it would be just your opinion and not a fact.

 

[ArmoredTooth]

its like i said armoredtooth, you're making a statement purely based on hearsay or based on your experiences alone. I have vietnamese and laotian friends and they are not in any way socio-economically disadvantaged. Instead they seem to be at much more of an advantage than some of my chinese, korean or japanese friends. It would be nice to have some solid evidental statistics to back up your statement without which it would be just your opinion and not a fact.

Seems like you don't want to listen to me, but whatevers.

It's true that Koreans, Chiense and Japaense are more socio-economically successful than Cambodians and Laos who tend to live in poverty.

 

[xxxTheDonxxx]

its like i said armoredtooth, you're making a statement purely based on hearsay or based on your experiences alone. I have vietnamese and laotian friends and they are not in any way socio-economically disadvantaged. Instead they seem to be at much more of an advantage than some of my chinese, korean or japanese friends. It would be nice to have some solid evidental statistics to back up your statement without which it would be just your opinion and not a fact.

In general, it is safe to say that the koreans, the chinese,and the japanese are more financially stable than the vietnamese (if I may, i'll break it down even further... the Vietnamese people are more finacially solid than Loatians). This is generally true for most places in the United States. The reason why the Chinese, the koreans, and the Japs are in a better fiancial shape is because they came here earlier than most of the vietnamese. Most of the vietnamese people came here after '75 (after the war), and that's pretty recent. They all had to start over fresh. Also, it has to do with the work ethics, japanese had an extremely strong work ethic, so does the koreans and the chinese. When looking at situations like this..i think we need to think about it in a broad perspective. You just can't point to a certain situation and disprove a theory.

 

[gator1210]

this thread has so many generalizations...its pointless

Africans, from Africa, are the least financially stable

then indian people.

Many probably think Asians work harder, but thats only bc most are immigrants and try really hard to succeed and get their visa.

 

[xxxTheDonxxx]

quote from the US census press releases "Median household income differed greatly by Asian group. For Asian Indians, for example, the median income in 2004 was $68,771; for Vietnamese-Americans, it was $45,980". and Yes, asian is the richest race in the US, wow somebody is making a crapload of money. So as you can see, vietnamese-americans are not as financially secured as the other groups, because they just got here. Take a look at the fiancial status for the different asians in 1980

Median household (dollars)
$22,517 Japanese 1.40
$21,926 Filipino 1.36
$20,598 AsIndian 1.28
$20,231 Asian 1.26
$19,966 Asian/PI 1.24 1.13
$19,561 Chinese 1.21
$19,223 Pakistani 1.19
$18,145 Korean 1.13
$17,680 White 1.10 1.00
$17,168 Indonesian 1.07
$16,894 Guamanian 1.05
$16,841 US 1.04
$16,593 Hawaiian 1.03
$16,250 Tongan 1.01
$16,136 Polynesian 1.00
$16,120 Thai 1.00
$16,109 PacIsld -1.00
$15,960 Micronesian -1.01
$15,604 Melanesian -1.03
$13,848 Samoan -1.16
$13,502 Hispanic -1.19 -1.30
$12,549 Vietnamese -1.28
$12,256 Native Am -1.32
$10,943 Black -1.47 -1.61
$9,306 Cambodian -1.73
$5,277 Laotian -3.05
$4,977 Hmong -3.24

 

[xxxTheDonxxx]

this thread has so many generalizations...its pointless
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look at the stats before you ..yourself... make a generalization my friend!

 

[tonydds]

I think different types of asians' socio-economical class and income is a result of what part of life they place more emphasis on. Asians higher up on your so-called "asian heiarchy" such as chinese and japenese tend to place more emphasis on their education and career then vietnamese or laotians. Therefore they tend to pursue their career further away from their family hence potentially going to much better schools. Vietnamese tend to be closer to their family and most likely work on some business with their families. Hence, a local university would normally suffice as a source of higher education. A person that goes to the ivy leagues would more likely be offered higher paying positions then a person who goes to a local university. Most chinese people look for these big named schools whereas most vietnamese can care less. Of course you always have the exceptions in both cases. I also don't believe in those stats that was posted earlier. I don't remember the last time a vietnamese person reported all of their income. Most vietnamese are business owners that make way more then they claim (nail shops, convenience stores, land owners etc.). chinese people tend to work in higher status jobs and usually report all of their income. Stats are only as good as the source that records them. Most things can not be concluded with just numbers. A simple click, copy, and paste does not count as researching. To analyze something like this, alot of disciplines of social science has to be researched. Interesting how asians compare themselves with other asians no wonder why you guys are so racist against other races.

 

[Notoriousjae]

I think different types of asians' socio-economical class and income is a result of what part of life they place more emphasis on. Asians higher up on your so-called "asian heiarchy" such as chinese and japenese tend to place more emphasis on their education and career then vietnamese or laotians. Therefore they tend to pursue their career further away from their family hence potentially going to much better schools. Vietnamese tend to be closer to their family and most likely work on some business with their families. Hence, a local university would normally suffice as a source of higher education. A person that goes to the ivy leagues would more likely be offered higher paying positions then a person who goes to a local university. Most chinese people look for these big named schools whereas most vietnamese can care less. Of course you always have the exceptions in both cases. I also don't believe in those stats that was posted earlier. I don't remember the last time a vietnamese person reported all of their income. Most vietnamese are business owners that make way more then they claim (nail shops, convenience stores, land owners etc.). chinese people tend to work in higher status jobs and usually report all of their income. Stats are only as good as the source that records them. Most things can not be concluded with just numbers. A simple click, copy, and paste does not count as researching. To analyze something like this, alot of disciplines of social science has to be researched. Interesting how asians compare themselves with other asians no wonder why you guys are so racist against other races.

amen..

 

[xxxTheDonxxx]

I think different types of asians' socio-economical class and income is a result of what part of life they place more emphasis on. Asians higher up on your so-called "asian heiarchy" such as chinese and japenese tend to place more emphasis on their education and career then vietnamese or laotians. Therefore they tend to pursue their career further away from their family hence potentially going to much better schools. Vietnamese tend to be closer to their family and most likely work on some business with their families. Hence, a local university would normally suffice as a source of higher education. A person that goes to the ivy leagues would more likely be offered higher paying positions then a person who goes to a local university. Most chinese people look for these big named schools whereas most vietnamese can care less. Of course you always have the exceptions in both cases. I also don't believe in those stats that was posted earlier. I don't remember the last time a vietnamese person reported all of their income. Most vietnamese are business owners that make way more then they claim (nail shops, convenience stores, land owners etc.). chinese people tend to work in higher status jobs and usually report all of their income. Stats are only as good as the source that records them. Most things can not be concluded with just numbers. A simple click, copy, and paste does not count as researching. To analyze something like this, alot of disciplines of social science has to be researched. Interesting how asians compare themselves with other asians no wonder why you guys are so racist against other races.

Mickey Mouse can come up with better thoeries than you. Do your own research! That was a dumba$$ generalization right there..."most vietnamese own nail shop business", you need to travel a little bit my friend. All of us tried to be honest and report all of own income, can't say the vietnamese aren't honest...that's racist to me. Further more, the vietnamese tradition is about the great emphasis on education since our great ancestors. "Japanese and Chinese emphasize more"...what are you talking about? read a book! Another one of your dumba$$ comment is "most vietnamese careless about ivy league schools", go and search to see for yourself how many viets are at harvard and other ivy league schools." Do some research (and please do cut and paste, it's better than none), before you put something so ignorant up!

 

[Yen]

Every country has their own history that contributes to the financial statistics today. For example, cambodians suffered a genocide in the 70's that killed off over a million cambodians. Some escaped the genocide only to arrive to America with no money at all. However, I'm not worried about disadvantages...I'm just happy to even be alive and to have the career opportunities that'll bring my family out of poverty.

 

[hermit]

is there any schools that has acceptance advantages to asians?

Try beauty schools with a reputable manicure/pedicure program.

 

[tonydds]

Mickey Mouse can come up with better thoeries than you. Do your own research! That was a dumba$$ generalization right there..."most vietnamese own nail shop business", you need to travel a little bit my friend. All of us tried to be honest and report all of own income, can't say the vietnamese aren't honest...that's racist to me. Further more, the vietnamese tradition is about the great emphasis on education since our great ancestors. "Japanese and Chinese emphasize more"...what are you talking about? read a book! Another one of your dumba$$ comment is "most vietnamese careless about ivy league schools", go and search to see for yourself how many viets are at harvard and other ivy league schools." Do some research (and please do cut and paste, it's better than none), before you put something so ignorant up!

I apologize for coming off as offensive to you. I do not want to pick a fight with you for these forums allow us free expresssion. I only comment when i feel compelled to. You may call me ignorant and I accept because all of us have alot of learning to do. I did mention that there are exceptions to everything. I can also garuntee you there are factors more chinese people that go to ivy leagues school than vietnamese people. I only wanted to point out that there are many other factors that play into how stats are recorded and we must not label. Thankyou for the advice and I will continue to read plenty of books on my vietnamese culture along with other complex asian cultures and will continue stick to my opinion because i felt strongly enough to write about it in my senior honors research paper. If you feel you must comment to me in an offensive manner again you can continue to dominate in this discussion about the asian american culture by yourself.

 

[dancedancekj]

An idiot is an idiot, no matter his race or ethnicity.
Any immigrant from any country should be *technically* be able to do decent in this country, given good luck.
While it is a historical fact that Chinese dynasties placed heavy emphasis upon education as a means of climbing the social ladder (and thus influencing Korea and Japan, as well as other surrounding countries) it doesn't mean that every Asian kid you're going to meet is going to be smart, or even successful.
(I'm not sure, but I think the same cultural phenomenon was going on in India as well... I might be wrong though. It's been a couple years since Asian history 😀)

My impression is that the privileged immigrate to the U.S. and stay that way. The poor and the illiterate immigrate to the U.S. and for the most part, stay that way too. It's might only be when you start getting into subsequent generations that the playing field might start to even out a little bit more.

 

[samsoonee]

An idiot is an idiot, no matter his race or ethnicity.
Any immigrant from any country should be *technically* be able to do decent in this country, given good luck.
While it is a historical fact that Chinese dynasties placed heavy emphasis upon education as a means of climbing the social ladder (and thus influencing Korea and Japan, as well as other surrounding countries) it doesn't mean that every Asian kid you're going to meet is going to be smart, or even successful.
(I'm not sure, but I think the same cultural phenomenon was going on in India as well... I might be wrong though. It's been a couple years since Asian history 😀)

My impression is that the privileged immigrate to the U.S. and stay that way. The poor and the illiterate immigrate to the U.S. and for the most part, stay that way too. It's might only be when you start getting into subsequent generations that the playing field might start to even out a little bit more.

I agree.
Also, race will always be a sensitive topic, and there will never be a "definite" answer to all of this. So no matter what you say, there probably will be someone that will argue against you.