Is there stigmas among the DO degree in the workplace..?

[aimhigh1199]

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Hi all I am just wondering.. As someone that is contemplating entering into DO school, I have questions about whether some people look down upon the DO degree. I certainly think the Osteopathic philosophy is great but again there are some people that do not know what the degree is.

Is it common for patients and other Health care professionals to not know what the DO degree is? Just curious.

 

[LuluLovesMe]

 

[DoctorSynthesis]

Hi all I am just wondering.. As someone that is contemplating entering into DO school, I have questions about whether some people look down upon the DO degree. I certainly think the Osteopathic philosophy is great but again there are some people that do not know what the degree is.

Is it common for patients and other Health care professionals to not know what the DO degree is? Just curious.

No

 

[Imnotfromjersey]

No, the stimga is there when you're applying for residency programs like ENT, derm, ophtho, plastics because they have 50 other applicants as qualified as you from Harvard.

At the attending level you're good unless you want to join a plastics/derm practice in Beverly hills or a lecturer position at somewhere like Harvard, Yale, Columbia.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

Fella, people have been answering variations of this same type of question from you for a good solid week now. Just add "studentdoc" to the end of anything that you google, you will find the answers.

For instance google "look down on DO degree studentdoc" and you can find many links to good threads where these discussions have taken place.

Take a breather, if you end up having to become a DO because of grades or whatever, everything is going to be ok. You will still be able to be a very satisfied physician.

 

[TexasSurgeon]

 

[deleted407021]

Nein!

 

[GypsyHummus]

Workplace, no.

In fact, there might be a bias to the DO degree in the workplace. Every patient who has had the DO when they schedule an appointment in the clinic because he "does that back cracking thing and it feels really good".

"Osteopathic Philosophy" is not really an accurate statement in this day and age as it used to be 60+ years ago. OMT and a push into primary care is really the only difference btw DOs and MDs nowadays, and once you get to the workplace after residency, nobody cares.

 

[cabinbuilder]

Hi all I am just wondering.. As someone that is contemplating entering into DO school, I have questions about whether some people look down upon the DO degree. I certainly think the Osteopathic philosophy is great but again there are some people that do not know what the degree is.

Is it common for patients and other Health care professionals to not know what the DO degree is? Just curious.

Most of the public doesn't know. Many do. I have never had issues from peers in the workplace.

 

[Mad Jack]

No, the stimga is there when you're applying for residency programs like ENT, derm, ophtho, plastics because they have 50 other applicants as qualified as you from Harvard.

At the attending level you're good unless you want to join a plastics/derm practice in Beverly hills or a lecturer position at somewhere like Harvard, Yale, Columbia.

You could even land a spot as an academic attending at H/Y/C if you really put your mind to it. I knew one at one of the aforementioned places.

 

[ananasmed]

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

you crack me up @ananasmed

 

[aimhigh1199]

lol ur funny.

 

[Mad Jack]

But the thread hasn't even gotten horrible yet. It's entirely too early to stop posting.

 

[ananasmed]

But the thread hasn't even gotten horrible yet. It's entirely too early to stop posting.

Okay okay, maybe not *this* thread, but OP has started enough neurotic threads for now, I think. I'm not cut out for this crazy #forumlife

 

[RLU1223]

 

[costales]

No. Keep going.

 

[JoBreeze]

No

What do you mean "no?"

Tons of patients and healthcare professionals don't know about the DO degree.

 

[costales]

What do you mean "no?"

Tons of patients and healthcare professionals don't know about the DO degree.

What healthcare professionals? Cosmetologists?

 

[Goro]

Only among elderly MDs, and ignorant pre-meds.

Hi all I am just wondering.. As someone that is contemplating entering into DO school, I have questions about whether some people look down upon the DO degree. I certainly think the Osteopathic philosophy is great but again there are some people that do not know what the degree is.

Is it common for patients and other Health care professionals to not know what the DO degree is? Just curious.

 

[meliora27]

Only among elderly MDs, and ignorant pre-meds.

Add some residency program directors who don't accept DO's to this list

 

[meliora27]

Add some residency program directors who don't accept DO's to this list

I really wish AACOM or some other body would write to the PD's that do not accept DO's to identify what about DO education is so lacking that their graduates need not apply to certain programs. I think that this is a major failure of the COM's to do everything in their power to put their applicants in the most competitive position possible. Even with high USMLE scores, research, honors on clinical rotations, publications, those two letters D-O still serve as a hinderance at certain places.

 

[gyngyn]

I really wish AACOM or some other body would write to the PD's that do not accept DO's to identify what about DO education is so lacking that their graduates need not apply to certain programs. I think that this is a major failure of the COM's to do everything in their power to put their applicants in the most competitive position possible. Even with high USMLE scores, research, honors on clinical rotations, publications, those two letters D-O still serve as a hinderance at certain places.

I understand your feelings, but you have to remember that MD applicants have no shot whatsoever at those juicy surgical subs that only accept DO applicants (or any of the other fine residencies you have!).

In time this will resolve, but your leadership has absolutely no influence on MD PD's. Leaders may be blamed for many things but lack of intervention with specific MD programs is not among them.

 

[JoBreeze]

What healthcare professionals? Cosmetologists?

"Is it common for patients and other Health care professionals to not know what the DO degree is? Just curious."

The answer to this questions is that it is not uncommon for patients and other health care professionals (with the exception of physicians) to not know about the DO degree.

 

[DoctorSynthesis]

What do you mean "no?"

Tons of patients and healthcare professionals don't know about the DO degree.

How can you have a stigma about something you don't know about

 

[hallowmann]

I understand your feelings, but you have to remember that MD applicants have no shot whatsoever at those juicy surgical subs that only accept DO applicants (or any of the other fine residencies you have!).

In time this will resolve, but your leadership has absolutely no influence on MD PD's. Leaders may be blamed for many things but lack of intervention with specific MD programs is not among them.

To be fair, if things go as planned in the merger by 2020 this should not be an issue/talking point.

 

[JoBreeze]

Welcome to the world. People are stupid.

 

[keevwu]

With the merger, can't it be safe to say that the ACGME residencies that used to only interview/consider MD students would still only interview/consider MD students even though now they have to look at DO applications? What power is going to regulate whether or not the committees consider DO apps?

 

[Seth Joo]

To be fair, if things go as planned in the merger by 2020 this should not be an issue/talking point.

Nothing ever goes as planned in life, nothing.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

With the merger, can't it be safe to say that the ACGME residencies that used to only interview/consider MD students would still only interview/consider MD students even though now they have to look at DO applications? What power is going to regulate whether or not the committees consider DO apps?

There is no actual regulation set in place to assure that DO students will be on even levels. Those programs that have PDs that are heavily biased towards MDs will "accept" DO applications, as per the requirements set by the merger. But they will likely not actually review the DO students and thus will likely continue to heavily pull from the MD pile. So again, on paper, all programs will have to "consider" DO applications, as in receive DO applications. But there is not and should not be anything that requires that they bring in X number of DO applicants for interviews or for eventual matriculation into their residency.

Only the slow creep of time will force any program to reach equality. Enough solid DO students graduate from enough solid DO schools, combined with the old guard retiring and eventually it will even out. Until that time, the merger technically does not change much on paper, although it is a nice step in the right direction towards some sort of unification.