Jacko's Tox

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My wife asked me why Jacko's tox results will take 4-6 weeks, knowing I was done with my forensics rotation with the coroner. I observed this prolonged interval was routine in normal death investigations, but I have no idea why. (We weren't allowed near the tox lab.) Is it just normal government work speed, work load, "no rush; the patient's outcome is already known," or what? Even mass spec does not take four weeks.
 
Yes I thought this was strange as well. And it was strange how the coroner said something to the effect that, "This case will not be given special treatment and will be treated like any normal person's case would and may take up to 4 weeks to get results back." Ludicrous!!!!

Even in Anna Nicole Smith's death they had the toxicology results pretty early on.

Perhaps it is because California is now bankrupt??? :meanie:
 
I suspect it's government related. Our ME autopsy toxes seem to take weeks too. I'm not exactly sure why. Some of it is due to chain of custody issues, I suspect.
 
My wife asked me why Jacko's tox results will take 4-6 weeks, knowing I was done with my forensics rotation with the coroner. I observed this prolonged interval was routine in normal death investigations, but I have no idea why. (We weren't allowed near the tox lab.) Is it just normal government work speed, work load, "no rush; the patient's outcome is already known," or what? Even mass spec does not take four weeks.

Usually it's because there are 600,000,000 samples queued up ahead of the one in question. Giving it the celebrity special treatment might lead to cries of favoritism.
 
Volume is the largest part of it, but also tissue toxicology requires extra extractions and of course verification of the results also adds to the time.
 
its a little bit of all your answers, i think...

yes, there is a huge backlog of cases in some offices. One office I rotated at the backlog was MONTHS, another office the backlog is 30 days. interesting, because both are in very large cities, so the caseload is roughly equivalent. also interesting, because the office that was backed up for months appears flush with money, where as the office with the shorter backlog is vastly underfunded. not sure what's going on there.

also, depending on the methodology that is being used and what substances are being looked for, extra extractions and manipulation of the sample may be required. remember not all cases have a nice venous blood sample/urine sample with which to screen. in the less "fresh kills", tissue samples might be all you've got. also, i would think the interpretation of the results takes a lot more time than live patients. you may need to look at levels in multiple sample sources and take into account the levels, any effect that post-mortem interval may have had on the level, and any underlying natural disease that could have rendered the individual more susceptible to that drug. it's not as simple as it is in the ER when you get a +UDS for cocaine...

ALSO, if you are looking for something and the mass spec of that compound isn't in your library... you're not going to find it and you may have to find some of the compound and run it first. but this is probably not an issue with most drugs.

i know in NYC they rushed out Heath Ledger's tox in a week or so. definately possible to get complete results in that time frame. not sure what the real "backlog" is in that office (ask me again in July 2010😀) but i'm sure its longer than that. I guess different offices have different policies on the VIP cases re: jumping their tox to the head of the line
 
In Michael Jackson's case alot is going to dictated by the continuing revelations of drug abuse by the victim and the threats of abusive medicine by the patient's attending physician...the recent allegations of Deprivan use will mean a very detailed tox screen beyond the usual done by the usual ME screen...
of course even now the ME offices are running scared due to the Elvis allegations in the past...and the recent affairs of ANS and HL
 
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Related to this, I'm suprised that Seratonin Syndrome hasn't been considered as a possible cause of death. He was taking Meperidine and an SSRI.

BREAKING NEWS: PROPOFOL IDENTIFIED AS DRUG LIKELY RESPONSIBLE FOR MICHAEL JACKSON"S DEATH (source: AP)
 
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